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Sophia Long

Will selling my business vehicle count toward Social Security earnings limit of $22,300?

I'm 64 and receiving Social Security retirement benefits while still running my small consulting business. I know I'm subject to the $22,300 earnings limit for 2024, and I've been careful to keep my net 1099 income (after business expenses) below that threshold. However, I just sold a truck I was using exclusively for business purposes and will have about $10,000 in capital gains from that sale after accounting for depreciation recapture. I'm getting conflicting advice from friends about whether this $10K counts toward my earnings limit. My understanding is that capital gains from selling business equipment are NOT considered "earnings" for Social Security purposes, so they shouldn't count toward the $22,300 limit. Can anyone confirm if I'm right about this? I'm worried about unexpected benefit reductions if I'm wrong.

You're correct. Capital gains (including depreciation recapture) from selling business assets are NOT counted toward the Social Security earnings test limit. The earnings test only counts wages and net earnings from self-employment (your actual business activity). The $10K from selling your business vehicle is considered investment income, not earnings from work. Keep good records of the sale and how you calculated the gain in case questions come up later.

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Sophia Long

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Thank you so much! That's a relief. I'll definitely keep detailed records of the sale. Just to be absolutely sure - this applies even though the vehicle was used in my business and I had been taking depreciation deductions on it previously?

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omg the SS earnings test is so confusing!!! i thought anything from ur business counts?? now im confused about my situation too

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The earnings test specifically looks at wages or net earnings from self-employment - meaning income from *active* work you're performing. Capital gains, interest, dividends, pension payments, investment income, and even lottery winnings don't count toward the earnings limit because they're not tied to current work activity. Hope that helps clarify!

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Lucas Bey

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My tax accountant specifically addressed this for me last year. Capital gains from business asset sales (including recaptured depreciation) do NOT count toward the Social Security earnings test. However, they do count as income for determining whether your Social Security benefits are taxable. So while you're good regarding the earnings limit, you might need to pay more tax on your benefits depending on your total income. Something to be aware of!

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Sophia Long

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That's a really important distinction - thank you! I hadn't even thought about the taxation of benefits aspect. Looks like I need to set aside some extra money for taxes next year.

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I WENT THROUGH THIS EXACT SAME THING in 2023 and the SSA rep I talked to gave me WRONG information! He told me it counted and they reduced my benefits!!!! I had to fight for 5 months to get my money back when they finally admitted it shouldn't have counted. The SSA reps don't even understand their own rules half the time!!

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Caleb Stark

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Same here - the SSA people told me 2 different things when i called twice about something similar. its ridiculous how nobody seems to know the actual rules

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This is a common question with a clear answer: The earnings test only counts wages and net self-employment income from active business operations. Capital gains from selling business assets are excluded from the earnings test calculation. SSA's Program Operations Manual System (POMS) section RS 02505.240 explicitly addresses this, stating that certain types of income are not included in the retirement test, including "capital gains and losses." Just make sure you're properly documenting the sale as a business asset transaction on your tax return.

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Does this mean that if I sell stocks from my investment account, that won't count toward the earnings test limit either? I'm still working part-time and collecting SS early.

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Correct. Stock sales and the resulting capital gains do not count toward the earnings test limit regardless of whether they're personal or business investments. The earnings test only looks at income from current work activity.

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Lucas Bey

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To add a bit more detail: For 2024, if you're under FRA the entire year, Social Security will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above $22,300. If you reach FRA during 2024, they withhold $1 for every $3 earned above $59,520 (but only count earnings before the month you reach FRA). After you reach FRA, the earnings test no longer applies.

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Jade O'Malley

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Just to clarify another important point: While the $10K from selling your vehicle won't count toward the earnings test, you should be aware that any business income you earn between now and the month you reach full retirement age will still be subject to the earnings limit. The month you reach FRA, the earnings limit disappears completely. Many people don't realize this and think they're subject to the limit for the entire calendar year they reach FRA.

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Sophia Long

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Thanks for that clarification. I don't reach my FRA until early 2026, so I'll need to keep monitoring my self-employment income carefully for all of 2024 and 2025. I'm tracking my net income monthly to make sure I stay under the limits.

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Caleb Stark

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my brother had the same issue when he sold his business truck and ss didnt count it against him so your probably ok

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did he have to provide any special documentation or anything when he filed his taxes to make sure SSA understood it was a capital gain?

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Lucas Bey

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I recommend documenting everything clearly on your tax forms. Make sure the gain from the vehicle sale is properly reported on Form 4797 (Sales of Business Property) rather than being mixed with your regular Schedule C business income. This keeps it clearly separated from your self-employment earnings that count toward the limit. I've found that proper tax form completion prevents a lot of headaches with SSA later.

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Sophia Long

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That's excellent advice - thank you! I'll make sure my accountant knows to keep it properly separated on Form 4797. Documentation seems to be key here.

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As someone who just went through this process myself, I can confirm that capital gains from selling business assets absolutely do NOT count toward the Social Security earnings limit. I sold some equipment from my consulting business last year and was initially worried about the same thing. The key distinction is that the earnings test only applies to income from active work - wages and net self-employment income from ongoing business operations. Capital gains, even from business assets, are considered investment income rather than earnings from work. Just make sure you keep good records of the sale price, your basis in the vehicle, and any depreciation you've claimed over the years. Your accountant should report it properly on Form 4797 to keep it separate from your Schedule C business income. You're smart to be cautious about staying under the limit, but this particular transaction won't affect your Social Security benefits at all.

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Maya Diaz

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This is really helpful to hear from someone who just went through it! I'm feeling much more confident now that multiple people have confirmed the same thing. Quick question - did you have any issues with SSA or did they automatically understand that it wasn't counted toward the earnings limit when you filed your taxes? I'm just trying to prepare for any potential follow-up questions they might have.

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I'm in a similar situation and have been tracking this issue closely. One thing I'd add is that you should also be aware of how the depreciation recapture portion gets treated. While the entire gain (including depreciation recapture) doesn't count toward the Social Security earnings limit, the depreciation recapture portion is taxed as ordinary income rather than capital gains rates. This won't affect your SS benefits but could push you into a higher tax bracket. Also, if you're getting close to the combined income thresholds that determine taxation of Social Security benefits ($25K single/$32K married), this extra income could make more of your benefits taxable even though it doesn't count toward the earnings test. It's one of those quirky situations where the same income is treated differently for different purposes within the Social Security system.

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Aisha Mahmood

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This is such a helpful breakdown of the tax implications! I hadn't considered how the depreciation recapture would be taxed differently even though it doesn't affect the earnings limit. It sounds like I need to prepare for potentially owing more in taxes overall, even if my SS benefits aren't reduced. The distinction between how income affects the earnings test versus benefit taxation is definitely confusing - thanks for explaining that clearly!

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