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Social Security earnings limit confusion with eBay self-employment income - how to report monthly?

I just started collecting Social Security retirement benefits at 62 this January and received my first payment in February. I'm confused about the monthly earnings limit since I sell items on eBay as my only income source now. Some months I might make $1,500, others maybe just $300-400. I don't track my income monthly - I just do a Schedule C at tax time showing my annual profit. I know there's a $22,320 annual limit for 2025 before they start reducing benefits, but how does SSA track this when I don't get regular paychecks? Do they somehow calculate a monthly average from my yearly tax return? And what about the hours worked part? I spend different amounts of time each month photographing, listing, and shipping items - there's no hourly wage to report. I'm worried I might accidentally go over some monthly limit without knowing it and then face a huge overpayment later. Has anyone dealt with reporting self-employment income to Social Security while collecting early retirement benefits?

Yep, had the same issue with my Amazon selling business. SSA looks at the NET earnings from self-employment (after expenses) divided by the months you worked. So if u worked all year, they divide by 12 even if some months were way more profitable than others. Keep REALLY good records of your hours worked each month - I learned this the hard way when they asked me to prove I wasn't working too many hours in certain months!

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Hassan Khoury

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Thanks for replying! I'm not sure how to track "hours worked" since this isn't like a normal job - sometimes I'm just answering buyer questions for 5 minutes here and there throughout the day. Do they have a specific form for tracking hours?

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Benjamin Kim

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Self-employment income and Social Security's earnings test is often misunderstood. Here's how it works: 1. For retirement benefits before Full Retirement Age (FRA), SSA applies the earnings test to your net earnings from self-employment (profit after business expenses). 2. For the annual earnings test, they divide your yearly self-employment income by the number of months you performed "substantial services" in your business. This doesn't necessarily mean every month you had sales. 3. The monthly earnings test only applies for the first year you claim benefits. After that first year, only the annual test matters. 4. For determining "substantial services" in self-employment, SSA considers: - Hours worked (over 45 hours/month is always substantial; 15-45 depends on skill required) - Nature of services provided - How comparable your work is to what you did before retirement SSA Publication No. 05-10069 explains this in detail. You should keep a monthly log of hours worked and business activities to document your involvement.

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Hassan Khoury

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This is really helpful, thank you! I hadn't heard about the "substantial services" part before. So if I understand correctly, in my first year (2025), they'll look at my monthly work activity, but in 2026 and beyond, they'll just look at my total annual earnings? That makes me feel a little better.

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I just wanna say SS is a NIGHTMARE with self-employment!!! I had my benefits reduced last year bcuz they said I worked too much in my Etsy shop even tho I made less than the limit overall. Make sure u document EVERYTHING and good luck dealing with them!!

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Same here! They counted inventory I purchased as "substantial services" even though I was just buying stuff in bulk when I found good deals. The whole system seems designed to punish entrepreneurs.

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Sarah Ali

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You're right to be concerned about this. The SSA doesn't automatically know your monthly earnings - they typically find out when your tax return is processed. If you exceed the annual limit, they'll calculate an overpayment. For the monthly test (which only applies in your first year on benefits), you need to be proactive. Here's what I recommend: 1. Track your monthly net earnings (income minus expenses) and hours worked 2. Contact your local SSA office if you have a month that exceeds the monthly limit ($1,860 for 2025) 3. Consider using the SSA's voluntary reporting form (SSA-131) for months you exceed the limit Most importantly, remember that only the months you perform "substantial services" count. So if you spend minimal time (under 15 hours) on your business in some months, those months might not even count against you regardless of sales.

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Hassan Khoury

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I didn't know about the SSA-131 form - that sounds like exactly what I need! I'll look into downloading it. Do you know if I need to submit it every month or just for months where I might be close to the limit?

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Ryan Vasquez

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I went through this exact situation when I started my SS at 63 while running my online collectibles business. Trying to call Social Security to get clear answers was impossible - I spent DAYS on hold only to get disconnected or told different things by different reps. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a real SSA agent in about 20 minutes instead of waiting for hours. The agent walked me through exactly how to document my self-employment activity and explained the substantial services rules. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU After that call, I learned I needed to keep a simple log of hours worked per month and note my business activities. SSA actually cares more about your work activity than the fluctuating income in self-employment cases.

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Avery Saint

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does it really work? i've been trying to talk to someone at ssa for weeks! might try this if it actually gets you thru

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Ryan Vasquez

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Yes, it worked great for me. I was skeptical too but was desperate after spending so much time on hold. The SSA rep I spoke with was actually helpful once I finally got through.

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One more thing i forgot to mention - when I talked to SSA they said that my eBay business counts as an "ongoing business" so i'm considerd to be providing services every month even if i don't make a sale that month. Its not like a job where u can just say "I didn't work these months" if ur still maintaining the business presence. just something to think about

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This is why the whole system is RIGGED against small business owners!! If u have a W2 job its cut and dry but with self employment they make all these crazy assumptions!!!

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Hassan Khoury

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Update: I called my local SS office (finally got through after trying different times of day) and got some clarification. The rep said I should: 1. Keep a simple monthly log of hours spent on eBay business activities 2. Track both my gross sales and estimated expenses by month 3. Use the SSA-131 form to report any months where I either work more than 45 hours OR make net profit above the monthly limit ($1,860) She said after my first year on benefits, they'll only look at my annual total from Schedule C, but for this first year, they look at it month by month. Thanks everyone for your help!

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Sarah Ali

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That's excellent! Sounds like you got a knowledgeable representative. One additional tip: save screenshots of your monthly eBay sales reports along with receipts for expenses. If you ever get questioned later, having that documentation ready will make the process much smoother.

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Im in the same boat with my Poshmark business and what I do is guesstimate my hours each week and write them down in a planner. For income I just download the monthly sales report and subtract fees+shipping costs+cost of items. It's not perfect but my tax guy said it should be fine if SSA ever questions me. The whole system is so confusing though!!!!

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Avery Saint

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thats smart. i just started etsy and am worried about all this too when i apply for ss next year

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