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Can I claim Social Security benefits from ex-wife who died after remarrying?

I'm trying to figure out my Social Security options as I approach retirement. I'll hit my full retirement age (FRA) in about three years and want to maximize my benefits. My situation is a bit complicated. My ex-wife and I were married for 27 years before divorcing (it was amicable). We both ended up remarrying, but unfortunately she passed away after being married to her second husband for 6 years. Her second husband also passed away about 6 months after she did. I'm still working and planning my retirement strategy, but I'm wondering - am I eligible for any survivor or ex-spouse benefits based on my deceased ex-wife's Social Security record? Does the fact that we were both remarried affect this? I know there are ex-spouse benefits in some cases, but does her death change how that works? Thanks for any guidance!

Thank you all for the responses! This has been incredibly helpful. I've made an appointment with SSA for next month and will specifically ask about surviving divorced spouse benefits. I'm gathering all my documents, including our marriage certificate, divorce decree, and her SSN. From what you've all shared, it sounds like I might be eligible since we were married over 10 years, even though we both remarried. I'll update once I learn more from SSA - this forum has already given me a much better starting point than I had before!

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Sounds like you're on the right track! One additional tip: when you have your appointment, make sure to ask them to run calculations showing how different claiming ages would affect both your retirement benefit and any potential survivor benefit. Sometimes delaying one type of benefit while claiming another can maximize your lifetime payout. Good luck!

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Just wanted to add that you should also ask SSA about the timing of when to claim these benefits. Since you're still working and have 3 years until FRA, you might want to understand how the earnings test works if you claim survivor benefits early (you can claim as early as 60, but at a reduced rate). Also, survivor benefits don't earn delayed retirement credits like your own retirement benefit does, so there's no advantage to waiting past your FRA to claim them. The strategy might be to claim survivor benefits at FRA and let your own retirement benefit grow until age 70 if that would result in higher lifetime benefits. Definitely worth discussing all the timing options with them!

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Social Security spousal benefits question - can wife claim 50% at 62 while I'm working past FRA?

I'm trying to figure out the best strategy for my wife and me with Social Security. I'm continuing to work for another year past my Full Retirement Age (I'm 67 now), and haven't filed for my benefits yet. My wife just turned 62 last month and has worked part-time most of her life, so her SS benefit would be much lower than mine. I've heard spouses can get 50% of the higher earner's benefit, but I'm not sure how this works if I'm still working and haven't claimed yet. Can my wife file for spousal benefits now at 62, or does she have to wait until I actually file? And if she can file now, would she get the full 50% of my benefit or is there a reduction because she's only 62? We're trying to balance maximizing our combined benefits while getting some income for her sooner. Anyone dealt with this specific situation before? The SSA website has me confused with all the different rules and exceptions.

My head is spinning with all these rules!!! I thought Social Security was supposed to be simple? Why do they make everything so complicated with all these different ages and percentages and rules about who can file when???? I'm turning 60 next month and now I'm terrified I'm going to mess everything up when it's my turn to figure this out!!

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I feel ya! I made a big spreadsheet with different options and still got confused. ended up just going to the SS office in person and making them explain everything! took half a day but was worth it

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I'm new to this community but going through something similar with my parents right now. My dad is 68 and still working, mom just turned 63. We learned the hard way that she can't get spousal benefits until he actually files - even though he's past FRA. One thing that helped us was requesting a Social Security Statement online to see exactly what both their benefits would be at different ages. You can create an account on the SSA website and it shows your projected benefits at 62, FRA, and 70. Really helps with running the numbers to see what makes sense financially. Also, don't forget about Medicare! Even if you delay Social Security, you still need to enroll in Medicare at 65 to avoid penalties (unless you have qualifying employer coverage). That's a whole other set of rules to navigate unfortunately.

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Social Security application phone appointment Monday - what should I have ready?

Just got my phone appointment with Social Security scheduled for Monday to apply for retirement benefits. Super nervous! I've got my SS card, birth certificate, and last year's W-2 ready. Haven't worked for the last 6 months due to health issues, but hoping that won't affect my benefits too much. Is there anything else I should prepare before the call? Any tips to make sure I get maximum benefits? I've been stressing over this for weeks and just want to make sure I don't mess anything up. I turn 65 in about 3 months if that matters.

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You all have been so helpful! I'm definitely going to ask about the survivor benefits vs. my own retirement benefits. Had no idea I could potentially claim one now and switch later - that sounds like a smart strategy. I've got my marriage certificate, direct deposit info, and tax returns ready. And I'll make sure to answer the phone early! One more question - the appointment is scheduled for 45 minutes. Is that enough time to cover everything? Should I prepare questions in advance?

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45 minutes is usually enough time. Having questions written down is definitely smart! Key questions to ask: 1. What would my benefit amount be at different claiming ages (now, FRA, 70)? 2. What would my survivor benefit be now vs. at my FRA? 3. Which claiming strategy maximizes my lifetime benefits? 4. How does my recent work stoppage affect my benefit amount? Also ask them to email or mail you a summary of the different benefit amounts they quote you. That way you can review everything carefully before making your final decision.

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just wondering how the appointment went?? mine was so scary but the lady was soooo nice actually!

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It went great! They called right on time and the rep was super helpful. I took everyone's advice here and asked about survivor benefits vs. my own retirement. Turns out I can get about $2,800/month on my husband's record if I wait until my FRA vs. $1,450 on my own record now! I'm going to think about whether to take reduced survivor benefits now or wait. Thanks everyone for your help!!

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That's fantastic news! What a huge difference - almost double the monthly amount if you wait for survivor benefits at FRA versus taking your own now. That really shows how valuable it was to ask about both options. The waiting might be worth it for that extra $1,350 per month, especially since you're only 3 months from 65. Did they mention what the reduced survivor benefit amount would be if you claimed it now versus waiting until FRA?

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Social Security survivor benefits not showing up on my SSA account - should I call?

I'm 54 and lost my husband unexpectedly about 3 months ago at age 63. He hadn't filed for his Social Security benefits yet. I've been trying to get organized on the financial side, and when I logged into my mySocialSecurity account, I only see information about my own retirement benefits - nothing about survivor benefits I might be eligible for in the future. I did contact SSA shortly after he passed to notify them and collect the $255 death benefit, so I know they have his death recorded in their system. I'm not planning to claim survivor benefits for several years, but shouldn't there be SOME indication on my account about potential survivor benefits? Do I need to call SSA to make sure everything is properly linked in their system? Getting through on the phone is such a nightmare that I want to make sure it's necessary before I try.

One more thing to keep in mind - it's generally advisable to speak with an SSA representative before you make any claiming decisions regarding survivor benefits. The optimal claiming strategy often involves taking survivor benefits at one age and your own retirement benefits at a different age, depending on your specific circumstances. For example, if your own retirement benefit at age 70 would be higher than your survivor benefit, you might take reduced survivor benefits at 60 and then switch to your own benefit at 70. Or if your survivor benefit would be higher, you might take your own reduced retirement benefit at 62 and switch to survivors at your FRA. The SSA representatives won't volunteer this information unless you specifically ask about these strategies.

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That's really good advice. I've been reading about these restricted application strategies but wasn't sure if they still applied for survivor benefits. Sounds like I should definitely consult with SSA when I get closer to 60 to figure out the optimal approach.

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I'm sorry for your loss. I went through something very similar when my father passed away last year. My mom had the exact same concern about not seeing survivor benefit information on her mySocialSecurity account, and like others have mentioned, this is completely normal. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - when you do eventually contact SSA to apply for survivor benefits, make sure you have your husband's Social Security number handy along with your marriage certificate. They'll need to verify the marriage duration since you need to have been married for at least 9 months (with some exceptions for accidental death). Also, since you're 54 now, you might want to keep in mind that if you remarry before age 60, it could affect your eligibility for survivor benefits from your late husband. But if you remarry at 60 or later, you can still collect survivor benefits. The SSA phone system is definitely a nightmare, but when you're ready to apply in a few years, calling first thing in the morning (right at 8 AM) or late in the week tends to have shorter wait times in my experience.

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Will working 2 more years significantly increase my Social Security benefit with gaps in work history?

I'm trying to figure out if working longer will meaningfully boost my Social Security. My work history has plenty of gaps - I was a stay-at-home parent for about 6 years, then worked part-time for another 6 years while raising kids. Since SS benefits are calculated using your 35 highest-earning years, I'm wondering how much difference working 2 more years would actually make for me. I'm considering retiring 2 years early, but would still wait until my Full Retirement Age to start collecting benefits. Is there some calculation or tool I can use to determine how much those extra 2 working years might increase my monthly SS payment? I want to make an informed decision about whether continuing to work is worth it financially from a Social Security perspective.

Since no one's mentioned it yet, there's also an actual formula you can use to get a rough idea. Your Social Security benefit is based on your Average Indexed Monthly Earnings (AIME). If you have several zero years in your 35-year calculation: 1. Every $1,200 in additional annual earnings translates to about $1 more per month in benefits for the rest of your life So if you're earning $72,000 per year as you mentioned, and replacing zeros, that's potentially adding about $60 monthly to your benefit for each year worked ($72,000 ÷ $1,200 = $60). Over a 20-year retirement, that's about $28,800 in additional benefits for each extra year you work (not counting cost of living adjustments). This is simplified, but gives you a ballpark figure to compare against your work satisfaction and other factors.

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Thank you for breaking it down like this! That makes it much clearer. So working those 2 additional years could potentially add around $120 to my monthly benefit, which is more significant than I thought. That definitely factors into my decision.

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Another factor to consider is the delayed retirement credits if you're thinking about when to actually claim benefits. If you're planning to retire but wait until your Full Retirement Age to claim, you might also want to look into whether waiting even longer to claim (up to age 70) could make sense given your situation. Since you have those gaps in your work history, your benefit amount at FRA might be lower than someone with a full 35-year career. Delayed retirement credits give you an 8% increase per year for each year you delay claiming past your FRA up to age 70. So if your FRA benefit ends up being on the lower side due to those zero years, the delayed credits could be particularly valuable. You could potentially retire when you want, work part-time or consult if you need income, and still maximize your eventual Social Security benefit by waiting to claim. Just something else to factor into your overall retirement strategy!

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