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Thank you all for this incredibly helpful information! I've decided to schedule an appointment with SSA to go through my specific numbers before making a decision. Based on your advice, I'll ask about: 1. The exact amount I'd receive at 62 vs. FRA for both my retirement and spousal benefits 2. How the deemed filing would work in my case 3. The long-term impact of taking reduced benefits now vs. waiting It sounds like there's no way to just take spousal and let my own grow (which is what I was hoping for), but I need to understand the exact numbers before deciding. I'll try that Claimyr service to avoid the phone wait nightmare!
That's a great approach! One more thing to consider - when you get those numbers from SSA, ask about your survivor benefits too. If your husband predeceases you, you'd be eligible for survivor benefits, which work differently than spousal benefits. Understanding this now can help with your overall planning.
Great discussion here! I'm in a similar situation (husband on SSDI, me approaching 62) and wanted to add a few things I learned from my research: 1. You might also want to ask SSA about the "breakeven point" - the age where waiting until FRA would result in more total lifetime benefits than claiming at 62. This usually falls somewhere in your early 80s. 2. Don't forget about Medicare eligibility at 65! If you're not working and don't have other health insurance, you'll need to factor in those costs when deciding whether to claim benefits early. 3. Also consider your state's tax treatment of Social Security benefits - some states don't tax them at all, which could affect your decision. The appointment approach is smart. Make sure to bring your most recent Social Security statement and any documentation of your husband's SSDI payments. Good luck with your decision!
This is such valuable additional information, thank you! I hadn't even thought about the Medicare angle at 65 - that's definitely something I need to factor into the financial calculations. And you're absolutely right about state taxes on Social Security benefits. I'm in a state that does tax them, so that reduction in take-home amount is another piece of the puzzle. The breakeven analysis sounds really helpful too - I'll make sure to ask SSA about that specific calculation when I meet with them. It's amazing how many variables go into what seems like a simple decision!
Just wanted to add that if you're married filing jointly, make sure you include BOTH spouses' Social Security benefits when calculating the taxable amount. I made this mistake my first year - I only included my benefits but forgot about my spouse's, which threw off the whole calculation. The IRS worksheet accounts for combined benefits from both spouses, so you'll need both SSA-1099 forms if you're both receiving benefits.
This is such helpful information! I'm in a similar situation as the original poster - just started receiving Social Security benefits and wasn't sure about the tax implications. Reading through all these responses really clarifies things. The key points I'm taking away are: 1) Look for Form SSA-1099 (not W-2), 2) Download it from mySocialSecurity account if you didn't receive it by mail, 3) Only a portion may be taxable depending on your total income, and 4) Use the IRS worksheet or tax software to calculate the exact taxable amount. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this community is so helpful for navigating these government services!
Based on my experience helping my elderly neighbor through this same process last year, I wanted to share a few practical tips that might help you: First, yes - the SSA should automatically calculate and add your spousal benefit top-up when your husband files at his FRA. You don't need to submit a separate application. However, the key word is "should" - as others have mentioned, there can be delays or oversights. Since you filed at 62, your spousal benefit will be reduced to approximately 32.5% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). With his estimated $3,200 benefit, his PIA is likely around that same amount, so your reduced spousal benefit would be roughly $1,040. Since you're currently getting $1,425, you may not qualify for any additional spousal top-up, or it might be a very small amount. Here's what I'd recommend: Before your husband files, visit your local SSA office together and ask them to run the calculation. They can tell you exactly what to expect so there are no surprises. This way you'll know upfront if you'll get any increase and approximately how much. Also, make sure both of you have MySocialSecurity accounts set up online so you can monitor the changes in real-time once he files. The transparency really helps reduce anxiety about whether the system is working properly! Hope this helps with your planning!
This is really helpful analysis, thank you! Your math about the spousal benefit calculation is eye-opening - I hadn't realized that with my current benefit at $1,425, I might not get much (or any) additional spousal amount. I was definitely expecting more based on what friends had told me. The suggestion to visit the SSA office together before my husband files is excellent. Getting the exact calculation ahead of time would save us from any false expectations and help with our financial planning. I'm definitely going to set up that MySocialSecurity account too so I can track everything. It's a bit disappointing to learn that the increase might be minimal, but at least now I understand how the system actually works rather than hoping for something unrealistic. Thanks for taking the time to break down the numbers!
I've been working as a benefits counselor for over 15 years and want to address some confusion I'm seeing in this thread. When your husband files at his FRA, the SSA will automatically review your case for spousal benefits - no separate application needed. However, given your current benefit of $1,425 and your husband's estimated $3,200, you may receive little to no spousal top-up. Here's why: You filed at 62, so your spousal benefit is permanently reduced to about 32.5% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount. If his PIA is around $3,200, your maximum spousal benefit would be approximately $1,040 (32.5% of $3,200). Since you're already receiving $1,425 on your own record, which is higher than $1,040, you likely won't qualify for any spousal top-up at all. This is a common misconception - many people think the spousal benefit is "in addition to" your own benefit, but it's actually the higher of the two amounts. The system pays your own benefit first, then only adds spousal benefits if that amount would be higher. I'd strongly recommend visiting your local SSA office with your husband before he files to get the exact calculation. This will prevent any disappointment and help with your financial planning. The representatives can pull up both records and give you precise numbers.
Thank you for this professional insight! This is exactly the kind of clarification I needed. I was definitely operating under the misconception that spousal benefits would be added on top of my own benefit rather than being the higher of the two amounts. Your calculation showing that my reduced spousal benefit would only be about $1,040 versus my current $1,425 really puts things in perspective. I guess all those friends who told me I'd get a nice increase either had much lower personal benefits or didn't understand the system themselves. I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this clearly. It's disappointing to learn I likely won't see any increase, but it's much better to have realistic expectations going into this. We'll definitely visit the local SSA office as you suggested to get the official numbers before my husband files. One quick follow-up question - would there be any scenario where I might still get a small top-up, or based on these numbers would it definitely be zero additional benefit?
Thank you all for the incredible advice! To summarize what I've learned: 1. Yes, my wife can claim her own $1,000 benefit now, and later switch to the spousal benefit 2. Important correction: The spousal benefit will be 50% of my Primary Insurance Amount (my FRA benefit), not 50% of my age-70 increased amount 3. When the time comes, she'll need to file form SSA-2 to apply for the spousal benefit 4. We should consider potential IRMAA impacts on Medicare premiums This community has been amazing. I feel much more confident in our plan now, with realistic expectations about the benefit amounts!
You're so welcome! It's great to see someone taking the time to really understand their options before making these important decisions. One small thing I'd add - since you mentioned you're still working until 70, just double-check if the earnings test might affect your wife's spousal benefit once she switches over. It shouldn't since she'll be past her FRA, but it's always good to confirm with SSA that your continued earnings won't impact her payments. Best of luck with your strategy!
Great summary of your learnings! Just wanted to add one more consideration since you mentioned you're still working until 70 - make sure to check if your continued employment might affect any timing considerations. While the earnings test shouldn't impact your wife's benefits since she's past FRA, it's worth confirming that your work income won't create any complications when you do file at 70. Also, since you're planning this strategy 2+ years out, keep an eye on any potential policy changes (though major changes to Social Security typically have long phase-in periods). You've got a solid plan - just stay informed as you get closer to execution!
This is such a helpful thread! As someone new to navigating Social Security benefits, I really appreciate how everyone broke down the strategy and corrected misconceptions along the way. The clarification about spousal benefits being based on PIA rather than the delayed retirement credits was especially eye-opening. I'm bookmarking this discussion for when my spouse and I need to make similar decisions in a few years. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise!
Gianna Scott
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation where my wife is considering delaying her benefits to maximize delayed retirement credits. After reading all these responses, I now understand that I should file for spousal benefits as soon as she files (even if she suspends her payments to continue earning credits), since my spousal benefit won't increase beyond the 50% of her FRA amount regardless. One question I haven't seen addressed - when filing for spousal benefits, does the SSA automatically compare your own retirement benefit to the spousal benefit and give you whichever is higher? Or do you need to specifically request that comparison? I want to make sure I don't accidentally leave money on the table by not asking for the right thing during my appointment. Also, thanks to everyone who mentioned Claimyr - I've been dreading trying to get through to SSA but that sounds like it could save a lot of headaches!
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Giovanni Colombo
•SSA will automatically compare your own retirement benefit to the spousal benefit and pay you whichever combination gives you the higher total amount. You don't need to specifically request this comparison - it's built into their system. If your own benefit is higher than 50% of your wife's PIA, you'll just get your own benefit. If the spousal benefit would be higher, they'll pay your own benefit first, then add the "excess spousal benefit" to bring you up to that 50% level. So you don't have to worry about asking for the "right thing" - just apply for benefits and they'll calculate what gives you the most money automatically!
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Landon Flounder
This has been such an informative discussion! I'm dealing with a very similar situation and had the same confusion about delayed retirement credits and spousal benefits. It's really helpful to see it confirmed multiple times that spousal benefits are capped at 50% of the PIA at FRA, regardless of any delayed credits the worker earns. One thing I wanted to add that might be useful - when you have your appointment in March, make sure to ask about the "deemed filing" rules. Since your husband is past his FRA, he should be able to file just for spousal benefits without being forced to also file for his own retirement benefit (if his own benefit is lower). This gives you more flexibility in your claiming strategy. Also, I second what others have said about bringing documentation to your appointment. In addition to the marriage certificate, having recent earnings statements or tax returns can help if there are any questions about work history or current employment status. Good luck with your appointment! It sounds like you're making smart decisions by maximizing those delayed retirement credits while getting the spousal benefits started.
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