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Can Green Card holders apply for Social Security benefits after paying taxes for years?

Hi everyone, my father-in-law has been working in the US with a green card for almost 9 years now. He's 63 and thinking about retiring next year. He's paid Social Security taxes during all his working years here, but we're confused about whether he qualifies for retirement benefits since he's not a citizen. Does anyone know if green card holders can receive SS benefits? And if so, what's the application process like? He's worried about making mistakes that might affect his immigration status. Any advice would be really appreciated!

Just wanted to add something important that I learned when helping my neighbor with this - make sure your father-in-law gets a copy of his Social Security Statement before applying! You can access it online at ssa.gov/myaccount or request a paper copy. This will show his complete work history and estimated benefits, which helps verify everything is correct before he applies. Also, since he's been working for 9 years, he's probably very close to earning those 40 credits needed. You typically earn 4 credits per year if you make at least the minimum amount (around $6,500 in 2024), so he likely already qualifies or will very soon. One more tip: if he decides to delay retirement past his Full Retirement Age, his benefits will actually increase by about 8% per year until age 70. This could be worth considering if he's in good health and can continue working!

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As someone who works in immigration law, I can confirm everything mentioned here is accurate! Green card holders absolutely qualify for Social Security retirement benefits under the same rules as citizens - 40 credits (roughly 10 years of work). One additional consideration for your father-in-law: since he's been working for 9 years, I'd recommend he check his Social Security earnings record now to make sure all his wages have been properly credited. Sometimes there are discrepancies that need to be corrected, and it's much easier to fix these issues while he's still working. Also, regarding the international travel concerns mentioned earlier - if your father-in-law is from a country that has a totalization agreement with the US, he may be able to combine work credits from both countries to qualify for benefits. This could potentially help him reach the 40-credit threshold faster if needed. The key thing is that receiving Social Security benefits will NOT affect his immigration status or green card in any way - these are earned benefits he's paid into through payroll taxes.

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You can find the list of countries with totalization agreements at ssa.gov/international/totalization_agreements.html - there are currently 30 countries including the UK, Germany, Canada, South Korea, Japan, and several others. If his home country has an agreement, it could definitely help with qualifying for benefits or potentially receiving payments if he moves back there later. The SSA website has detailed info for each country about how the agreements work.

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You can find the list of countries with totalization agreements on the SSA website at ssa.gov/international/agreements_overview.html. Currently, the US has agreements with about 30 countries including Canada, Mexico, most of Europe, Japan, South Korea, and several others. These agreements can be really helpful - they prevent double taxation on social security and allow workers to combine credits from both countries to meet eligibility requirements. Even if his home country doesn't have an agreement, with 9 years of US work history he's likely very close to qualifying on his own!

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Social Security application processing delay - waiting since November with January start date

Filed my retirement application with Social Security back on November 1st and still haven't heard anything. The SSA website says processing typically takes around 30 days, but I'm going on 7 weeks now. I'll be turning 65 next month and was hoping to start receiving benefits in January. Getting a bit anxious as that date approaches fast! Has anyone else experienced longer-than-expected wait times recently? I'm trying to figure out if this is normal or if I should be calling them (which I've been avoiding because of the nightmare wait times I keep hearing about). Just wondering what others' experiences have been with application processing timelines.

Have you checked your my social security account online? sometimes they update the status there before sending anything in mail. also check your spam folder for emails they might have sent!

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I've been checking my online account almost daily - still just says "processing" with no other details. Good reminder about the spam folder though, I'll check that too!

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I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Filed my application in early November and still waiting. Reading through all these responses is actually really helpful - sounds like 6-8 weeks is pretty normal these days even though their website says 30 days. I was starting to panic that something went wrong with my application, but it seems like they're just really backed up. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences, it's reassuring to know I'm not alone in this waiting game!

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Can I collect both my own SSI and my deceased ex-husband's Social Security benefits?

I'm really confused about my options with Social Security. I'm 63 and currently receiving SSI benefits of about $914 per month due to my disability. My ex-husband passed away last month - we were married for 12 years and divorced 8 years ago. Someone told me I might be eligible for his Social Security benefits as his ex-spouse, but I'm not sure if I can collect both that AND keep my SSI? His benefits would probably be higher since he worked consistently, while I had many gaps in employment due to health issues. Do I have to choose between my SSI and his survivor benefits? Any help understanding this would be so appreciated!

I'm so sorry for your loss, and I can understand how overwhelming this must be. Just wanted to add one more important point that might help you - when you apply for survivor benefits, make sure to ask about "protective filing." This means SSA will hold your application date even if you don't have all the required documents yet. This is crucial because survivor benefits can be paid retroactively up to 6 months from your application date, not from when you have all your paperwork together. So even if it takes you a few weeks to gather everything like the death certificate, your benefit start date won't be delayed. Also, don't worry too much about the reduced benefit at 63 - you're still getting a significant amount, and the peace of mind from not having to deal with SSI reporting requirements will be worth it. Wishing you the best through this difficult process.

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I'm also navigating a similar situation and wanted to share something that might help. When I called SSA about survivor benefits, they told me I could actually apply online at ssa.gov for the initial application, which saved me from having to wait weeks for an in-person appointment. You still need to provide documents, but at least it gets your claim started in their system faster. They also mentioned that if you're currently receiving SSI, they'll automatically coordinate the transition between benefits so you don't have to worry about accidentally getting overpaid or having gaps in coverage. The online application walks you through exactly what documents you'll need to mail or bring to a follow-up appointment. Might be worth checking out while you're gathering your paperwork!

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That's really helpful about the online application option! I didn't know you could start the process that way. It would definitely be less stressful than trying to get through on the phone or waiting for an appointment. Do you remember if there were any specific requirements for applying online versus in person? Like do they require certain documents to be uploaded right away, or can you submit the basic information first and then follow up with the paperwork later?

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@44febf9ae148 When I applied online for survivor benefits last year, you can definitely submit the basic application first and then follow up with documents. The system lets you complete the initial form with just your personal information, your ex-spouse's details, and basic marriage/divorce info. Then they give you a confirmation number and tell you exactly which documents to mail in within 30 days. The nice thing is that your application date is protected from when you submit online, not when they receive all your paperwork. You don't have to upload anything immediately - they actually prefer you mail certified copies of documents rather than uploading them. Just make sure to keep that confirmation number safe!

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Confused by Medicare Part B double payment reimbursement and tax withholding - Social Security math not adding up

Just got the most confusing letter from Social Security about my Medicare Part B reimbursement and I can't make sense of their math. I received a small check for $162.80 on January 27th (which was unexpected), and today I got a letter explaining it's for the "Double Payment for Medicare Part B" but I'm still confused. The letter states: 1. I'll receive $162.80 around Feb 11, 2025 (even though I already got it on 1/27) 2. This is money I'm due through January 2025 My situation is this: My first actual SS retirement benefit is scheduled for January 2025, with my first benefit check coming February 12, 2025. Back in November 2024, I paid 3 months of Medicare Part B premiums upfront - covering December, January & February. I paid the old premium rate of $174.70 for December and the new rate of $185 for both January and February. What's really confusing me is that I have 12% tax withholding set up on my SS benefits. The math shows $185 - 12% ($22.20) = $162.80, which matches the check amount. But SSA told me both over the phone AND in this letter that the tax withholding is supposed to apply AFTER they deduct the Part B premium - not TO the Part B reimbursement itself! So my questions: Is this check actually reimbursing me for my January Part B payment? If so, should I expect another similar check for February? And why are they withholding taxes from a premium reimbursement? The whole thing seems backward and I can't get a straight answer from anyone I've talked to at SSA.

One more thing - double check your February payment to make sure everything is correct going forward. Make sure they're deducting the right amount for Medicare Part B and that your withholding percentage is being calculated AFTER the Medicare deduction, not before. The first couple months of benefits often have little glitches that need to be fixed.

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That's excellent advice - I'll definitely check all the math on my February payment when it arrives. Thanks for the heads up!

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm starting SS benefits next month and was wondering about the Medicare Part B situation. Based on what everyone's explained here, it sounds like the key is to only expect reimbursement for months where you'd actually be paying twice - not for every month you paid in advance. And the tax withholding thing is just something we have to deal with unfortunately. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to break this down so clearly!

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Will my SSDI convert to higher retirement benefit when my LTD stops at age 65?

I've been receiving SSDI for about 7 years following some serious health issues. My private long-term disability (LTD) insurance sends me a monthly payment of $715 that's scheduled to end when I turn 65 next year. At that point, I'll also need to start paying for my life insurance out of pocket (currently covered through my LTD plan). With my medical history (multiple cancer battles and two cardiac events), there's absolutely no way I could get affordable life insurance on my own. What I'm trying to figure out is what happens to my Social Security when I turn 65. Will my SSDI payment amount automatically increase to make up for the lost LTD income? Or will it just convert to regular retirement benefits at the same amount I'm getting now? I'm trying to plan my budget for next year and need to know if I'll be taking a financial hit when the LTD ends. Appreciate any insights from folks who've been through this transition.

I noticed someone mentioned SNAP benefits earlier. Just to add to that - when your income changes after LTD ends, you may also qualify for: 1. LIHEAP (energy assistance) 2. Property tax relief/rebate programs (if you own your home) 3. Medicaid spend-down programs to help with medical costs not covered by Medicare 4. Subsidized housing options if you're renting Many people don't realize these programs exist and are specifically designed to help in situations like yours. Contact your local Area Agency on Aging (search online for "Area Agency on Aging" + your county) - they have benefits counselors who can help you navigate all these programs for free.

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Thank you so much for this comprehensive list! I had no idea there were so many potential resources. I'll definitely look up my local Area Agency on Aging. This gives me some hope that I might be able to make things work financially after all.

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As someone who's navigating similar health challenges, I really feel for your situation. Just wanted to add a couple things that might help: 1. Contact your state's SHIP (State Health Insurance Assistance Program) - they provide free counseling specifically for Medicare beneficiaries and can help you understand all your options when your LTD ends. 2. If you're getting close to the poverty line after losing LTD, you might qualify for SSI (Supplemental Security Income) as a supplement to your SSDI-turned-retirement benefits. It's worth checking since the income thresholds change. 3. For the life insurance issue, also look into whether your state has any burial assistance programs through social services - it's not the same as life insurance but could help with final expenses. The transition at 65 is definitely challenging, but it sounds like you're being smart by planning ahead. Wishing you the best as you navigate this!

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