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Hey Katherine! I just went through this same situation a few months ago and wanted to share something that really helped me. Beyond adjusting bill due dates (which others have mentioned), I found it useful to create a simple calendar marking when each month's benefit will actually arrive. So your January benefit arrives Feb 26, February benefit arrives March 26, etc. Having it visually mapped out made budgeting so much easier. One thing nobody mentioned yet - if you're planning to have taxes withheld from your Social Security (which you can elect to do), that will also reduce your monthly payment amount. You can set this up through your my Social Security account if needed. Just wanted to give you a heads up since it's another factor that might make your actual deposit different from what you're expecting. The first few months are definitely the trickiest as you adjust to the new schedule, but it really does become routine once you get into the rhythm of it. Hang in there!

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Thank you so much Salim! Creating a visual calendar is such a smart idea - I'm definitely going to do that. It'll help me see the whole year laid out and plan better. I hadn't thought about tax withholding either, but since I'll have other retirement income, I should probably look into that option. It's amazing how many little details there are with Social Security that nobody really prepares you for! I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences - it makes this whole transition feel much less overwhelming.

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I'm in almost the exact same boat as you Katherine! I just received my award letter last week and was completely blindsided by this payment timing. Like you, I was expecting my benefits to start in January and assumed that meant I'd get paid in January. The reality of waiting until late February for that first payment is definitely a shock to the budget. What's been helpful for me is reaching out to my financial advisor to discuss bridging strategies for that gap period. She suggested looking into a short-term personal loan or potentially adjusting my retirement account withdrawal schedule to cover the difference. I'm also planning to contact my HOA and other monthly bills to see about shifting due dates like others have mentioned. It's frustrating that this isn't explained more clearly during the application process, but at least we're not alone in dealing with this timing surprise! The advice everyone's shared here about building a buffer and planning ahead is really valuable for those of us just starting this journey.

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Olivia, it's so reassuring to know someone else is going through this exact same situation! I felt like I was the only one caught off guard by this timing. Your idea about consulting with a financial advisor is really smart - I should probably do the same since this affects my whole retirement budget plan. I never thought about adjusting retirement account withdrawals to help bridge that gap, but that makes total sense. It's definitely frustrating that they don't make this clearer upfront, but reading everyone's experiences here has been incredibly helpful. We'll figure this out together!

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For your appointment, bring as much documentation as possible: 1. Birth certificates for both children 2. Your marriage certificate 3. Your husband's death certificate 4. Your husband's Social Security number 5. Your Social Security card 6. Your ID 7. Recent pay stubs or proof of earnings 8. Direct deposit information When applying, be sure to emphasize that you are caring for children under 16 who are receiving benefits on your husband's record. The technical term is "mother's/father's benefits" (though many people call it CIC benefits). Also, keep in mind that your CIC benefits will continue until your youngest child turns 16, after which you won't be eligible again until you reach widow's benefit age (currently 60). So it's important to plan for that transition.

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Thank you for this detailed list! I'll make sure to gather everything before my appointment. It's a relief to have clear guidance on what to bring - the SSA website wasn't very specific. I appreciate everyone's help so much. I feel much more prepared now!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Jacob. Reading your post brought back memories of my own experience navigating this after my spouse passed. You're absolutely doing the right thing by pursuing the CIC benefits - don't let that initial misinformation discourage you. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given: when you go to your appointment, ask them to check your husband's entire earnings record and verify the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). Sometimes there are errors or missing quarters that could affect your benefit calculation. Also, request a written summary of your application and any decisions they make - it helps tremendously if you need to follow up later. The backpay should definitely go back to February when your children started receiving benefits, assuming you file within 12 months of becoming eligible. Since you're well within that timeframe, you should be in good shape. Wishing you the best of luck with your appointment. This community has been so helpful for me during my own journey, and it sounds like you're getting great support here too.

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who recently went through this process. I submitted my W-4V form about 3 weeks before my first payment was scheduled, and it worked perfectly. The key thing I learned is that you want your form to be in their system and processed BEFORE your first payment hits, but you don't necessarily need to wait until your status changes from "pending." I'd recommend calling your local SSA office first to ask about their current processing times for W-4V forms. Some offices are faster than others, and this will help you time it right. In my case, they told me it takes about 2-3 weeks to process, so I submitted mine accordingly. Also, definitely go in person if possible - I've heard too many stories about mailed forms getting lost. Good luck with your retirement benefits!

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This is really helpful advice about calling ahead to check processing times! I hadn't thought about that. It makes sense that different offices might have different turnaround times. I'll definitely call my local office next week to ask about their current W-4V processing timeline so I can plan accordingly. Thanks for sharing your successful experience - it gives me more confidence about the whole process!

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I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago! The confusion about timing is totally understandable. From my experience, you can absolutely submit your W-4V form now even while your application shows as "pending." I submitted mine about 2 weeks after getting my approval notification (while it still showed pending online) and everything worked smoothly. Here's what I'd suggest: Fill out your W-4V form completely, make several copies for your records, and take it directly to your local SSA office in person. When I went, they stamped my copy as received and told me it would be attached to my file so the withholding would automatically start with my first payment. Sure enough, my first check in had the correct tax withholding! The most important thing is getting it processed before your May payment, so you have plenty of time. Don't stress too much about the "pending" status online - that's just how their system works during the transition period. You've got this!

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This is exactly the kind of reassurance I needed to hear! I was getting so anxious about messing up the timing, but it sounds like there's actually more flexibility than I initially thought. Your approach of going in person and getting a stamped copy sounds perfect - I definitely want that paper trail. It's really encouraging to hear that your withholding started correctly from the very first payment. I think I'll follow your lead and head to my local office sometime in the next week or two with my completed W-4V. Thanks for sharing such a detailed and positive experience!

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This entire discussion has been incredibly educational! I'm turning 64 next year and was completely unaware of how complex the earnings test could be. The idea of having entire monthly checks withheld upfront rather than just a proportional reduction each month was particularly shocking - that's definitely not how I imagined it working. @Ethan Brown, I hope you don't mind me jumping in, but I wanted to add one consideration that hasn't been mentioned yet: the impact on Medicare Part B premiums. If you're planning to enroll in Medicare at 65, your Part B premiums are based on your income from two years prior, but future income changes could affect IRMAA surcharges down the road. Since you're earning $36k from consulting, this probably won't push you into higher premium brackets, but it's worth factoring into your overall financial planning. The suggestion about reducing your consulting work to stay under the $24,300 limit really does seem like it could be the sweet spot. Even if you had to turn down some projects, the combination of partial consulting income plus full Social Security benefits might exceed what you'd get from full consulting with withheld SS payments. Has anyone here actually tried to precisely manage their income to stay just under the earnings limit? I'm curious how difficult that is in practice, especially for consultants whose project income can be unpredictable.

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Great point about Medicare Part B premiums! I hadn't thought about how income changes might affect IRMAA surcharges later on. Regarding managing income to stay under the earnings limit - I'm not quite there yet myself, but I have a friend who's been doing consulting work while collecting Social Security and she says it's definitely doable but requires careful planning. She tracks her income quarterly and starts declining new projects once she's approaching the limit. The key for her was building relationships with clients who understand she may not be available year-round due to the earnings restrictions. One strategy she mentioned was front-loading her work earlier in the year when possible, so she has more flexibility to turn down projects later if needed. She also keeps a small buffer below the $24,300 limit since project payments don't always come exactly when expected. It sounds like having some income predictability as a consultant would make this approach much more manageable than trying to hit an exact target with completely variable project income.

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Wow, this thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm 63 and facing a similar decision in a couple years. What strikes me most is how personalized this decision really needs to be - there's no universal "right" answer. @Ethan Brown, after reading everyone's input, I'm really curious which way you're leaning now. The strategy of reducing consulting work to stay under the $24,300 limit seems brilliant if you can make it work practically. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is whether you've considered the tax implications of each approach. Social Security benefits can be taxable depending on your total income, so the combination of reduced consulting income plus SS benefits might put you in a different tax situation than waiting for higher benefits at FRA while continuing full consulting work. Also, @Anastasia Sokolov's point about quarterly income tracking is really smart. For consultants, maybe keeping a running spreadsheet of earnings and projected payments could help avoid accidentally going over the limit mid-year. This whole discussion has convinced me I need to start planning my own strategy much earlier than I originally thought. The complexity here is no joke!

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This has been such an educational thread for me as someone new to understanding Social Security! I'm nowhere near retirement age, but seeing how complex these decisions can be is really eye-opening. @Jungleboo Soletrain, your point about tax implications is fascinating - I hadn't even thought about how the combination of different income sources (consulting vs SS benefits) might affect overall tax liability. That seems like another important piece of the puzzle that could tip the scales toward one strategy or another. @Ethan Brown, I'm also really curious to hear how you're processing all this advice! From an outsider's perspective, it seems like the reduced consulting approach could give you the best of both worlds, but I imagine the practical challenges of managing that income level precisely might be significant. One thing that strikes me from everyone's experiences is how important it is to get professional guidance for these decisions. The interaction between Social Security rules, tax implications, Medicare considerations, and individual circumstances seems way too complex to navigate alone. Has anyone here worked with a fee-only financial planner who specializes in Social Security strategies? That might be worth considering given how much money is potentially at stake with different approaches.

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I'm so sorry for your loss and the stress this is adding during an already difficult time. As someone who recently helped my elderly neighbor navigate a similar situation, I wanted to share a few things that might help. First, the $670 amount does seem surprisingly low given your father's $4200 benefit. Even with early claiming reductions, your mom should typically receive a higher survivor benefit than what she's getting now. One thing to double-check: Was your father receiving his full benefit amount, or was his $4200 already reduced because he claimed early too? This would affect the base amount used for calculating your mom's survivor benefits. Also, I'd recommend asking SSA to provide you with a copy of your mom's complete earnings record and benefit calculation worksheet. Sometimes there are errors in their system regarding work history or claiming dates that can significantly impact benefit amounts. The fact that multiple representatives have given you the runaround without a clear explanation is unfortunately common, but don't give up. You have the right to understand exactly how they calculated her benefits. If needed, consider filing an appeal or requesting a formal review of her case. Keep detailed notes of every conversation, including names and reference numbers. This documentation can be crucial if you need to escalate the issue. Your persistence could make a real difference in your mom's financial security.

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Thank you so much for this compassionate and detailed response. You're absolutely right that this is adding stress during an already difficult time, and I really appreciate the practical advice. I hadn't considered that Dad's $4200 might have already been reduced from early claiming - that's a great point I need to verify. He started collecting at 65, but I'm not sure if that was considered "early" for his birth year. The suggestion about getting Mom's complete earnings record and calculation worksheet is excellent. I've been trying to piece together information from different phone calls, but having everything in writing would be so much clearer. I'm definitely going to start keeping detailed notes going forward. I wish I had started doing that from the beginning, but better late than never. The idea of filing a formal review if needed gives me hope that there are still options if we keep hitting roadblocks. Your neighbor is lucky to have someone like you advocating for them. It really does take persistence to navigate this system, doesn't it?

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I'm really sorry for your loss and the confusion you're dealing with during such a difficult time. As someone who works in benefits administration, I wanted to add a few technical points that might help explain what's happening. The key issue here is likely the interaction between early claiming penalties and the specific type of benefits your mom was receiving before your dad passed. If she was already getting a "deemed spousal benefit" (which combines her own small earned benefit with a spousal supplement), the transition to survivor benefits isn't as straightforward as many people expect. Here's what I'd specifically ask SSA to clarify: 1. What was your mom's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) before any reductions? 2. What percentage reduction is being applied due to her claiming at 62? 3. Was she receiving spousal benefits or just her own earned benefit while your dad was alive? One often-overlooked factor is that if your mom was already receiving the maximum possible spousal benefit while your dad was alive, and that amount was close to what she's getting now as a survivor, it might actually be correct - just not what you'd intuitively expect. Also, definitely request form SSA-1099 for both your parents for the past few years. This will show exactly what benefits were being paid to whom, which can help clarify the situation. Don't give up - you're doing the right thing by advocating for your mom!

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! As someone new to navigating Social Security benefits, I really appreciate the technical breakdown. The concept of a "deemed spousal benefit" is something I hadn't heard explained so clearly before. Your point about the SSA-1099 forms is brilliant - I never thought to look at the historical payment records to understand what benefits were actually being paid to each parent. That could really help clarify whether mom was getting spousal benefits or just her own earned amount. The questions you've outlined are exactly what I needed. I've been going into these SSA calls without knowing the right terminology to use, which probably hasn't helped my case. Now I feel much better prepared to have a productive conversation with them. One quick follow-up question: when you mention the "maximum possible spousal benefit" - is there a cap on how much someone can receive as a spousal benefit even if their spouse had a very high earning record? I'm wondering if that could explain the gap between dad's $4200 and mom's current amount.

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