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I'm trying to understand my widow benefits for when my ex-husband passes away. We were married for 23 years before divorcing in 2017. I'm currently 62 and receive a portion of his pension from his federal job ($1,850/month). I was told by a friend that when he passes away, I'll lose this pension completely. Is this true? And more importantly, would I be eligible to receive 100% of his Social Security survivor benefits instead of just the 50% divorced spouse benefit? I'm still working part-time but only make about $14,000 annually and have very little saved for retirement. I need to plan ahead financially since I'm worried about making ends meet if the pension stops. Any information on survivor benefits for divorced spouses would be so helpful.
Looking for some guidance on my Social Security filing strategy. I'm turning 62 next month and struggling with the timing decision. Here's my situation: I retired early from federal service (FERS) and currently receive: - $2,450 monthly pension - $1,850 FERS supplement (stops at 62) My SS benefit estimates are: - Age 62: $2,550/month - Age 67 (FRA): $3,500/month - Age 70: $4,375/month My dilemma: When the FERS supplement ends soon, I need to replace that income either by starting SS at 62 or drawing from retirement accounts. My monthly expenses are about $4,700 including property taxes on my paid-off home. Retirement assets: - $1.4 million in TSP (mostly C fund, which has performed exceptionally well) - $420K in a conservative IRA I understand the math that delaying SS means I won't break even until around age 80-82. My family has good longevity genes and I'm in excellent health, but something just feels wrong about waiting so long to break even. Would you start collecting at 62, FRA, or later? Is there a compelling reason to deplete retirement savings just to delay SS?
Don't overthink this. At your asset level ($1.8M), the SS decision isn't going to make or break your retirement either way. You're in an enviable position where you'll be fine regardless. I tend to favor taking it at 62 because it gives you more flexibility early in retirement when you're most active and can enjoy it. Just my two cents having been on both sides of the decision.
As someone who's been through this exact decision process, I'd encourage you to consider one more angle: spousal benefits and survivor protection. If you're married, delaying your SS benefit doesn't just affect you - it also determines the maximum survivor benefit your spouse could receive. Given your excellent health and family longevity, this could be significant. That said, your financial position is strong enough that you really can't make a "wrong" choice here. I've seen too many people stress over optimizing SS while missing opportunities to enjoy their early retirement years. The difference between claiming at 62 vs 67 might be $200K over 30 years, but you already have nearly $2M in assets. My suggestion: Run the numbers one more time factoring in taxes and your specific withdrawal strategy, then go with whatever gives you the most peace of mind. The "perfect" mathematical choice isn't worth losing sleep over when you're already in such a secure position.
I've been on SSI for about three years now, and I lost my job back in January when my car broke down completely. No way to get to work reliably by bus from where I live (2-hour commute each way became impossible with my health issues). I've been getting by on just my SSI payment since then, but I just realized I never reported to Social Security that I stopped working. I was only making about $420 a month at that part-time job. Should I tell SSA that I'm not working anymore? Will my SSI payment go up now that I don't have that income? I'm worried they might get mad I didn't report it right away. Anyone know if there's a time limit for reporting this kind of change?
The good news is that your SSI should increase now that you don't have that income. The general calculation is that SSI reduces about $1 for every $2 you earn (after some exclusions). So if you were making $420/month, your SSI was probably reduced by around $167.50 or so each month. That means you should see your monthly payment increase by that amount going forward. As for back payments, yes, they should give you the difference for each month since you stopped working. When you call, just be honest about why you didn't report it earlier. Saying you didn't realize you needed to report it (especially if this is your first time making this kind of error) usually results in them just fixing it without penalties.
Hey there! I'm new to this community but wanted to share what happened when I was in a similar situation. I delayed reporting a job loss for about 3 months and was terrified they'd think I was trying to hide something. When I finally called, the representative was actually really understanding. She explained that as long as you're being honest and it wasn't intentional fraud, they usually just fix it going forward. One tip that really helped me: when you call, have your last pay stub ready and be prepared to explain exactly when your last day of work was. They'll need that date to calculate your back payments correctly. Also, don't be surprised if the phone wait times are brutal - I called early morning (like 8 AM) and had better luck getting through. The increase in your monthly payment will probably be noticeable since you were earning $420/month. That should translate to roughly $200+ more per month in SSI once they remove that income from their calculations. Good luck with the call!
My father passed away last November, and I'm facing issues with my older brother who was named executor (we're 3 siblings total). He keeps putting off handling Dad's Social Security matters despite my offers to help. I'm looking at Form 1724 (the Application for Survivor's Benefits) and wondering if I can submit it myself rather than waiting on him. My specific question is about section #3 on the form. It states that "if any child listed has a different name from that given at birth, attach a separate sheet with the following information..." explaining the difference. Both my sister and I changed our last names when we got married. I'm not sure what documentation to provide here. Do we need to include copies of our marriage certificates, or is it sufficient to just write an explanation on a separate paper? I'm thinking the simple explanation should be enough, but don't want the application rejected over something so basic. Has anyone gone through this process recently? Any advice would be appreciated.
If your sister is still in high school and under 19, she's in the sweet spot for eligibility. For the name change question, I submitted a simple statement listing my birth name and current name due to marriage. No problems with that approach. The key is making sure you submit ALL required documentation together: death certificate (certified copy), birth certificates for all applicants, possibly marriage certificates, etc. Missing documentation will delay the process significantly.
Thanks for confirming the simple statement approach works! Would you recommend sending certified copies of everything or are regular photocopies acceptable? I don't want to send original documents in the mail.
NEVER send originals! For birth and death certificates, they typically want certified copies (with the raised seal). For other supporting documents like marriage certificates, regular photocopies are usually fine. When I submitted my deceased husband's paperwork, I included a cover letter with my phone number and a list of all documents enclosed - that helped ensure nothing got lost in the shuffle.
I'm sorry for your loss. I recently went through this process for my mother's passing. Just want to add that if you're planning to visit a local SSA office instead of mailing, try calling them early in the morning (around 8 AM) to schedule an appointment - it's often easier than the national number. Also, bring multiple copies of everything since they sometimes keep documents for their files. One thing that helped me was creating a simple family tree on paper showing all the children, their birth names, current names, and ages - the SSA worker really appreciated having that visual reference when reviewing our case.
I'm planning to file for my Social Security retirement in March when I turn 62. I have custody of 3 adopted children (ages 8, 10, and 12) who I understand will also be eligible for benefits since they're still minors. My Social Security statement shows my PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) would be around $2,050 if I waited until full retirement age, but obviously I'm taking it early. I've been trying to figure out what my kids might receive, but the SSA website is pretty confusing on this. I think they get some percentage of my PIA, not my reduced amount? And there's some family maximum that kicks in? I'm really confused about how to estimate what they might receive. Has anyone gone through this? How can I calculate approximately what the kids will get each month? I need to plan our budget for after I retire. Thanks for any help!
Yes, you can request an appointment with an SSA claims specialist who can provide you with benefit estimates for both yourself and your children before you file. Call the main SSA number (1-800-772-1213) to schedule, or visit your local office. Bring your most recent Social Security statement and the children's documents (birth certificates, adoption papers, and their Social Security cards) to the appointment. The specialist can run the calculations with your specific details and give you a much more accurate estimate than we can provide here. They can also explain the representative payee responsibilities and answer any questions about how the benefits work.
I'm in a similar situation with my adopted daughter and found the SSA.gov benefit calculators pretty helpful for getting ballpark estimates before making the appointment. There's a retirement estimator that lets you plug in different scenarios - it won't calculate the kids' benefits directly, but it'll give you your reduced benefit amount at 62 which helps with the family maximum calculations others mentioned. Also, regarding the appointment scheduling - I had better luck calling right when they open at 8 AM local time. The wait was still long but I actually got through. Another tip: if you have a local SSA office, try walking in early in the morning to see if they have any same-day appointments available. Sometimes they hold a few spots for walk-ins, especially for people with more complex situations like yours with multiple dependents. The whole process is definitely confusing, but once you get the right person at SSA they're usually pretty good at explaining everything step by step. Good luck with your retirement planning!
Thanks for the tip about calling at 8 AM - I'll definitely try that! I hadn't thought about the SSA.gov calculators either, that's a smart approach to at least get some baseline numbers before the appointment. The walk-in suggestion is interesting too. Do you remember roughly how early you went to get a same-day slot? I'm wondering if it's worth driving to the office before they open or if showing up around opening time is sufficient. Really appreciate all the practical advice - this whole process feels overwhelming but everyone's tips are making it seem more manageable!
Mateo Martinez
I'm sorry to hear about your difficult situation. As someone who has navigated similar waters, I wanted to add a few practical tips that might help you prepare: 1. **Document everything now**: Start gathering all your divorce papers, pension statements, and any Social Security statements you have. You'll need these when you meet with SSA. 2. **Consider timing**: If your ex-husband is still alive, you might want to have a conversation about his Social Security earnings record and whether he has enough quarters of coverage. This could affect your survivor benefits. 3. **Emergency planning**: Given that your pension will likely stop immediately upon his death, consider setting up a small emergency fund if possible. Even a few hundred dollars can help cover immediate expenses while you wait for survivor benefits to begin. 4. **Look into local resources**: Many communities have senior centers or non-profit organizations that offer free assistance with Social Security questions. They might be able to help you navigate the system or even accompany you to appointments. The uncertainty is really stressful, but getting concrete numbers from SSA will help you plan better. Hang in there!
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Jessica Nolan
I'm so glad you found this thread helpful! One additional resource I'd recommend is creating a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov if you don't already have one. This will give you access to your earnings record and benefit estimates, and you can also check your ex-husband's work history if you have his SSN. The online tools can help you prepare for your in-person appointment and give you a better understanding of the numbers before you go in. Also, when you do meet with SSA, don't be afraid to ask them to walk through the calculations step by step - they should be able to show you exactly how GPO would affect your benefits while you're receiving the pension versus after it ends. Having those specific dollar amounts will make your financial planning so much easier. Best of luck with everything!
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Giovanni Colombo
This is such great advice about the my Social Security account! I actually didn't know I could check my ex-husband's work history with his SSN - that could really help me understand what his actual Social Security benefit amount might be. I'm definitely going to set that up before my appointment so I can come prepared with better questions. Having those specific calculations will make such a difference in planning my budget. Thank you for mentioning that SSA should walk through the numbers step by step too - I'll make sure to ask for that detailed breakdown!
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