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Thank you all so much for the helpful information. I'm going to try calling SSA again tomorrow and ask specifically about: 1. The exact amount I would receive if I switch to survivor benefits now vs. at my FRA 2. Whether I should continue with my own benefit or switch to survivor benefits 3. That $255 death benefit I hadn't heard about I'll ask to speak with a technical expert if the representative seems unsure. I'm feeling much more prepared now thanks to all your explanations. I'll update here once I get some answers from SSA.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Isabella. You're asking all the right questions and it sounds like you're getting great advice here. One additional thing to consider - when you call SSA tomorrow, also ask about retroactive benefits. Since your husband passed in February and you're just now getting this sorted out, you may be entitled to survivor benefits dating back to the month after his death. This could result in a lump sum payment for the months you've missed. The SSA doesn't always mention this automatically, so make sure to specifically ask about it. Also, bring a copy of the death certificate when you visit in person if the phone calls don't work out - sometimes having all documentation in hand speeds up the process. Wishing you the best with this difficult situation.

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dont forget about the spending requirements! my cousin was rep payee for her mom and she got in trouble for using the money wrong. u gotta spend it only on your sister and keep all the receipts!

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This is absolutely correct. The SSA has very specific guidelines for how benefits can be used by a representative payee. The order of priority is: 1. Current basic needs (food, shelter, clothing, medical care) 2. Dental care, rehabilitation expenses, and special needs 3. Personal comfort items and recreation needs 4. Savings for future needs Anything that doesn't directly benefit the beneficiary could be considered misuse. Common mistakes include combining funds with your own money, using funds for shared household expenses without clear allocation, or making purchases that primarily benefit someone else. Best practice is maintaining a separate dedicated account solely for her benefits.

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I went through this exact process with my dad last year when he was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. A few things that really helped us: 1. **Documentation timing is critical** - Get all the POA paperwork done NOW while your sister can still understand and sign. We waited just 2 months too long and had to go the guardianship route which cost us $8,000+ and took 6 months. 2. **For the SSA rep payee application** - They'll likely request a "Statement of Claimant's Medical Sources" (Form SSA-787) that her doctors need to fill out. Get this from her neurologist/psychiatrist who diagnosed the dementia - general practitioners sometimes aren't detailed enough for SSA. 3. **Set up a dedicated checking account** for her benefits BEFORE you get approved. This makes the annual reporting so much easier. I use a simple spreadsheet to track every expense with receipt photos. 4. **Contact her Medicare plan administrator** too - rep payee status doesn't automatically give you authority to handle Medicare issues, and you'll likely need to deal with coverage decisions as her condition progresses. The 8-week timeline is pretty accurate in my experience. Hang in there - it's overwhelming at first but getting organized now will save you so much stress later!

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This is incredibly detailed and helpful - thank you so much! I'm definitely going to get that Form SSA-787 from her neurologist this week. I hadn't thought about setting up the dedicated account beforehand, but that makes total sense for tracking purposes. Quick question - when you say "contact her Medicare plan administrator," do you mean her supplemental insurance or Medicare directly? She has a Medicare Advantage plan through Humana.

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To answer your follow-up question: No, if you file for benefits and then suspend them (using the voluntary suspension option available after Full Retirement Age), ALL benefits based on your record - including your daughter's - would stop during the suspension period. This is due to changes made by the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015. So unfortunately, there's no way to "have your cake and eat it too" in this situation. You either: 1. File now at 68 - you get reduced benefits for life but your daughter gets benefits until 18 2. Wait until 70 - you get maximum benefits for life but your daughter gets nothing until you file (by which time she'll be 16, so only 2 years of eligibility) Given your family history of longevity (parents living to their 90s), waiting until 70 might still be your best financial strategy, despite missing out on some child benefits. At age 90, you would have received substantially more by waiting, even accounting for your daughter's benefits.

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This really clarifies things - thank you. Given my family history and the permanent reduction if I file before 70, I'm leaning toward sticking with my original plan to wait. I appreciate everyone's insights and specific details about how this works.

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I'm a newcomer here but have been researching this exact situation for my own family. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the family maximum benefit cap. Social Security has a limit on the total amount that can be paid to a family based on one worker's record - typically 150-180% of the worker's PIA. In your case with just you and your daughter receiving benefits, you probably won't hit this cap, but it's worth asking SSA about when you call. Also, since your wife is still working and younger, you might want to consider how her future benefits factor into your overall retirement income strategy. Another consideration: if your daughter plans to attend college, those child benefits could help with education expenses during her last few years of eligibility. Some families find it helpful to have that guaranteed income stream for college planning, even if the overall math slightly favors waiting until 70. Have you considered doing a consultation with a Social Security claiming strategist? Given the complexity and the dollar amounts involved, it might be worth the fee to get personalized analysis.

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Welcome to the community, Dylan! You raise some excellent points I hadn't fully considered. The college planning angle is particularly interesting - having that predictable income stream during her junior and senior years of high school could definitely help with education expenses. I hadn't thought about consulting with a Social Security strategist, but given the amounts involved and my family's longevity, that professional analysis might be worth the cost. Do you happen to know what those consultations typically run, cost-wise?

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I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation right now! Got approved for SSDI in March 2024 with an onset date in late 2023, and I'm pretty sure my 2023 earnings aren't reflected in my benefit amount either. Reading through all these responses is super helpful - I had no idea about the AERO process or that there was a specific name for what we're waiting for. It's frustrating that SSA doesn't communicate this stuff clearly upfront. Like, a simple notice saying "we'll automatically review your case in October to include any additional earnings" would save everyone so much anxiety. @Ravi - definitely keep us posted on what happens! I'm planning to wait until mid-December before calling, based on what everyone's saying here. Fingers crossed we both get those retroactive payments!

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I'm also in a similar boat - got approved earlier this year and suspect my recent earnings aren't included! It's really frustrating how unclear SSA is about these processes. I had no idea about AERO either until reading this thread. The lack of communication from SSA about what to expect timeline-wise is honestly one of the most stressful parts of this whole experience. Thanks for mentioning you'll keep us posted - I'm curious to see how both your cases turn out. Definitely going to bookmark this thread and follow the December timeline advice everyone's shared!

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Just wanted to add another perspective here - I work as a disability advocate and see this issue come up frequently. The AERO process that Omar mentioned is real, but it's not as reliable as it should be. In my experience, about 30-40% of cases that should get automatic recomputations don't happen on schedule. A few additional tips: 1. Document everything - keep records of your 2023 earnings (W2s, tax returns, etc.) 2. If you do call SSA, ask for a case summary to be sent to you in writing 3. Consider filing a written request for recomputation if phone calls don't work - sometimes written requests get processed differently The most important thing is to be persistent but patient. SSA is understaffed and these recomputations can take time to process even when they do them. But you're absolutely entitled to have all your earnings years properly considered, so don't give up! Also, for those mentioning congressional help - that's a great nuclear option if SSA isn't responsive after multiple attempts.

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As someone who just started receiving Social Security benefits a few months ago, I can totally relate to your confusion! That small payment is completely normal - it's what they call a "partial month benefit." I received something similar ($201.50) about two weeks before my first full payment arrived. It represents the prorated amount for the partial month when your benefits officially began. One tip that really helped me was downloading the SSA Mobile app in addition to setting up the online account others mentioned. It sends push notifications when payments are deposited, which helped me track everything during those first few months when I wasn't sure what to expect. For the Medicare transition, I'd recommend calling Medicare directly at 1-800-MEDICARE in addition to monitoring your bank statements. They can tell you exactly when they expect the automatic withdrawals to stop. In my case, it took about 6 weeks for the transition to complete, and having both SSA and Medicare confirm the timing gave me peace of mind. Congratulations on your retirement approval - the first few months of figuring everything out can be overwhelming, but it gets much easier once you understand the system!

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Thanks so much for the detailed explanation and the tip about the SSA Mobile app! I didn't know there was a mobile app with push notifications - that sounds incredibly useful for keeping track of payments. I'm definitely going to download it today. Your suggestion about calling Medicare directly is also really smart. I was only planning to monitor through SSA, but having both agencies confirm the transition timing makes total sense. It's reassuring to hear from someone who just went through this process that it does get easier once you understand how everything works. The first few months really do feel overwhelming with all the new systems to navigate!

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Congratulations on your Social Security approval! As someone who works with benefits administration, I can confirm that small partial payments like yours are completely standard when benefits begin mid-month or there's a processing timing difference. The $183.75 you received is prorated based on your exact entitlement start date, and it won't affect your full January payment at all. For the Medicare premium transition, here's what I always tell people: Set up a simple tracking system for the next 3 months. Note the date and amount of any Medicare withdrawals from your bank, and compare that to what's deducted from your SS payment. The transition usually takes 30-60 days, but the overlap period is when double-charging happens most often. If you see both charges in the same month, don't wait - call SSA immediately at 1-800-772-1213 and ask for a "Medicare Premium Refund" (use those exact words). Also, your Medicare premium should be $174.70 for 2025 unless you have a higher income. Keep that number handy when checking your statements. The automated phone system others mentioned is great for checking payment details without the long hold times!

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Thank you so much for the professional insight! It's really helpful to get confirmation from someone who works in benefits administration. I love your suggestion about setting up a tracking system - that's exactly the kind of organized approach I need to feel confident about managing this transition. I'm going to create a simple spreadsheet to track both the bank withdrawals and SS deductions so I can spot any double-charging immediately. And noting down that exact phrase "Medicare Premium Refund" is brilliant - having the right terminology can make such a difference when calling government agencies. I really appreciate you taking the time to share such detailed and practical advice!

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