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I work as a disability advocate and deal with SSA systems regularly. What you experienced is unfortunately common - there's a huge inconsistency in training among SSA representatives. The rep who told you it was "impossible" was completely wrong. Here's exactly what you need to do: 1. Log into your my Social Security account at ssa.gov 2. Look for "Replacement Documents" on your main dashboard 3. Click "Get Your 1099/1042S" 4. Your SSA-1099 should be available for download as a PDF For your daughter, since you mentioned she receives benefits on your record, you should see a section called "Benefits I help manage" or similar wording if your Representative Payee status is properly set up in their system. If you don't see this section, you'll need to contact SSA to update your payee status in their computer system. Pro tip: Once you access the forms online, you can also set up text/email notifications for when new documents are available, which eliminates the mail delivery issue entirely. The identity theft concerns you mentioned are very real - I've helped several clients deal with stolen SSA documents.

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Thank you so much for the detailed instructions! As someone who works with SSA systems professionally, your explanation gives me a lot more confidence. I'm going to follow these exact steps right now. It's really frustrating that there's such inconsistent training - after waiting over 4 hours on hold, the last thing you expect is completely incorrect information. I'll definitely look into setting up those notifications too once I get access working. Really appreciate the help!

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I'm going through this exact same situation right now! My mail gets delivered to the wrong address at least once a month, and I'm terrified about my SSN being on documents just sitting in someone else's mailbox. Reading through these comments, it sounds like multiple people have confirmed you CAN get the 1099 online through the MySocialSecurity portal. That SSA rep definitely gave you wrong information - probably just didn't want to take the time to help you properly after you waited 4+ hours! I'm creating my online account today so I can avoid the mail issue next year. Thanks for posting this question because I had no idea this was even an option. The fact that they're still mailing out documents with full SSNs visible in 2025 is crazy when identity theft is such a huge problem. Hope you get it sorted out! Let us know if the online method works for both you and your daughter's forms.

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You're absolutely right about how crazy it is that they're still mailing documents with full SSNs visible! I'm definitely going to update this thread once I try accessing both forms online. Based on all the helpful responses here, it sounds like the online method should work for my form at least, and hopefully for my daughter's too if my Representative Payee status is set up correctly in their system. It's really frustrating that we had to learn about this option from the community instead of from the actual SSA representative who kept us waiting for hours. Thanks for sharing your similar experience - it's oddly comforting to know I'm not the only one dealing with mail delivery issues and SSA misinformation!

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One thing no one mentioned - if you're just starting on Social Security, make sure you understand that the payment schedule is based on your birth date. For people born on the 1st-10th of the month, payments come on the second Wednesday. For 11th-20th, it's the third Wednesday, and for 21st-31st, it's the fourth Wednesday. This doesn't change your tax situation, but it helps you know exactly when to expect your deposits going forward.

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Except if u started getting SS before May 1997! Those of us old-timers get paid on the 3rd of each month no matter what day we were born. The birth date schedule is only for newer recipients.

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For anyone still confused about this timing issue, I found the IRS Publication 915 really helpful when I went through this last year. It explains Social Security taxation in detail. The key thing to remember is that you'll get that SSA-1099 form by January 31st, and it will show exactly what you received in 2024 - no guessing needed! Also, if you use tax software like TurboTax or H&R Block, they have specific sections for Social Security benefits that walk you through the calculations. They'll ask for the amount from your SSA-1099 and calculate the taxable portion automatically based on your other income. Makes the whole process much less stressful than trying to figure out those thresholds manually.

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This is really helpful advice! I was just thinking about how overwhelming all these tax rules sound, but you're right that the tax software probably makes it much simpler. I've never used tax software before (always did paper forms), but it sounds like it might be worth trying this year given all the new SS benefit calculations I'll need to figure out. Do you know if the basic versions of those programs handle Social Security taxation, or do you need to upgrade to premium versions?

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To directly answer your original question - yes, the maximum benefit for someone filing at FRA is increasing for 2025, and yes, this is separate from the COLA adjustment. The COLA applies to people already receiving benefits, while the maximum benefit calculation applies to new filers. However, this doesn't mean you'll get more than a 2.5% increase overall. Your benefit is calculated based on your own earnings history, not on what the maximum potential benefit is. The only way this affects you personally is through small adjustments to the PIA calculation formula that happens each year. For most people, these formula adjustments result in very small differences - we're talking about maybe $5-15 per month different than if you had filed with the exact same earnings history the previous year. Your claiming age and earnings history are FAR more important factors in determining your benefit amount.

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Thank you! This is exactly what I needed to know. Sounds like I should just proceed with my original plan to file when I reach my FRA in 2025, and not worry too much about these year-to-year formula changes.

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Just to add another perspective here - I work in benefits consulting and help people navigate SS claims regularly. The confusion around maximum benefits vs COLA is super common, but here's the key thing to remember: unless you've been a very high earner for most of your career, these year-to-year changes in the maximum benefit calculation won't meaningfully impact your actual benefit amount. What WILL impact your benefit significantly is making sure you have an accurate earnings record with SSA before you file. I always tell my clients to create a my.ssa.gov account and review their earnings history at least 6 months before filing. I've seen cases where missing or incorrect earnings records cost people hundreds of dollars per month in benefits. Also, don't stress too much about timing your application to the exact month - focus more on whether you want to claim at FRA, delay for delayed retirement credits, or claim early with reduced benefits. That decision will have a much bigger impact on your monthly payment than any formula adjustments.

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I'm in a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm 64 and still working, earning about $80k annually, while my husband just turned 65 and his SSDI converted to retirement benefits. Reading through all these responses, it seems like the key factors are: 1. Your own benefit amount vs. spousal benefit amount 2. Your current earnings level 3. Whether you plan to keep working past FRA Based on what everyone's shared, it sounds like for most people still working with decent salaries, waiting until FRA makes the most sense. The earnings test would just wipe out most benefits anyway, and if your own benefit is higher than spousal, there's really no advantage to filing early. Has anyone here actually tried using that my.ssa.gov benefit calculator to compare scenarios? I've looked at mine but find it confusing to figure out exactly what I'd get under different timing options.

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Welcome to the community! You've summarized the key points perfectly. I found the my.ssa.gov calculator pretty confusing at first too, but here's what helped me: focus on the "estimated monthly benefit" section and compare your projected benefit at FRA versus what 50% of your husband's benefit would be. The calculator also shows you what your reduced benefit would be if you filed early, but like everyone's mentioned, with your $80k salary, the earnings test would likely wipe out most payments anyway. One tip - you can also call SSA and ask them to mail you a more detailed benefit estimate that breaks down different scenarios, which some people find easier to understand than the online version. Given your situation mirrors the original poster's so closely, waiting until your FRA seems like the smart move!

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I'm new to this community but going through almost the exact same situation! I'm 65, still working full-time making about $68,000, and my husband's SSDI just converted to retirement benefits when he turned 65 last month. Reading through all these responses has been so enlightening - I had no idea about the "deemed filing" rule or how the earnings test actually works. I've been stressing about whether I should apply for something NOW, but it sounds like with my salary level, most benefits would just get withheld anyway. One question I haven't seen addressed - if I wait until my FRA to file, will there be any issues with the fact that my husband's benefits converted from SSDI to retirement? Does that timing affect my eligibility for spousal benefits at all, or is it just treated the same as if he had regular retirement benefits all along? Also, has anyone here actually received those calculation worksheets that were mentioned? I called SSA twice but couldn't get through, and I'm wondering if it's worth trying that Claimyr service that was suggested or if I should just be patient and keep trying the regular number. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - this has been more helpful than anything I found on the SSA website!

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I've been following this discussion as someone who went through a similar situation a few years ago. One thing I want to emphasize is the importance of getting everything in writing from SSA once you do speak with them. When I was navigating my ex-spouse benefits after my second divorce, I had three different SSA representatives give me conflicting information over the phone. I finally requested that all calculations and eligibility determinations be provided in writing, which helped tremendously when I had to clarify discrepancies later. Also, don't be surprised if the first person you speak with isn't familiar with complex divorce/remarriage scenarios. I had to ask to speak with a specialist who deals specifically with spousal and survivor benefits. The general representatives are knowledgeable, but these multi-marriage situations have so many nuances that it really helps to talk to someone who handles them regularly. One last tip - bring copies of ALL your marriage certificates and divorce decrees, even if you think they might not be relevant. I initially only brought paperwork from my qualifying marriage, but they ended up needing documentation from all my marriages to properly process my claim. Best of luck navigating this process! It's complicated but definitely worth getting right.

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This is such valuable advice, especially about getting everything in writing! I can definitely see how different representatives might interpret these complex rules differently, and having written documentation would prevent any confusion later. Your point about asking for a specialist is really important too. I was planning to just take whoever I could get on the phone, but it makes so much more sense to specifically request someone who deals with spousal benefits regularly. These situations are complicated enough without getting incomplete or incorrect information. I'll definitely make sure to bring documentation for both marriages when I go in. Better to have too much paperwork than not enough! Thank you for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who's actually been through this process successfully.

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I've been working in Social Security disability advocacy for over 15 years and wanted to add a few practical tips for when you do get your SSA appointment: 1. **Timing matters for your appointment** - Try to schedule for early morning when staff are fresh and have more time to review complex cases like yours. 2. **Bring a written summary** - Write out your marriage timeline (dates married/divorced for both husbands) and your key questions. This helps keep the appointment focused and ensures you don't forget anything important. 3. **Ask about "what if" scenarios** - Have them calculate benefits for different filing ages (62, 65, 67, 70) so you can see exactly how much waiting would be worth in dollars. 4. **Get your ex-husband's earnings estimate** - While they can't give you his exact earnings history, they can tell you approximately what your ex-spousal benefit would be based on his record. The remarriage rules are definitely tricky, but you're asking all the right questions. The fact that your first marriage lasted 29 years puts you in a strong position once your current divorce is finalized. Many people don't realize they can claim on a prior ex-spouse's record after a subsequent divorce ends. Good luck with everything! These decisions are never easy, but getting the right information upfront will help you make the best choice for your situation.

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