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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I've been a case worker at our local SSA field office for about 8 years now, and I can confirm that the information shared here is very accurate. The difference between SSDI and early retirement benefits really is substantial - typically that 25-30% reduction for early retirement versus getting your full PIA amount with SSDI. One additional tip for your brother's application: since he's an electrician with rheumatoid arthritis, make sure his doctors specifically document how his condition affects his ability to perform the physical demands of electrical work - things like climbing ladders, working in cramped spaces, manipulating small components, and maintaining steady hand control for precision work. The more specific the functional limitations are documented, the stronger his case will be. Also, don't be discouraged if there's an initial denial. We see many legitimate cases get approved on appeal, especially when applicants take the time to gather comprehensive medical evidence. The key is persistence and thorough documentation. Good luck to your brother!

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Thank you so much for weighing in from the professional side! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who works directly with these cases. Your point about documenting the specific physical demands of electrical work is spot on - I hadn't thought about emphasizing things like ladder climbing and working in tight spaces, but those are huge parts of what my brother does daily. The precision work aspect is especially relevant since his RA flares make his hands shake and he loses fine motor control. I'm definitely going to share this thread with him and encourage him to have his rheumatologist document all these specific functional limitations. Thanks for the encouragement about appeals too - it helps to know that persistence really does pay off!

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I went through almost the exact same situation with my dad about 3 years ago. He was a carpenter for 35 years and developed severe osteoarthritis in his hands and knees by age 61. The hardest part was convincing him that SSDI was worth pursuing instead of just taking the "guaranteed" early retirement money. His SSDI benefit ended up being $2,140/month compared to what would have been about $1,500 with early retirement at 62. That's $640 extra every single month! Over just the first year, that difference paid for a lot of his medical treatments and prescriptions. The application process took about 10 months total - he got denied initially (like most people do), but was approved on reconsideration. The key was having his orthopedist write a very detailed report about how the arthritis specifically prevented him from doing construction work - lifting, gripping tools, kneeling, standing on uneven surfaces, etc. One thing that really helped was keeping a daily pain journal for about 3 months before applying. He wrote down his pain levels, what activities he couldn't do each day, and how the condition affected his sleep and daily life. The disability examiner actually mentioned that this documentation was very helpful in understanding the severity of his limitations. Your brother should definitely try for SSDI first given his age and the substantial financial difference. The Medicare eligibility alone makes it worth the effort!

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Wow, this is incredibly encouraging to hear! Your dad's story gives me so much hope for my brother's situation. That $640 monthly difference really drives home just how much money could be at stake here. The daily pain journal is such a brilliant idea - I never would have thought of that, but it makes perfect sense that having documented evidence of how the condition affects daily activities would strengthen the case. My brother tends to downplay his symptoms, but keeping a detailed record would force him to really acknowledge and document the reality of what he's dealing with every day. Thank you for sharing such specific details about your dad's experience - it's exactly the kind of real-world guidance we needed!

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact same situation two years ago! My husband filed at 62 while I was still working full-time making about $75K. Everyone here is absolutely right - your income will NOT reduce his actual Social Security benefit amount. That's only affected by HIS earnings if he goes over the annual limit. However, I'll share what we learned the hard way about the tax situation. With your $87K income plus his benefits and part-time work, you'll likely owe taxes on 85% of his Social Security benefits. We ended up owing about $2,400 extra at tax time our first year because we didn't plan for it properly. My advice: contact a tax professional NOW to run projections based on your expected 2025 income. We ended up increasing my payroll withholding by about $200/month to cover the extra tax liability, which worked out perfectly. That way we still got his full $1,450 monthly for our debt payoff plan without any nasty surprises come April. Also, make sure your husband keeps really good records of his part-time earnings throughout the year. The SSA is very strict about that earnings test, and going even a little over can trigger benefit withholding. Good luck with paying down that mortgage faster!

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This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about! Thank you for sharing the specifics about owing $2,400 extra - that gives me a concrete number to work with when planning. I think increasing my withholding at work is definitely the way to go rather than having it taken from his SS benefits. That way we can stick to our mortgage payoff timeline with the full monthly amount. I'll definitely contact our tax preparer this week to run those projections. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who actually went through this same situation successfully!

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I'm so glad you asked this question because I was literally having the same worry! My husband is planning to file at 62 next year while I'm still working, and I've been stressed about whether my income would mess up his benefits. Reading through everyone's responses here has been incredibly helpful - it's such a relief to know that only HIS earnings count for the earnings test, not mine. The tax situation is definitely something I hadn't fully considered though. With everyone mentioning that up to 85% of his benefits could be taxable with our combined income, I think I need to start planning for that now. The idea of increasing withholding from my paycheck instead of his SS benefits makes a lot of sense - that way we can still count on his full benefit amount for our budget. Thank you to everyone who shared their real experiences with this! It's so much more helpful than trying to figure it out from the SSA website alone. I feel much more confident about our retirement planning now.

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As someone who works in retirement planning, I want to emphasize a key point that might help ease your concerns: the Social Security earnings test is designed to be fair, not punitive. The $1 withheld for every $2 over the limit is actually a deferral, not a permanent loss. When you reach Full Retirement Age, SSA recalculates your benefit to account for the months when benefits were reduced due to earnings, which can result in a higher monthly payment for life. Also, regarding tracking your earnings - many people don't realize that your final pay stub of the year will show your complete year-to-date earnings. If you're cutting it close, you might want to ask payroll when your final December paycheck will be processed and whether any bonuses will be included in 2025 or deferred to 2026. Sometimes companies have flexibility with year-end bonus timing for exactly these situations. The most important thing is not to make drastic decisions (like significantly reducing work hours) based on estimates. A small overage really isn't catastrophic, and the adjustment process is much more manageable than many people fear.

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Thank you so much for explaining that the withheld benefits are actually deferred rather than permanently lost! As someone new to navigating early Social Security, that distinction is huge and really puts my mind at ease. I had no idea that SSA recalculates your benefit at FRA to account for those withheld months - that completely changes how I'm thinking about this situation. Your point about asking payroll regarding bonus timing is brilliant too. I'm going to reach out to them tomorrow to see if there's any flexibility with when my year-end bonus gets processed. It's such a relief to hear from someone in retirement planning that small overages aren't the financial disaster I was imagining. All of these responses have been incredibly helpful in understanding that the system is designed to be fair rather than punitive.

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I went through this exact worry last year! I was about $1,500 over the limit and spent months stressing about it. When SSA finally processed everything in spring 2025, they sent me a clear letter explaining they would reduce my monthly benefit by $125 for six months instead of taking one big chunk. What really helped me was getting my exact earnings from my company's benefits administrator (not HR or payroll) - they had access to the most detailed breakdown including what counted toward Social Security wages versus total compensation. If you're really close to the limit, another option is to see if your employer can defer part of your December pay or bonus to January 2026. Many companies will work with you on timing if you explain the Social Security situation. The whole process was much less scary than I anticipated, and knowing that any withheld benefits get factored back into your calculation at Full Retirement Age made me feel better about the temporary reduction.

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I'm so sorry to hear about your son's accident. As someone who went through the SSDI application process for my disabled spouse, I want to emphasize a few key points that haven't been fully covered: 1. **Apply immediately** - Don't wait for his workplace disability to run out. The application process can take 3-6 months even for clear cases, and there's that 5-month waiting period before benefits begin. 2. **Representative payee vs. authorized representative** - Since your son is incapacitated, you'll likely need to become his representative payee (not just authorized representative). This gives you legal authority to manage his benefits if approved. 3. **Document everything** - Keep detailed records of all medical appointments, treatments, and communications with doctors. This will be crucial if you need to appeal or provide additional evidence. 4. **Consider contacting a disability attorney** - Many work on contingency (no upfront fees) and can help navigate the system, especially for complex cases involving brain injuries where recovery timelines are uncertain. The good news is that severe TBI cases like your son's often qualify under the Compassionate Allowance program, which can significantly speed up the approval process. Wishing you and your son the best during this difficult time.

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Thank you so much for this comprehensive information. The distinction between representative payee and authorized representative is really important - I hadn't realized there was a difference. Given that my son is in a coma, representative payee does sound like what I need. I'm definitely going to look into contacting a disability attorney. With everything else I'm managing right now, having professional help navigate this system would be worth it. Do you know if there are attorneys who specialize specifically in brain injury cases? I imagine the medical complexities might require someone with that specific experience. The Compassionate Allowance program gives me some hope that this might move faster than the horror stories I've been hearing about years-long waits. Every bit of information helps right now when I feel so overwhelmed by all of this.

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I'm so sorry to hear about your son's accident - this must be an incredibly difficult time for your family. As someone who works in disability advocacy, I want to add a few practical tips to the excellent advice already given: **Timing is critical** - File the application now, even while he's still in a coma. The "established onset date" will be the date of his accident, so you're not losing any time by applying early. **Medical documentation strategy** - Request a comprehensive medical summary from his treating neurologist that specifically addresses his functional limitations and prognosis. SSA needs to understand not just his diagnosis, but how it affects his ability to work. Brain injury cases can be complex because recovery varies so much. **Financial planning** - If approved, SSDI benefits are retroactive to 5 months after the established onset date. So if his accident was in January, benefits would start in June, but he'd receive back pay for those months when the claim is approved. **State resources** - Contact your state's disability determination services office - they often have expedited processing for cases involving coma/severe brain injury. Also check if your state has a Protection & Advocacy organization that provides free assistance with disability claims. The uncertainty about his recovery is heartbreaking, but the work incentive programs really do provide flexibility if he's able to return to work eventually. You're being a great advocate for him during this crisis.

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I wanted to add something that might be relevant to your situation - if your husband has any military service or government employment, there could be additional survivor benefits available that work alongside Social Security. For example, if he has any federal employment where he paid into FERS (Federal Employee Retirement System), there would be a separate survivor annuity that could provide additional monthly income. Similarly, veterans' survivors may be eligible for Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC) from the VA, which is separate from Social Security. These benefits don't reduce your Social Security survivor benefits - you can receive both simultaneously. Given that your husband works in construction, he may have union pension benefits with survivor options as well. It's worth reviewing all retirement accounts and pensions now to understand what survivor benefits they offer. Also, don't forget about any life insurance policies through his employer or that you've purchased independently. While not ongoing monthly income like Social Security, these can provide crucial financial breathing room during the transition period.

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This is excellent advice! My husband doesn't have military service, but he has been in a union for most of his career, so there definitely could be survivor benefits through his pension that I hadn't fully considered. I'll need to contact his union representative to get the details on what's available. You're absolutely right that I should be looking at all these different income sources together, not just Social Security in isolation. The life insurance piece is especially important - we do have policies through his employer, but I should double-check the beneficiary information is current and understand exactly how the claims process works. It's helpful to know that these other benefits wouldn't reduce Social Security survivor benefits. I was worried everything would be interconnected and that receiving one might hurt eligibility for another. Thank you for giving me this broader perspective on survivor financial planning!

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I'm so glad you asked this question because it's something many couples don't think about until it's too late! You're absolutely being smart and responsible by planning ahead. One thing I wanted to add that I don't think has been mentioned yet - if your husband passes away and you're receiving survivor benefits, you should know that the earnings test works differently for survivors than it does for regular retirement benefits. If you're under your full retirement age and working while receiving survivor benefits, the earnings limit is higher than the regular retirement earnings limit ($22,320 for 2024 vs $19,560 for regular retirement benefits). Also, here's something that might give you even more peace of mind: even if you claim your own retirement benefit at 63 as planned, and then your husband passes away later, you can potentially "restart" at a higher survivor benefit amount. The flexibility survivors have in the Social Security system is actually one of the few areas where the rules work in your favor. You mentioned your husband's construction work is physically demanding - many people in similar situations find that claiming at 62 was the right choice for their health and quality of life. The financial calculations are important, but so is being able to enjoy retirement while you're both healthy enough to do so.

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