Self-employed therapist at 62 - How do SS earnings limits apply to my private practice?
I'm approaching 62 in March and trying to figure out if collecting Social Security early is even realistic with my situation. I'm a self-employed mental health counselor with my own private practice (just me, no staff). I bill insurance companies directly and receive 1099s, not W-2s. My big confusion: I know SS has that substantial earnings limit where you can only make $22,320/year before they start deducting benefits. But I've also read something about a "15 hours per week" rule for self-employed people? Does this mean I could theoretically work 15 hours or less weekly seeing clients but still earn over the yearly limit without penalty? Or does the dollar amount always apply regardless? Also, I'm honestly getting burned out after 25+ years in this field. If I gradually reduce my client load over the next 4-5 years (regardless of whether I take SS early), how will this income reduction affect what I'll get at my Full Retirement Age (66 and 8 months)? Will my benefit amount drop significantly if my Schedule C shows lower income these final working years? The SSA website explanations about self-employment are so confusing I just end up more lost every time I read them.
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Oliver Schulz
The 15-hour rule isn't what you think. For self-employed individuals, Social Security uses both an income test AND an activity test. Even if you work under 15 hours per week, if your earnings exceed the annual limit ($22,320 for 2025), they'll still reduce your benefits $1 for every $2 over the limit. The 15-hour guideline is part of how SSA determines if you've actually "retired" when your earnings are questionable, but it doesn't override the earnings limit. It's primarily used when self-employed people try to artificially lower their income while still working substantially. Regarding your FRA benefit amount - SSA calculates your benefit based on your highest 35 years of earnings (adjusted for inflation). If these lower-earning years in your 60s replace higher-earning years in your work history, yes, your benefit could decrease slightly. However, if you already have 35 strong earning years, a few lower years won't impact your benefit calculation much.
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Amina Diallo
•Thank you for explaining that! I completely misunderstood the 15-hour rule then. So there's really no special treatment for self-employed people - I'm still subject to the same $22,320 limit as everyone else if I claim at 62. I've been self-employed for about 18 years, but before that I worked for agencies with lower pay. I'm worried those early lower-earning years will drag down my average. Is there any way to estimate how much my benefit might change if I reduce from seeing 25 clients weekly to maybe 12-15 clients the next few years?
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Natasha Kuznetsova
im self employed too (general contractor) and the whole thing is crazy complicated!! i started taking ss last year at 63 and they actually audited me 🙄 asked for all kinds of records about how many hours i was working even tho my schedule c showed i was under the limit. make sure you keep good records of your appointments so you can prove your hours if they ask!
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AstroAdventurer
•I'm very curious about this! Did SSA actually send someone to verify your work hours or did they just request documentation? I'm a self-employed accountant considering early benefits next year and I'm paranoid about triggering some kind of audit.
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Javier Mendoza
The whole earnings limit situation is RIDICULOUS! My husband is a self-employed therapist too and went through this nightmare last year. SSA doesn't understand how mental health practices work - you can earn different amounts seeing the same number of clients depending on which insurance they have. Plus there's all the unpaid administrative hours. He had to document EVERYTHING - appointment calendars, which clients had which insurance, how long he spent on paperwork. Then they still reduced his benefits because they counted some of his "retirement planning" time as work hours. The whole system is designed for W-2 employees from the 1950s, not modern self-employed professionals!!!
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Amina Diallo
•Oh no, this sounds like exactly what I'm afraid of! Did your husband eventually get it sorted out? I'm worried because I do a lot of unpaid documentation hours outside of actual client sessions - probably 5-7 hours weekly of notes and insurance forms that I don't directly bill for.
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Emma Wilson
Have you considered using the online calculator tools on the SSA website to estimate your benefit changes? You can create a my Social Security account and use their retirement estimator. It allows you to model different earnings scenarios for your remaining work years. Regarding the self-employment rules, one thing that often confuses people is that Social Security doesn't just look at your net earnings on Schedule C. They consider your "countable income" which is generally net earnings from self-employment minus employer equivalent portion of self-employment tax. For the therapy work specifically, it gets tricky because there's both direct client time and indirect services (notes, billing, etc.). SSA considers ALL of that as work activity, not just the billable hours. Document everything carefully if you plan to work under the earnings limit.
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Amina Diallo
•I did try the SSA calculator but couldn't figure out how to model reducing my hours gradually. It seemed to only let me put in complete retirement dates. Maybe I missed something? Thank you for the clarification about countable income - that makes sense about deducting part of the SE tax. I'm starting to think maybe I should just wait until my Full Retirement Age to avoid all these complications!
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Malik Davis
Have you considered just waiting until your FRA? That's what I did - the earnings test is SUCH a headache if you're self-employed. Plus your monthly benefit will be higher. For me the peace of mind was worth waiting.
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Amina Diallo
•I'm definitely leaning that way after reading all these responses! I was hoping to start scaling back now but the monitoring and paperwork sounds like a nightmare. I guess the question is whether the reduced benefit amount at 62 is worth dealing with all the earnings limit headaches.
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Isabella Santos
I spent 2 hours on hold with Social Security last week trying to get clarification on almost this exact issue (I'm a self-employed consultant approaching 62). Never got through to anyone. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an actual SSA representative in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with explained that the 15-hour guideline is just one factor they consider, but the earnings limit is still the primary test. She recommended keeping detailed records of all work activities - client sessions, paperwork time, billing, everything. She also said setting regular office hours that clearly show reduced work can help establish that you're partially retired even if you occasionally exceed 15 hours in a particular week.
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Amina Diallo
•Thank you for the resource! I've been trying to reach someone at SSA for weeks with no luck. I'll check out that service - at this point I'd happily pay to actually speak with someone who can answer my specific questions. Did the agent give you any insight about how they calculate the benefit reduction if you go over the earnings limit?
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Oliver Schulz
One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you do decide to claim early and end up having benefits withheld due to excess earnings, those withheld benefits aren't lost forever. Once you reach FRA, SSA will recalculate and increase your monthly benefit to account for the months when benefits were withheld. For example, if you claim at 62 but have 6 months of benefits completely withheld due to earnings, at FRA your benefit would be adjusted as if you had claimed at 62½ instead of 62. It's a small silver lining if you do end up with reduced benefits due to working.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
•wait really?? i didn't know this! they never told me that when i had benefits withheld last year. do they do this automatically or do i need to request it when i hit full retirement age?
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AstroAdventurer
I'm facing a similar situation as a self-employed consultant. One strategy I'm considering is properly structuring my business affairs before claiming. Have you considered: 1. Shifting some income to different tax years if possible with your billing? 2. Legitimate business expenses that might reduce your net Schedule C income? 3. Potentially forming an S-Corp where only part of your income is self-employment earnings? Obviously talk to your accountant about these, but there are legal ways to manage your countable income that might help you stay under the limit while still maintaining your practice at a comfortable level.
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Emma Wilson
•While these strategies can work in some cases, please be very careful with this approach. SSA specifically looks for arrangements designed to artificially reduce earnings while maintaining the same work activity. The S-Corp strategy in particular can raise red flags if implemented right before claiming benefits, as SSA may view it as an attempt to evade the earnings test rather than a legitimate business restructuring. SSA has the authority to determine that your work activity exceeds the retirement test even if your reported earnings are below the threshold. Documentation of actual reduced work hours is always the safest approach.
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Javier Mendoza
Something else to consider - with self-employment in therapy, you might also have passive income from things like subletting office space or selling workbooks/materials you've created. My friend who's a therapist has a small passive income stream from a mindfulness workbook she published years ago. SSA doesn't count that as earned income for the earnings test - only income that's directly tied to your current work activity counts.
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Malik Davis
•This is true! Rental income, royalties, investment income and other passive streams don't count toward the earnings limit. Just make sure you're documenting and reporting it properly as passive income rather than self-employment earnings.
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Amina Diallo
Thank you all SO much for these insights. I'm learning toward waiting until my FRA now to avoid the headache of documentation and possible disputes with SSA. But if I do decide to claim early, I'll definitely: 1. Get professional advice about structuring my practice 2. Set up meticulous documentation of all work hours 3. Create clear boundaries showing reduced work schedule 4. Use that Claimyr service to actually speak with someone at SSA before making my decision Never realized what a complicated mess this would be as a self-employed person. The SSA publications make it seem much simpler than it actually is in practice!
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Emma Wilson
•That sounds like a prudent approach. One final recommendation: regardless of when you claim benefits, consider a consultation with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies. Sometimes the optimal claiming age isn't obvious and depends on your overall financial situation, health status, and life expectancy. The few hundred dollars for specialized advice could potentially translate to tens of thousands in lifetime benefits.
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