Does Social Security earnings limit apply to my LLC income or just W-2 earnings?
I'm turning 64 next month and planning to start collecting Social Security retirement while still working part-time. Most of my income comes through my consulting LLC, which gets 1099s from clients. I'm confused about how SS treats this income under the monthly earnings limit ($1,950 for 2025). Does this limit apply only to W-2 income or does my LLC income count too? If I earn $1,500 in W-2 wages but my LLC brings in $3,000 that same month, will I lose my SS payment? Do I need to keep my COMBINED income under the limit until I reach my full retirement age? The SSA website is really confusing on this!
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GamerGirl99
The earnings test absolutely applies to your LLC income if you're actively working in the business. For Social Security purposes, they look at net earnings from self-employment (what you report on Schedule SE) PLUS any regular wages. So yes, they combine both income sources toward that $1,950 monthly limit. If you earn above the limit in any month, you'll lose benefits for that month during your first year of claiming. After the first year, they switch to an annual limit ($23,400 for 2025).
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Amina Diallo
•Ugh, that's not what I wanted to hear but thank you for clarifying. So basically I need to keep track of my combined income each month? Would it make any difference if I took a smaller salary from the LLC and left more money in the business?
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Hiroshi Nakamura
I went through this exact situation last year! What matters is your NET earnings from self-employment, not gross LLC income. If your LLC has $3000 in revenue but $2000 in legitimate business expenses, only $1000 counts toward the earnings limit. When combined with your $1500 W-2, you'd still be under the $1950 monthly limit. The key is how you structure your LLC - if it's a single-member LLC filing Schedule C, SSA counts your net profit. If it's an S-Corp, they count your actual salary (not distributions).
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Amina Diallo
•That makes more sense - so it's not the gross revenue coming into the LLC, but what I actually earn from it. My LLC is a single-member filing Schedule C. So I should be tracking my monthly net profit after expenses, and keeping that plus any W-2 under $1,950? Does it matter when clients actually pay me vs when I do the work?
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Isabella Costa
actualy SS dosnt care about your LLC they only look at what you personaly earn. i have an llc too and my accountant told me to just pay myself less from the llc and leave money in the business and then ss dosnt see it!!
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GamerGirl99
•This is incorrect and could get the OP in trouble. For single-member LLCs filing Schedule C (which OP confirmed they have), Social Security absolutely counts the net earnings regardless of whether you "pay yourself" from the LLC or not. The entire net profit flows through to your personal return and is subject to self-employment tax and the earnings limit. You might be thinking of an S-Corporation arrangement, which is completely different.
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Malik Jenkins
I've been dealing with this situation for 3 years. For a Schedule C LLC, Social Security doesn't care about when money comes INTO your business. What matters is when you EARN it. If you did $3000 worth of work in January but don't get paid until March, it still counts for January's earnings test. SSA follows the "earn rule" not the "pay rule." And yes, it's NET income (after business expenses) plus W-2 wages that count toward the limit. Document everything carefully because if you're audited, the burden of proof is on you to show when you actually earned the money.
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Amina Diallo
•This is getting complicated! Does anyone know if Social Security actually checks your monthly income or do they just look at annual totals? I'm worried about accidentally going over in one month and having my check withheld.
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Freya Andersen
back in 2022 I went thru all this myself and ended up spending HOURS on hold with SSA just to get basic questions answered!! so frustrating!!! their website is so confusing and the offices are always packed.
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Eduardo Silva
•Same here! I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an agent without the ridiculous hold times. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Especially with confusing earnings limit questions like this, speaking directly to an SSA agent is the only way to get a definitive answer for your specific situation. Saved me hours of frustration.
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Leila Haddad
I am SO ANGRY at how complicated they make all this!!!! Why can't SSA just make ONE clear rule?? I've been trying to figure this out for months. My husband has an LLC and we're afraid to even APPLY for his benefits because we don't want to get hit with an OVERPAYMENT notice later! Has anyone actually successfully managed this situation without problems???
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Hiroshi Nakamura
•It is frustrating, but it's manageable if you plan carefully. The safest approach is to report to SSA when you expect to earn over the limit in a given month. You can do this proactively by calling them or using your my Social Security account online. If you report excess earnings in advance, they'll withhold the benefit for that month, and you avoid an overpayment. The key is keeping good monthly records, especially for self-employment income.
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GamerGirl99
To clarify some confusion in this thread: For the first year after you claim benefits, SSA applies the monthly earnings test. After that first year, they switch to an annual test, where they only look at your total earnings for the year. This means after your first year collecting, you could earn a lot in one month and nothing in another, and as long as your annual total stays under the yearly limit ($23,400 for 2025), you won't lose any benefits. For LLC income specifically, they count it when earned, not when paid - this is a common misunderstanding that leads to problems.
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Freya Andersen
•Wait, so after the first year they don't care about monthly? That makes it way easier! My brother told me I had to stay under the limit EVERY month forever or they'd take my $$$ away!
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Amina Diallo
Thanks everyone for the helpful information! I think I understand better now - I need to track my monthly net earnings from the LLC (after expenses) plus any W-2 wages and keep the combined amount under $1,950 for each month during my first year. Then after that, I just need to keep my annual total under $23,400 until I reach full retirement age. I'm going to call SSA directly to confirm this is correct for my specific situation before I apply. Really appreciate all the advice!
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Malik Jenkins
•That's exactly right! One more tip - keep a very detailed log of your monthly work activities and income. If there's ever a question, you'll want documentation showing exactly when you earned the money. And remember that once you reach your Full Retirement Age (67 for those born after 1960), the earnings limit disappears completely and you can earn as much as you want with no reduction in benefits. Good luck!
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