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Quit my job can I get unemployment benefits through Washington ESD?

So I quit my retail job last month because my manager was creating a hostile work environment and I couldn't take it anymore. Now I'm wondering if I can still file for unemployment benefits with Washington ESD? I know usually you have to be laid off but I've heard there might be exceptions for quitting with good cause. Has anyone been in a similar situation? I really need the income while I look for something new.

You might be able to get benefits if you can prove you had 'good cause' for quitting. Washington ESD considers things like unsafe working conditions, harassment, or significant changes to your job duties as potential good cause. You'll need to document everything though - emails, witness statements, anything that shows the hostile work environment.

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I did save some text messages from my manager that were pretty unprofessional. Would those help my case?

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Absolutely! Those text messages could be crucial evidence. Make sure to include them when you file your claim.

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ugh i went through this same thing last year. the adjudication process took FOREVER and they kept asking for more documentation. be prepared to wait like 6-8 weeks for a decision

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6-8 weeks?? That's crazy long. Did you eventually get approved?

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yeah but it was such a hassle, had to appeal the initial denial too

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I was in a similar boat with a toxic boss situation. Tried calling Washington ESD for weeks to get clarity on my case but could never get through. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me reach an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Made all the difference in getting my questions answered about the good cause requirements.

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Never heard of that service before. Is it legit or just another scam?

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It's legit - they basically help you get through the phone queue to talk to Washington ESD directly. Saved me hours of calling and getting disconnected.

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How much does something like that cost though? I'm already broke from quitting my job

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The key thing to understand is that Washington ESD will investigate your reason for quitting thoroughly. They'll likely contact your former employer to get their side of the story. Make sure you have solid documentation of the hostile work environment - performance reviews, emails, witness statements from coworkers if possible. The burden of proof is on you to show you had no reasonable alternative but to quit.

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What if my former employer lies about what happened? I'm worried they'll make me look bad.

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That's why documentation is so important. If you have written evidence of the hostile behavior, it's much harder for them to contradict. Also, Washington ESD adjudicators are trained to spot inconsistencies in employer responses.

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Just be honest on your application but don't go into a huge rant about your boss. Stick to facts and keep it professional. I made the mistake of getting too emotional in my initial statement and it didn't help my case.

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Good advice, I was planning to write a novel about everything that happened lol

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Yeah don't do that! Keep it factual and to the point. Let your documentation tell the story.

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The Washington ESD website has a whole section about good cause for quitting. Look under the 'Eligibility' section - it lists specific examples of what they consider valid reasons. Harassment definitely falls under that category.

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Thanks, I'll check that out. Do you remember what other reasons they list?

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Things like unsafe working conditions, discrimination, significant reduction in hours or pay, stuff like that. Pretty comprehensive list actually.

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whatever you do, file your claim ASAP. there's a time limit on how long you can wait after quitting before you're not eligible anymore. i think it's like 4 weeks or something

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Actually, there's no specific time limit for filing after quitting with good cause, but you definitely want to file as soon as possible to avoid any issues.

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oh ok maybe im thinking of something else. either way dont wait!

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I'm dealing with Washington ESD right now for a different issue and their phone system is absolutely terrible. Spent 3 hours on hold yesterday just to get disconnected. How do people actually get through to talk to someone?

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That's exactly why I mentioned Claimyr earlier - they handle all the calling and waiting for you. Game changer for dealing with Washington ESD's terrible phone system.

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I might have to look into that. This is driving me crazy.

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Quick question - do you need to be actively looking for work while your quit-with-good-cause claim is being reviewed? Or can you wait until it's approved?

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You should start your job search immediately and keep a log of your activities. Washington ESD requires active job searching even during the adjudication process for voluntary quit cases.

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Ugh, that's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the info though.

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One more tip - if you get denied initially, don't give up. A lot of good cause cases get approved on appeal even if they're denied the first time. The appeals process gives you a chance to present your case more thoroughly.

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How long does the appeals process take? Is it faster than the initial decision?

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Appeals can take anywhere from 2-4 weeks for a phone hearing to be scheduled, then you get a decision within a week or two after that. So still not super fast but worth it if you have a strong case.

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Just want to add that if you do get approved, your benefits will be backdated to when you first filed your claim. So even though the process takes forever, you won't lose out on that money.

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That's good to know! I was worried about missing out on weeks of benefits while waiting for a decision.

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Make sure you understand the difference between 'good cause' and 'compelling family reasons' too. They're separate categories and the requirements are different. Good cause is more about work-related issues like what you described.

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What's compelling family reasons for?

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Things like domestic violence, caring for a sick family member, or having to relocate for your spouse's job. Different criteria than workplace issues.

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This whole thread is making me realize how complicated unemployment can be. I always thought it was just for people who got laid off!

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Yeah, the system is definitely more complex than most people realize. There are lots of different scenarios that can qualify you for benefits.

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op - whatever happens, dont let your old boss intimidate you during the investigation process. they might try to contact you directly or have hr call you. you dont have to talk to them, everything should go through washington esd

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Good point, I hadn't thought about that. My old manager is definitely the type to try something like that.

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Just following up on the Claimyr thing since people were asking - I'm not affiliated with them or anything, just found them super helpful when I was dealing with my own Washington ESD issues. The fact that you can actually talk to a real person at the agency makes such a difference in understanding your options.

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Did they help you with a quit-with-good-cause situation too?

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Mine was actually a different issue, but the agent I talked to was really knowledgeable about all the different eligibility scenarios. Worth checking out if you're stuck.

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Thanks everyone for all the advice! I'm definitely going to file my claim this week and gather all my documentation. Feeling more confident about my chances now.

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Good luck! Remember to stay organized with your documentation and be patient with the process.

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Keep us posted on how it goes! Your situation might help others in similar spots.

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One last thing - if you do get approved, make sure you understand the work search requirements. They've changed a bit over the years and you need to log 3 job search activities per week minimum.

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What counts as a job search activity?

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Applying for jobs, networking events, job fairs, even informational interviews. There's a list on the Washington ESD website with all the acceptable activities.

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Final thought - keep detailed records of everything throughout this process. Dates, times, who you talked to, what documents you submitted. If you end up needing to appeal or if there are any issues later, having a paper trail is invaluable.

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Great advice, I'll start a folder for everything. Thanks again everyone!

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This thread has been super helpful. I'm in a similar situation and was too scared to even try filing. Now I think I might have a chance.

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Don't let fear stop you from trying! The worst they can say is no, and you might be surprised by the outcome.

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Agree with that. Even if you're not sure, it's worth filing and seeing what happens. You can always appeal if needed.

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Hope this works out for you OP. Toxic work environments are no joke and it takes courage to walk away. You deserve to be treated with respect at work.

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Thank you, that really means a lot. It was a hard decision but I know it was the right one.

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