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Sofia Ramirez

Can I quit my job and collect unemployment benefits through Washington ESD?

I'm thinking about quitting my retail job because my manager has been making my life miserable and I'm wondering if I can still get unemployment benefits from Washington ESD. I know usually you have to be fired to get UI but I've heard there might be exceptions? My workplace has become really toxic and I'm not sure I can handle it much longer. Does anyone know if there are situations where you can quit and still qualify for unemployment in Washington state?

Generally speaking, if you quit your job voluntarily, you won't qualify for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. However, there are some exceptions called 'good cause' reasons where you might still be eligible. These include things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, discrimination, or significant changes to your job duties or pay. You'd need to document everything and be prepared to prove your case during the adjudication process.

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What kind of documentation would I need? I don't have anything written down but there have been witnesses to some of the incidents.

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Start documenting everything now - dates, times, witnesses, what was said or done. Email complaints to HR if you have an HR department. Save any written communications. The more evidence you have, the stronger your case will be if Washington ESD reviews your claim.

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I quit my job last year due to harassment and was able to get unemployment after going through adjudication. It took about 6 weeks for them to make a decision but I eventually got approved. The key is having solid evidence of why you had to quit.

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That's encouraging! Did you have to appeal the initial decision or did they approve you right away?

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They initially denied my claim but I appealed and won. The appeal hearing was nerve-wracking but having documentation helped a lot.

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The Washington ESD website has a list of what they consider 'good cause' for quitting. It's pretty specific - things like domestic violence, unsafe working conditions, harassment, or if your employer significantly changed your job. Just being unhappy with your boss usually isn't enough unfortunately.

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Where on the website can I find this list? I want to see if my situation might qualify.

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Look under the 'Eligibility' section on the Washington ESD website. There's a whole page about voluntary quit situations and what might still qualify you for benefits.

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honestly the system is so messed up, they'll probably deny you even if you have a good reason. I've seen people with legitimate cases get rejected and have to fight for months to get their benefits.

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While the process can be challenging, many people do successfully get benefits after quitting for good cause. It's worth applying if you truly have a valid reason.

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I agree the system can be frustrating but don't let that discourage you from applying if you have a legitimate case.

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What if I tried to get fired instead? Like if I just stopped showing up or did something to make them fire me? Would that work better for getting unemployment?

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That's called 'misconduct' and would definitely disqualify you from benefits. Washington ESD investigates why you were fired and if it was due to misconduct, you won't get UI. Don't go that route.

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Oh wow, okay good to know. I definitely don't want to mess up my chances of getting benefits if I really need them.

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Have you considered talking to a labor attorney? If you're dealing with workplace harassment or discrimination, you might have other legal options beyond just unemployment benefits. Some attorneys do free consultations.

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I hadn't thought about that. Would talking to a lawyer help with the unemployment claim too?

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Possibly. They could help you understand your rights and document your case properly, which would strengthen any unemployment claim you file.

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I'm in a similar situation with my boss being awful. Following this thread to see what options there are. This job market is tough right now so I'm scared to quit without knowing I can get some benefits.

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Exactly! I can't afford to be without income but I also can't keep dealing with this workplace situation.

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Start documenting everything now even if you're not sure you'll quit. Having that record will help if you do decide to leave.

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The burden of proof is on you to show you had good cause to quit. Washington ESD will investigate your claim and may contact your former employer to get their side of the story. Make sure you have solid evidence before you make any decisions.

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That's a good point about them contacting the employer. I need to be prepared for that possibility.

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Yes, and remember that your employer might dispute your claim, so having documentation is crucial.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm already tight on money.

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It's worth it if you need to actually reach someone. Way better than spending hours on hold or getting hung up on constantly.

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Have you tried talking to HR about the harassment issues? Sometimes they can resolve things internally and you wouldn't have to quit. Though I know not all companies have good HR departments.

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We don't really have HR at my job. It's a smaller company and the owner basically handles everything.

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That makes it harder. In that case, documenting everything becomes even more important if you do decide to quit and apply for benefits.

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The adjudication process for voluntary quit cases can take a really long time. I've heard of people waiting 8-12 weeks for a decision. Just something to keep in mind if you're relying on that income.

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Wow, that's a long time to wait. I guess I need to make sure I have some savings if I go this route.

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Yeah and if they deny you initially, the appeal process takes even longer. Plan accordingly.

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What kind of harassment are you dealing with? Some types are definitely considered good cause for quitting while others might not meet the threshold. The specifics really matter for these cases.

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It's mostly verbal - yelling, belittling comments, unreasonable demands. Nothing physical but it's affecting my mental health.

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Document specific incidents with dates and details. If it's creating a hostile work environment, that could potentially qualify as good cause, but you'll need evidence.

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I quit my job for good cause last year and got benefits, but I had to go through an appeal. The initial decision was a denial but I had good documentation and witnesses. It took about 3 months total but I eventually got all my back pay too.

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That's encouraging that you got the back pay. Did you have to pay for a lawyer for the appeal?

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No, I represented myself. The hearing was over the phone and I just presented my evidence and told my story. Having everything documented made the difference.

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Before you quit, have you considered looking for another job first? It might be easier to transition directly to new employment rather than dealing with the uncertainty of unemployment benefits.

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I've been looking but haven't found anything yet. The situation at work is getting worse and I'm not sure I can wait much longer.

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I understand that pressure. Just make sure you're prepared for the possibility that your unemployment claim might be denied initially.

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The Washington ESD good cause standards are pretty strict. You really need to show that a reasonable person in your situation would have quit. It's not just about whether you were unhappy - it has to be something that made continuing to work unreasonable.

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That's a good way to think about it. I need to evaluate whether my situation would seem unreasonable to someone else looking at it objectively.

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Exactly. And remember that Washington ESD will look at whether you tried to resolve the issues before quitting. Did you complain to management or try to address the problems?

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