Can I avoid Social Security earnings limit by contributing to solo 401k? Early retirement question
I took early retirement at age 62 back in January and just found out my annual SS benefits will be about $25,000. I understand there's an earnings limit where I can only make around $23,000 before they start reducing my benefits (the 2025 limit I think?). Here's my situation - I sell collectibles online through my small business (just me, sole proprietor) and report income on my SS#. Business is picking up and I might go over that earnings limit by $10-15k this year. Would putting excess earnings into a solo 401k help me avoid the earnings limit reduction? For example, if I make $35,000 from my business but contribute $12,000 to a solo 401k, would SS only count the $23,000 as earnings? Or do they count the full amount before retirement contributions? I'm trying to figure out how to keep my small business going without losing SS benefits. Any guidance would be super helpful!
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Mateo Warren
Yes, you can absolutely reduce your countable income for the Social Security earnings test by making contributions to a solo 401(k)! This is because SSA looks at your gross earnings AFTER business deductions, which includes your contributions to qualified retirement plans. The earnings test looks at your net earnings from self-employment, not your gross revenue. So contributions to a solo 401(k) would reduce the income that counts toward that $23,080 limit for 2025. This is one of the best strategies for self-employed early retirees to maximize both their income and SS benefits before reaching full retirement age. Just make sure you properly set up the solo 401(k) and follow contribution limits.
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Lydia Bailey
•That's fantastic news! So if I understand correctly, I could potentially earn $40k from my business, put $17k into the solo 401k, and stay right at the earnings limit without any benefit reduction? Does that sound right?
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Sofia Price
my brother tried this last year with his plumbing business and it WORKED!!! made like 45k but only counted like 22k after all the stuff he put in retirement and some business expenses. SS never reduced his checks at all. good luck!!!
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Alice Coleman
•That's great for your brother, but every situation is different and the SSA sometimes comes back years later with overpayment notices if they think you've misreported!! I've seen people get hit with HUGE bills 3 years later when SSA finally matches up IRS records. BE CAREFUL and get professional advice!!!!
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Owen Jenkins
Be very careful here. While retirement plan contributions can reduce your countable income for the earnings test, it's more complicated with self-employment. The Social Security Administration looks at your net earnings from self-employment, which is calculated differently than taxable income. For self-employment, they take your net profit (after business expenses) and multiply by 0.9235 to determine countable earnings. Solo 401(k) contributions are indeed business deductions that reduce this amount. I'd recommend speaking directly with a Social Security representative to confirm how they'll treat your specific situation. The calculations can get tricky, especially with self-employment income.
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Lydia Bailey
•Thank you for that detailed explanation. I've been trying to reach SSA by phone for days but keep getting disconnected or facing hours-long wait times. Is there a better way to get through to an actual person who can advise on this? I really need to get this right before I make any decisions.
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Lilah Brooks
I've been in your exact situation! The short answer is YES - solo 401k contributions reduce your countable income for the earnings test. I was able to continue my side business after early retirement by using this strategy. When you're struggling to get through to SSA for confirmation (and we all know how impossible their phone lines are), try Claimyr.com - it's a service that gets you through to a real SSA agent without the endless waiting. I used their service to confirm this exact question last year and had an answer in under 30 minutes. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Just make sure you document everything carefully. The key is that contributions to a solo 401k are considered business expenses that reduce your net earnings from self-employment.
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Lydia Bailey
•I'll definitely look into that service - at this point I'm desperate to talk to someone at SSA who can confirm this for my specific situation. Thanks for the recommendation!
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Jackson Carter
whats the difference between solo401k and regular 401k? i thought u need employees to have 401k
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Owen Jenkins
•A solo 401(k), also called an individual 401(k), is specifically designed for self-employed individuals with no employees (other than possibly a spouse). It allows you to contribute as both the employer AND employee, potentially allowing for higher contribution limits than many other retirement plans. You don't need multiple employees to establish one - that's why they're popular with sole proprietors, independent contractors, and small business owners with no employees.
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Kolton Murphy
Wait I'm confused. Isn't SSI different from regular Social Security? Does the earnings limit apply to both? I get SSDI and they told me different rules apply for disability vs retirement benefits.
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Mateo Warren
•You're right to be confused - there are several different Social Security programs with different rules. The original post is about regular Social Security retirement benefits, which have an earnings limit if you claim before your Full Retirement Age (FRA). SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance) has completely different rules with a much lower earnings threshold called Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA). SSI (Supplemental Security Income) has yet another set of income rules and resource limits since it's a needs-based program. The strategy being discussed about 401(k) contributions only applies to the retirement benefits earnings test.
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Alice Coleman
THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RIGGED! Why should we be penalized for working at all?? I took early retirement at 62 also and lost THOUSANDS because I worked part-time. The government STEALS our money after we paid in our whole lives!!! The earnings limit is THEFT plain and simple!!
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Sofia Price
•once u hit full retirement age they stop the earnings limit completely, my dad is 67 and works full time plus gets his full ss check every month with no reduction.
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Mateo Warren
•While it can feel unfair, it's worth noting that if your benefits are reduced due to the earnings limit, you actually get that money back later. Once you reach Full Retirement Age, Social Security recalculates your benefit amount to credit you for the months when benefits were withheld. So you're not permanently losing that money - it's more like a deferral.
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Lydia Bailey
Thank you everyone for the helpful information! I've learned so much about how this works. To summarize what I understand now: 1. Solo 401k contributions CAN reduce my countable income for the SS earnings test 2. As a self-employed person, SSA looks at my net profit after business deductions 3. I need to be careful with documentation and might want to confirm with SSA directly 4. This strategy is legal and specifically helpful for self-employed early retirees I'm going to set up a solo 401k and aim to keep my countable income under the limit. This will let me grow my online business without worrying about benefit reductions. Really appreciate all the guidance!
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Owen Jenkins
•Great summary! One additional tip: consider working with an accountant who specializes in self-employment and retirement planning. They can help structure your business expenses and retirement contributions optimally. Also, keep detailed records of everything in case SSA ever questions your earnings reports. Good luck with your online business!
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Eli Butler
Just wanted to add that timing matters too! If you're planning to make solo 401k contributions to stay under the earnings limit, make sure you actually make those contributions during the tax year, not just plan to make them. SSA looks at actual contributions made, not just intended ones. Also, don't forget about the quarterly estimated tax payments if your business income is picking up. Since you're self-employed, you'll want to stay current with those to avoid penalties, especially if you're contributing large amounts to the solo 401k. One more thing - if your collectibles business really takes off, you might want to consider whether incorporating (LLC or S-Corp) could provide additional tax advantages, though that's a whole different conversation with more complexity. Sounds like you've got a solid plan though! The solo 401k strategy is definitely one of the best ways for self-employed folks to manage the early retirement earnings limit.
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Anastasia Sokolov
As someone who went through this exact situation two years ago, I can confirm this strategy works beautifully! I was earning around $38k from my freelance consulting business and was worried about losing SS benefits after taking early retirement at 62. My accountant set up a solo 401k and I was able to contribute $15k, bringing my countable earnings down to $23k - right under the limit. The key things I learned: 1. Set up the solo 401k BEFORE the end of the tax year you want to make contributions 2. You can contribute up to 25% of your net self-employment income (after the SE tax deduction) 3. Keep meticulous records - I track every business expense and retirement contribution 4. The solo 401k also reduces your self-employment tax, so it's a double win The peace of mind knowing I can keep working without losing benefits has been incredible. Just make sure you work with someone who understands both the SSA rules AND the solo 401k contribution limits - they're not the same thing and you want to maximize both benefits. Your collectibles business sounds like it has great potential - this strategy will let you grow it without the stress of benefit reductions!
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Mateo Sanchez
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your real-world experience! I'm especially glad to hear from someone who actually went through this process successfully. A couple of quick questions if you don't mind: 1. When you say "set up the solo 401k BEFORE the end of the tax year" - does that mean I need to have it established by December 31st, or can I set it up early next year and still make contributions for 2025? 2. Did you run into any issues with SSA questioning your earnings calculations, or did they accept your reported income without problems? Your point about keeping meticulous records is well taken - I'm already pretty organized with my collectibles business records, but I'll definitely step that up once I get the solo 401k established. Thanks again for the encouraging words about growing the business!
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Philip Cowan
•Great questions! For the solo 401k setup timing, you actually have until the tax filing deadline (including extensions) to make contributions for a given tax year, BUT the plan itself needs to be established by December 31st of the tax year you want to contribute for. So for 2025 contributions, you'd need the solo 401k set up by Dec 31, 2025, but could make the actual contribution as late as April 15, 2026 (or October if you file an extension). As for SSA questioning anything - they've never contacted me directly about my earnings reports. I file my Schedule C showing my net profit after all business deductions (including the solo 401k contribution), and that's what gets reported to SSA automatically. The key is making sure everything matches up between your tax return and what SSA has on file. One thing I forgot to mention - if your collectibles business keeps growing, you might hit the solo 401k employee contribution limit ($23,500 for 2025, or $31,000 if you're 50+). But you can also make employer contributions on top of that, up to 25% of your net self-employment income. Between both, I was able to contribute much more than I initially thought possible!
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Owen Devar
This is such valuable information for anyone in early retirement! I'm 64 and considering starting a small consulting business but was worried about the earnings limit. Reading through all these responses has really opened my eyes to the solo 401k strategy. One thing I'm curious about - for those of you who have successfully used this approach, how do you handle the timing of income and contributions throughout the year? Do you make quarterly contributions to stay under the limit as you go, or do you wait until the end of the year to see your total income and then make a lump sum contribution? I'm thinking it might be safer to make regular contributions throughout the year to avoid accidentally going over the limit, but I'm not sure if that's the most practical approach. Would love to hear how others have managed this timing issue!
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Liam McGuire
•Great question about timing! As someone new to this whole strategy, I'm wondering the same thing. From what I've been reading here, it seems like there might be flexibility since you have until the tax filing deadline to make the actual contributions, but I'd imagine you'd want to be conservative and not risk going over the earnings limit during the year. Maybe a hybrid approach would work? Like making smaller quarterly contributions based on your projected income, then adjusting with a final contribution at year-end once you know your exact numbers? That way you're staying safe throughout the year but can fine-tune everything before the deadline. I'm definitely going to ask about this when I set up my solo 401k. The timing aspect seems crucial for making this strategy work smoothly, especially if your business income varies throughout the year like mine probably will with the collectibles sales.
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Demi Lagos
I'm in a similar boat - just turned 62 and considering claiming early SS while keeping my small photography business running. This thread has been incredibly enlightening! The solo 401k strategy sounds like exactly what I need. One question I haven't seen addressed yet: if you're already receiving SS benefits and then set up a solo 401k mid-year, how does that affect the earnings test calculation? Do they look at your earnings from the entire year, or just from when you started receiving benefits? Also, for anyone who's done this - how long did it take to actually set up the solo 401k? I'm worried about timing if I need to get it established quickly to make contributions for this tax year. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world advice that's impossible to find anywhere else!
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Brianna Muhammad
•Great questions about mid-year setup! From what I understand, SSA looks at your total earnings for the entire calendar year, not just from when you started receiving benefits. So if you claim SS in June but had earnings from January-May, those earlier earnings still count toward the annual limit. As for solo 401k setup timing - most providers can get you established pretty quickly, often within 1-2 weeks if you have all your paperwork ready. I'd recommend starting the process ASAP since you need it established by December 31st to make contributions for the current tax year. Fidelity, Schwab, and Vanguard all offer solo 401k plans and have pretty streamlined setup processes. Your photography business sounds like a perfect fit for this strategy! Creative businesses often have variable income throughout the year, which makes the flexibility of year-end contribution adjustments really valuable. Just make sure to track your net earnings carefully as you go so you can plan your contribution amounts.
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Yara Assad
This has been such an informative thread! As someone who's been hesitating about claiming early SS benefits at 62 because of my part-time bookkeeping business, I'm now seriously considering it thanks to learning about the solo 401k strategy. I had no idea that retirement plan contributions could reduce your countable income for the earnings test - my financial advisor never mentioned this option! It sounds like this could be a game-changer for many of us who want to keep working in some capacity after claiming early benefits. For those who have successfully implemented this approach, did you find that financial advisors were familiar with this strategy, or did you have to educate them about how it works? I'm wondering if I should specifically look for someone who specializes in Social Security planning and self-employment tax issues. Also, this might be a basic question, but if you're contributing to a solo 401k to stay under the earnings limit, are you still able to take advantage of other business deductions (home office, equipment, etc.) on top of the retirement contributions? It seems like maximizing all possible deductions would be key to making this strategy work effectively. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - this community is an incredible resource for navigating these complex decisions!
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Holly Lascelles
•Welcome to the conversation! You're absolutely right that this strategy isn't widely known - I had never heard of it either until I stumbled across discussions like this one. Regarding financial advisors, I'd definitely recommend finding someone who specializes in Social Security optimization AND self-employment tax planning. Many general financial advisors aren't familiar with the nuances of how retirement plan contributions interact with the SSA earnings test. You might want to look for an Enrolled Agent (EA) or CPA who works with a lot of self-employed clients - they tend to be much more knowledgeable about these strategies. And yes, you can absolutely stack the solo 401k contributions with other business deductions! The solo 401k contribution is just one of many legitimate business expenses you can deduct. Your home office, equipment, supplies, professional development, business insurance - all of those reduce your net profit just like the retirement contribution does. The key is that SSA looks at your net earnings from self-employment after ALL business deductions, so maximizing everything helps keep you under that earnings limit. Your bookkeeping business sounds perfect for this approach since you probably already understand the importance of tracking deductions carefully. Best of luck with your decision!
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Yara Abboud
This thread has been absolutely incredible - thank you all for sharing such detailed real-world experiences! I'm 63 and have been putting off claiming SS benefits because I wasn't sure how to handle my small Etsy craft business earnings. Reading through everyone's experiences with the solo 401k strategy has given me the confidence to move forward. One thing I want to emphasize for other newcomers like me: the peace of mind aspect of this approach is huge. I've been stressed for months about the earnings limit, constantly calculating and recalculating my projected income. Knowing that I have this tool to manage my countable earnings takes so much pressure off. For anyone just learning about this strategy, here are the key takeaways I'm noting: - Solo 401k contributions reduce your net self-employment earnings for SSA purposes - You need to establish the plan by Dec 31 but can contribute until tax filing deadline - Keep detailed records of everything - Consider working with a professional who understands both SSA rules and self-employment tax I'm planning to set up my solo 401k next week and claim my benefits in the new year. This community has been more helpful than any financial advisor I've spoken with - thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experiences!
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Ian Armstrong
•Thank you for that excellent summary! As someone who's also been wrestling with the earnings limit anxiety, I completely relate to the peace of mind aspect you mentioned. It's amazing how a strategy like this can transform what feels like an impossible choice between working and claiming benefits into a manageable planning exercise. Your bullet points are spot-on and really helpful for anyone just discovering this approach. I'd add one more based on what I've learned from this thread: don't be afraid to ask detailed questions when setting up your solo 401k - the customer service reps at the major brokerages (Fidelity, Schwab, etc.) are usually pretty knowledgeable about the self-employment aspects. Your Etsy business sounds like it would be perfect for this strategy, especially since craft businesses often have seasonal income variations that make year-end contribution adjustments really valuable. Best of luck with both setting up your solo 401k and claiming your benefits - you've got a solid plan in place!
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Heather Tyson
As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire discussion has been! I'm 62 and was completely unaware that solo 401k contributions could help with the Social Security earnings limit situation. I run a small online tutoring business and have been avoiding claiming my SS benefits because I was worried about the earnings test. Reading through everyone's real experiences - especially hearing from people like Anastasia who actually went through this process successfully - has been more valuable than all the generic advice articles I've read online. The level of detail shared here about timing, record-keeping, working with the right professionals, and the actual mechanics of how SSA calculates net earnings is exactly what I needed to hear. I'm particularly grateful for the warnings about keeping meticulous documentation and the tips about finding advisors who specialize in both SSA rules and self-employment tax issues. I'm planning to start the solo 401k setup process next week. This thread has given me the confidence to move forward with claiming my benefits while continuing to grow my tutoring business. Thank you all for creating such a supportive and informative community for those of us navigating these complex early retirement decisions!
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Molly Hansen
•Welcome to the community, Heather! Your tutoring business sounds like it would be an excellent fit for this strategy. Online tutoring often has flexible income patterns throughout the year, which makes the solo 401k approach particularly valuable since you can adjust your contributions based on your actual earnings. One thing that might be especially relevant for your tutoring business - if you're using platforms like Wyzant or Tutor.com, make sure you understand how they report your earnings (1099-NEC vs other forms) since this affects how you calculate your net self-employment income. Also, don't forget that tutoring-related expenses like educational materials, software subscriptions, and even a portion of your internet bill can be business deductions that further reduce your countable earnings. The combination of maximizing business deductions AND the solo 401k contributions gives you a lot of flexibility to manage your earnings under the SSA limit while building your retirement savings. Best of luck with both the setup process and growing your tutoring business!
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Sofia Martinez
This is such a fantastic resource! I'm 62 and just started receiving SS benefits last month, but I've been hesitant to pursue some freelance graphic design opportunities because I was terrified of accidentally going over the earnings limit. Reading through everyone's experiences with the solo 401k strategy has been eye-opening. I had heard about solo 401ks before but never understood how they could help with the Social Security earnings test. The fact that contributions count as business deductions that reduce your net self-employment income makes perfect sense now! I'm particularly grateful for the practical tips shared here about timing (establishing the plan by Dec 31st), record-keeping, and finding the right professionals to work with. As someone who's been out of the workforce for a few years, navigating all these rules felt overwhelming, but this community has made it seem much more manageable. I'm planning to contact Fidelity next week to set up a solo 401k so I can start taking on some design projects without worrying about benefit reductions. Thank you all for sharing your knowledge and real-world experiences - this is exactly the kind of practical guidance that's impossible to find elsewhere!
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NeonNomad
•Welcome Sofia! Your graphic design freelance work sounds like it would be perfect for this strategy. One thing that's particularly great about design work is that you often have significant business expenses (software subscriptions, equipment, professional development courses, etc.) that can further reduce your net self-employment income alongside the solo 401k contributions. Since you're already receiving benefits, you'll want to be extra careful about tracking your earnings throughout the year so you don't accidentally exceed the limit before making your solo 401k contribution. Consider setting up a simple spreadsheet to monitor your monthly net earnings and projected annual total - this will help you know when you might need to make quarterly contributions versus waiting until year-end. Fidelity is a great choice for solo 401k setup - they have excellent customer service and their representatives are usually knowledgeable about self-employment situations. When you call, make sure to mention that you're self-employed and want to use the plan to manage Social Security earnings test implications. They should be able to guide you through the process smoothly. Best of luck with your design projects! It's wonderful that this strategy will let you get back into creative work without the stress of benefit reductions.
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Andrew Pinnock
This has been an absolutely incredible thread to read as someone new to both this community and the whole early retirement/Social Security benefits world! I'm 62 and have been on the fence about claiming my SS benefits because I have a small consulting business that I wasn't sure how to handle with the earnings limit. The solo 401k strategy is completely new to me - I had no idea that retirement plan contributions could reduce your countable income for the earnings test. Reading through all the real-world experiences shared here, especially from people like Anastasia and others who have successfully implemented this approach, has been more helpful than months of trying to research this on my own. What really stands out to me is how this strategy transforms what seemed like an either/or decision (claim benefits OR keep working) into a manageable planning opportunity. The fact that you can continue growing your business while maximizing both current income and retirement savings is brilliant. I'm planning to set up a solo 401k with Schwab next week and finally claim my benefits. The detailed advice about timing, record-keeping, and finding the right professionals has given me a clear roadmap forward. Thank you all for creating such a supportive community for those of us navigating these complex decisions - this is exactly the kind of practical guidance that makes all the difference!
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