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I'm turning 70 in March and need advice on switching from survivor benefits (which I've been collecting since 62) to my own retirement benefits. My own benefits should be substantially higher, which is why I waited. But now I'm confused about several things: 1) TIMING: When exactly should I apply to switch? A month before turning 70? The month of? After? 2) VERIFICATION: How can I confirm the exact amount I'll receive? I wrote it down years ago but can't find that paper now. When I called SSA last year, the rep quoted me an amount that seemed about $250 less than what I remember being told originally. 3) APPLICATION METHOD: Should I handle this through the 800 number or try to get an in-person appointment at my local office? Are in-person appointments even available these days? I'm still working part-time (1099 income). I did have an earnings limit issue right before my FRA where I had to repay some benefits for a couple months when I earned too much. Since then I've been careful. The frustrating thing is I can't see my own retirement benefit amount online - my account only shows my current survivor benefit info. How will I know they're giving me the correct amount when I switch?
I'm 67 and have full custody of my two grandkids (11 and 9) who both have autism. I've been receiving SSI ($943/month) for the past 3 years due to my own disability. Their therapist recently suggested I should apply for SSI for both children given their autism diagnosis and special needs. I'm worried about how this might impact my own benefits though. If they qualify, will my SSI amount decrease? Does having multiple SSI recipients in one household change the benefit calculations? I'm already struggling to make ends meet with the current benefits, and while additional help would be great, I can't afford to lose any of my current support. Has anyone here gone through something similar with getting SSI for dependents while receiving it yourself? Any advice would be so appreciated!
my friend just went thru this with her autistic twins!! she said the SSI application took forever but the interviewer was super nice and walked her thru everything. dont forget to bring proof that you have legal custody of them and all their diagnosis paperwork!! and when you get to the SSA office bring snacks cuz youll be there ALL DAY lol
I went through this same situation with my grandson who has autism! Here's what I learned from the process: Your $943 SSI won't decrease directly, but when multiple people in the same household receive SSI, each additional person gets a reduced amount (around 75% of the individual rate). So while each child won't get the full $687/month they might get living independently, you'll still come out way ahead financially. A few practical tips from my experience: - Start gathering ALL medical records NOW - the more documentation the better - Get letters from their doctors specifically stating how autism affects their daily functioning - The school's IEP documents are crucial evidence - Be prepared for the process to take 3-6 months minimum - Don't get discouraged if they're initially denied - appeals are common and often successful The Medicaid benefits they'll get with SSI approval are honestly just as valuable as the cash benefits. All their therapy, medications, and special equipment will be covered. One thing nobody warned me about - once they're approved, you'll have three separate SSI cases to manage with different review dates and paperwork. It's a lot but totally worth it for the financial relief! Feel free to ask if you have specific questions about the application process!
I'm trying to figure out how my brother's benefits will change when my dad claims Social Security retirement in March. My brother (29, disabled since childhood) currently gets $943 in SSI with Medicaid coverage. Once my dad starts his retirement benefits, my brother will become eligible for Disabled Adult Child (DAC) benefits. I'm confused about the income thresholds that would make him completely ineligible for SSI. I think it's around $1200 DAC where SSI stops completely? And if he loses SSI, does he immediately lose Medicaid or is there a 2-year waiting period before Medicare kicks in? The transition between these programs is so confusing and I'm worried about him losing healthcare coverage during any gap. Has anyone navigated this DAC/SSI/Medicaid situation successfully?
One more thing to be aware of: the DAC benefit amount will be 50% of your father's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) while your father is alive. If you have multiple family members drawing on your father's record, the Family Maximum Benefit rules might apply, potentially reducing the amount your brother receives. After calculating the expected DAC amount, I'd recommend contacting your state's Medicaid office BEFORE the transition occurs to discuss the DAC Medicaid continuation provision. Some offices have special coordinators who handle these complex cases. Getting ahead of the situation can prevent a gap in coverage.
I didn't know about the Family Maximum Benefit potentially reducing his amount. Right now it would just be my dad and brother on the record (mom is deceased but didn't have much work history). I'll definitely contact Medicaid ahead of time - great suggestion about asking for a coordinator who specializes in these cases.
This is such a complex situation, and I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences! As someone who works with disability benefits, I want to add a few practical tips: 1. Document EVERYTHING - keep records of all calls to SSA and Medicaid, including dates, names of representatives you spoke with, and what they told you. 2. When your dad applies for retirement benefits, make sure SSA knows about your brother's disability so they can process the DAC application simultaneously. This helps avoid delays. 3. Consider reaching out to your local disability advocacy organization or legal aid - many have staff who specialize in these benefit transitions and can help navigate the Medicaid continuation process. 4. If your brother has any other sources of income (even small amounts), make sure to factor those into the SSI calculation as well. The Section 1634(c) protection for DAC beneficiaries is real and legally required, but sadly many local offices don't understand it. Having an advocate who knows the rules can make a huge difference in ensuring your brother maintains his healthcare coverage during this transition.
Hey there SS experts! I finally took the plunge and retired from my factory job last month, but I'm keeping my side hustle as an independent transcriptionist to supplement my Social Security retirement benefits. I know about the earnings test limit (around $22,320 for 2025 since I'm under FRA), and I'll stay well below that. But I just discovered there's apparently a 45-hour per month limit for self-employed people? This has me worried because even though my hourly earnings are pretty low ($15-17/hour for transcription), I sometimes put in 60+ hours a month during busy periods. Does this 45-hour rule apply to all self-employed people, or just professionals like doctors and lawyers making big money? I'm trying to stay compliant but also need this extra income. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation with low-paying self-employment after retirement?
Thanks everyone for your helpful advice! I feel much better about this situation now. I'm going to focus on staying under the annual earnings limit and not worry too much about the hours since my transcription work isn't considered a high-skill professional service. I'll keep good records of my income and expenses to be safe. Really appreciate all of you taking time to share your knowledge and experiences!
Great discussion here! As someone who just started collecting Social Security while doing freelance web design, I was also worried about the 45-hour rule. After reading through all these responses and doing my own research, it seems like the key takeaway is that SSA uses the "substantial services" test mainly for high-earning professionals who might be gaming the system. For most of us doing regular freelance or part-time work, staying under the annual earnings limit is what really matters. I've been keeping a simple spreadsheet tracking both my hours and income just to be safe, but it sounds like the income tracking is the critical part. Thanks Ana for asking this question - it's clearly something a lot of us new retirees are confused about!
Hi everyone, I'm trying to figure out how my claiming strategy affects my wife. I recently met with a financial advisor who suggested I delay claiming SS until 70, but I'm confused about how this impacts spousal and survivor benefits. If my full retirement age (67) benefit would be $2,750/month, and my age 70 benefit would be approximately $3,465/month due to delayed retirement credits, I need to understand: 1. If I wait until 70 to claim, what would my wife's spousal benefit be based on? Would she get 50% of my FRA amount ($1,375) or 50% of my age 70 amount ($1,732.50)? 2. For survivor benefits (not that I'm planning to die soon!), would my wife receive my full age 70 benefit of $3,465 or just my FRA amount if I pass away? My wife is 2 years younger than me and hasn't worked enough to qualify for her own SS benefit. We're trying to maximize our household income both now and if something happens to either of us. Thanks for any help explaining this!
My husband and me were just talking about this! Do you guys have a financial advisor who specializes in SS? Our regular investment guy doesnt really know all these complicated rules. Makes a big difference to get the right advice!
I'm new to this community but dealing with a similar situation with my parents. One thing I learned from researching this is that you might want to consider the "break-even" analysis - comparing the total benefits you'd receive by claiming at FRA vs waiting until 70. If you're in good health and have longevity in your family, waiting until 70 usually makes sense not just for the higher monthly benefit, but especially for maximizing your wife's potential survivor benefit. The crossover point is typically around age 82-83 where the delayed claiming strategy starts paying off in total lifetime benefits. But since your wife would get that higher survivor benefit for potentially decades, it's often worth the wait even if you don't personally reach that break-even age.
@Connor Murphy - I ve'used the Social Security Administration s'online calculator on their website, but it s'pretty basic. For more comprehensive analysis that includes survivor benefits and joint life expectancies, I d'recommend looking into tools like OpenSocialSecurity.com it (s'free and created by a financial planning software company or) NewRetirement s'Social Security calculator. These tools let you input both spouses information' and will show you various claiming scenarios including the impact on survivor benefits. Some fee-only financial planners also use more sophisticated software like Social Security Analyzer Pro, but you d'need to work with an advisor who has access to those tools. The key is finding something that doesn t'just look at your individual break-even but considers the household optimization across both your lifetimes.
@Connor Murphy - I ve'found a few good calculators that help with this analysis. The AARP Social Security Calculator and the SSA s'own retirement estimator are decent starting points, but for more sophisticated analysis that includes survivor benefits, I really like the MaximizeMySocialSecurity calculator though (it s'a paid service .)OpenSocialSecurity.com is free and does factor in both spouses, but it s'a bit more basic. The key thing these tools help you see is that when you have a significant age gap or income difference between spouses, the survivor benefit optimization often outweighs the personal break-even calculation. Your situation sounds like a textbook case for delaying - higher earner with younger spouse who would benefit from that enhanced survivor benefit for decades.
Fidel Carson
To answer your most recent question: Yes, you will receive an award letter in the mail after you apply that will show your exact benefit amount and how it was calculated. This typically arrives 2-4 weeks after your application is processed. The letter will show your PIA (Primary Insurance Amount), any delayed retirement credits, and your final monthly benefit amount. If you see any discrepancies or have questions about the calculation, you can call SSA for clarification after receiving this letter. I would recommend keeping this letter in a safe place for future reference since it contains the official record of your benefit calculation.
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Ana Rusula
AuthorPerfect - I'll make sure to watch for that letter and compare it to what I'm told on the phone. I'm going to try calling next week (a month before my birthday). Thank you for all the help everyone!
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Mei Liu
Just wanted to add - make sure you have all your documentation ready when you call! I'd recommend having your Social Security card, recent tax returns (especially if you've had 1099 income), and any previous benefit statements you can find. Also, if you do end up having trouble getting through on the phone, try calling right at 7 AM when they open - that's usually the best time to avoid the worst wait times. Tuesday through Thursday tend to be less busy than Mondays and Fridays. Good luck with your switch! It sounds like you made a smart decision waiting until 70 to maximize your benefits.
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