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I had another question about this - if I file for benefits mid-year, does the earnings limit apply to all my earnings for the entire year, or just what I earn after I start receiving benefits?

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That's incredibly helpful! So I could potentially earn well over the annual limit in the first part of the year, then start benefits and keep my monthly earnings under $1,890 for the rest of the year? That makes my planning much easier.

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Exactly! That's one of the lesser-known benefits of the monthly test for first-year retirees. Just remember that the monthly test is only available in your first year of retirement - after that, it's the annual test. Also, you'll need to clearly document when you officially "retired" from your consulting business, as SSA will want to know the specific month you transitioned from full work to retirement status. Keep good records of your work hours and income patterns to support your case if they ever ask.

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation - turning 66 next year and trying to figure out the best strategy. One thing I wanted to add is that if you do end up going over the earnings limit, the "lost" benefits aren't actually lost forever. Once you reach your full retirement age, SSA recalculates your benefit and gives you credit for those withheld months by increasing your monthly payment. So if you're close to FRA anyway, the temporary reduction might not be as bad as it seems. Has anyone here actually experienced this recalculation process?

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I haven't personally experienced the recalculation yet, but my father went through this about 5 years ago. He had benefits withheld for about 8 months because he exceeded the earnings limit, and SSA did automatically recalculate his benefit when he reached FRA. His monthly payment increased by roughly $120 to account for those withheld months. The process was automatic - he didn't have to apply or request it. It took about 2-3 months after his FRA birthday for the adjustment to show up, and he also received a small lump sum for the difference in the increased payments from his FRA date. So you're absolutely right that it's not truly "lost" money, just delayed!

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Thank you everyone for the responses. I'm going to try the mobile app first for reporting, and then try to get an appointment with a Claims Specialist who understands concurrent entitlement situations. I'll make sure to get everything in writing and keep good records of all our reporting. Just to clarify - my spouse benefits are definitely under the child-in-care provision because of our disabled adult daughter, not regular spousal benefits (which I know I couldn't get until 62). It sounds like both my wife and daughter need to report their earnings directly to SSA, regardless of employer reporting. I appreciate all the helpful information!

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You've got a solid plan! Just wanted to add a few tips from my experience dealing with similar reporting situations: 1. When using the mobile app, screenshot everything after you submit your wage reports - the confirmation numbers and dates. SSA's system sometimes doesn't save properly and having proof you reported can save you headaches later. 2. For your daughter's DAC benefits, keep detailed records of her work hours and earnings. If she ever approaches the SGA limit ($1,550/month in 2025), you'll want to show SSA the pattern of her earnings to demonstrate it's part-time/intermittent work rather than substantial gainful activity. 3. Consider setting calendar reminders to report quarterly rather than waiting for annual estimates. This helps avoid large overpayments if earnings are higher than expected. 4. Since your situation involves child-in-care benefits with an adult disabled child, make sure the Claims Specialist documents in your file that this is an ongoing DAC case, not a regular child's case. This prevents future confusion when staff reviews your benefits. Good luck! The fact that you're being proactive about this puts you ahead of most people in similar situations.

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As someone who's been through a similar journey, I want to echo what others have said - your SSDI benefits will continue indefinitely after EPE as long as you stay below SGA. I've been post-EPE for about 2 years now and still receive my full monthly payment and Medicare. One thing that really helped me was setting up a simple monthly budget tracker that includes not just my earnings, but also my disability-related expenses. This way I can see at a glance how close I am to SGA and what my actual "countable" income is after IRWEs. I'd also suggest getting any IRWE documentation from your doctors sooner rather than later - things like letters explaining why your orthopedic shoes and transportation accommodations are medically necessary. Having this paperwork ready makes the reporting process much smoother. The most important thing is to stay organized with your reporting and don't let the fear paralyze you from working. The work incentives are there to help us maintain some independence while keeping our safety net. You've got this!

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This is such a comprehensive and helpful summary, Leila! I really appreciate you sharing your post-EPE experience - it's exactly the kind of real-world confirmation I needed to hear. The monthly budget tracker idea that includes both earnings and disability expenses is brilliant. I tend to just focus on my gross earnings and forget about the IRWE deductions, but having it all in one place would definitely give me a clearer picture of where I stand relative to SGA. Your point about getting IRWE documentation from doctors proactively is spot on too. I'm going to reach out to my orthopedist this week to get a letter about my shoe requirements and transportation needs. Thanks for the encouragement about not letting fear paralyze me - this whole thread has really shifted my perspective from anxiety to cautious optimism about long-term sustainability!

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I'm new to this community and just starting my SSDI journey after being approved last month for my neurological condition. This entire discussion has been incredibly eye-opening and reassuring! I had no idea about the Trial Work Period or Extended Period of Eligibility - my case worker barely mentioned these programs during my application process. Reading through everyone's experiences gives me so much hope that I might be able to return to some form of part-time work in the future without jeopardizing my benefits. Right now I'm focused on managing my condition, but knowing that there are these safety nets and work incentives available makes me feel less trapped by my disability. The IRWE information is completely new to me too - I have significant monthly costs for physical therapy and specialized medical equipment that I never realized might factor into earnings calculations. I'm going to start documenting everything now so I'm prepared if I decide to explore work options down the road. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and real experiences. It's so valuable to hear from people who are actually living this rather than just reading policy manuals. This community seems like an amazing resource for navigating these complex systems!

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Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be relevant to your situation - if you're married, you'll also need to think about how your Medicare enrollment timing affects your spouse's HSA eligibility. If you're both covered under the same employer family plan and you enroll in Medicare Part A, your spouse can still contribute to an HSA as long as they're not Medicare-eligible themselves. However, if your spouse is also approaching 65, you'll want to coordinate your Medicare enrollment decisions to maximize both of your HSA contribution opportunities. My wife and I staggered our Medicare enrollments by a year specifically to extend our HSA contribution period, and it worked out really well for building up our healthcare nest egg.

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This is such a helpful perspective! I hadn't even considered the spousal implications. My husband is 62, so we have a few years before he faces the same decision, but coordinating our Medicare enrollment timing to maximize HSA contributions is brilliant. Did you find it complicated to manage having one spouse on Medicare and the other still on employer coverage? And were there any unexpected issues with having different coverage types during that transition year?

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I went through this exact situation two years ago and want to share what I learned. The key insight that saved me thousands was understanding that Medicare Part A enrollment is NOT automatic at 65 if you're still working - that's a common misconception. You have to actively decline it. Here's what I did: I contacted Social Security about 3 months before my 65th birthday to formally decline Medicare enrollment while I continued working. This allowed me to keep contributing to my HSA for another 2.5 years until I retired at 67.5. During that time, I maxed out my HSA contributions and even did catch-up contributions since I was over 55. One critical thing to watch out for: if you ever filed for Social Security retirement benefits (even if you suspended them), you'll be automatically enrolled in Part A at 65 regardless of your work status. This is a trap that catches many people off guard. My recommendation: Call Social Security soon to clarify your enrollment status and formally document your intention to delay Medicare while working. Get everything in writing! The peace of mind is worth it, and you'll avoid any costly mistakes with your HSA.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Justin. This is exactly the kind of frustrating bureaucracy that families shouldn't have to deal with while grieving. You are absolutely correct - your mother's July Social Security payment should NOT be returned to SSA. The rule is crystal clear: beneficiaries are entitled to Social Security benefits for any complete month they were alive, regardless of when the payment is deposited. Since your mother lived through all of July, that payment (deposited in August) rightfully belongs to her estate. Banks often have blanket policies to return ALL Social Security payments when notified of a death, but they're not trained to understand the timing nuances. What you need is official documentation from SSA to override their standard procedure. I'd recommend visiting your local Social Security office in person rather than trying to get through on the phone - the wait times are brutal right now. Bring her death certificate and request written confirmation that the July payment is legitimate. Once you have that documentation, take it to the bank manager (not just a regular teller) and firmly explain that this is not an overpayment. Don't let them bully you into returning money that legally belongs to your mother's estate. You have enough to handle right now without giving up funds that are rightfully yours. Stay strong and advocate for what's correct - the law is on your side here.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Justin. As someone new to this community, I've been reading through this entire thread and I'm amazed by how helpful and knowledgeable everyone has been. It's really heartwarming to see such support during a difficult time. Omar's advice about visiting the local SSA office in person seems to be the consensus from multiple experienced members here - that written documentation appears to be the key to getting the bank to back down from their blanket policy. It's absolutely awful that you have to become an expert in Social Security rules while grieving, but everyone here is right that the July payment belongs to your mother's estate. Don't let the bank intimidate you - you have an entire community backing you up that you're fighting for what's legally yours!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Justin. This is such a common and frustrating issue that adds unnecessary stress during an already overwhelming time. You are absolutely right to question the bank's decision - your mother's July Social Security payment should definitely remain in her estate. The rule is straightforward: Social Security beneficiaries are entitled to benefits for any complete month they lived through, regardless of when the actual payment is deposited. Since your mother was alive for all of July, that payment belongs to her estate, even though it arrived in August after her passing. Banks often have automatic procedures to return ALL Social Security payments upon death notification, but they don't always understand the nuances of the timing rules. What they should be preventing is any August payment (which would typically arrive in September), since she passed away partway through August. Based on what others have shared here, I'd strongly recommend visiting your local Social Security office in person rather than trying to get through on their overwhelmed phone lines. Bring her death certificate and request written documentation confirming that the July payment is legitimate and belongs to her estate. This official paperwork will give you the leverage you need when dealing with the bank manager. Don't let them pressure you into returning money that's rightfully part of your mother's estate. You're dealing with enough right now without having to fight for what's already legally yours. Stand firm - the law is definitely on your side here.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Justin. As someone new to this community, I've been following this entire discussion and I'm really impressed by how knowledgeable and supportive everyone has been. The consensus is clear - you're absolutely right about that July payment belonging to your mother's estate. Giovanni's advice echoes what multiple experienced members have said about getting written documentation from SSA in person. It's really unfortunate that banks don't train their staff better on these Social Security timing rules, especially since this situation must come up frequently. The fact that so many people here have dealt with similar issues shows this is a systemic problem, not something you're doing wrong. Stay strong and don't let the bank pressure you - you have an entire community here confirming that you're fighting for what's legally yours!

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