Social Security income vs earned income limits - do IRA withdrawals count toward SS earnings test?
I'm turning 63 next month and started collecting Social Security early (I know, I know, but life happens). I'm confused about the earnings limit since I still work part-time. Does the actual Social Security payment I receive each month count toward the $22,320 yearly earnings limit? Or is it just the money I make from my job? Also wondering if withdrawals from my IRA count toward this limit since I pay taxes on them. My financial planner and my brother-in-law gave me completely different answers, and now I'm confused. Thanks for any help!
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Mei Chen
Good question! The annual earnings limit only applies to EARNED income - wages from a job or net earnings from self-employment. Your Social Security benefits themselves absolutely do NOT count toward the earnings limit test. And neither do IRA withdrawals, pension payments, investment income, interest, or annuities. The SSA only cares about what you EARN through active work before full retirement age.
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Jamal Edwards
•Oh that's such a relief! My brother-in-law had me worried sick that I'd have to pay back benefits. Thank you for clearing this up.
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Liam O'Sullivan
My dad got hit with this last year. Only matters if ur working. SS checks dont count as income for the test and neither does IRA money
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Amara Okonkwo
•What do you mean he got 'hit' with it? Did they make him pay back benefits? I'm still working about 25 hrs a week AND taking SS AND planning to take some IRA money and I'm worried I'll be over the limit somehow.
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Giovanni Marino
To clarify a bit more technically - the Social Security earnings test only applies to earned income before you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA). Specifically: 1. Social Security benefits themselves are NOT counted as earnings 2. IRA distributions are NOT counted as earnings 3. Pension payments are NOT counted as earnings 4. Investment income is NOT counted as earnings Only wages or self-employment income count. For 2025, the annual limit is approximately $22,320 if you're under FRA for the entire year. If you exceed this limit, SSA will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the limit. Keep careful track of your earned income if you're close to the limit, as unexpected overtime or bonuses could push you over.
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Fatima Al-Sayed
•do they take the money all at once or spread it out? i went over by like $3k last year and not sure what to expect
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Dylan Hughes
my sister thought the same thing!!! got herself all worked up for nothing. its ONLY work money that counts, not your ss checks or retirement accts
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NightOwl42
The earnings test can be so frustrating! When I was trying to get answers about this, I kept getting disconnected when calling SSA. I eventually used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to connect with an agent without the endless waiting. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Got confirmation that only earned income counts toward the annual limit - definitely not your SS benefits or IRA withdrawals. Made it so much easier to plan my part-time work hours knowing exactly what counts.
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Jamal Edwards
•Thanks for the tip! I've been trying to call SSA for days and just get disconnected or wait forever. I'll check out that service since I have a few more questions about how they calculate the withholding if I do go over.
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Amara Okonkwo
BE CAREFUL THOUGH!!! Even though IRA withdrawals don't count for the earnings test, they DO count as income for tax purposes on your Social Security benefits!! Up to 85% of your SS can be taxable if your combined income is too high. I learned this the hard way last year and got killed on taxes. They use this weird "combined income" formula: your AGI + nontaxable interest + 1/2 of your Social Security benefits. If that's over $34,000 (single) or $44,000 (married), up to 85% of benefits are taxable!
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Liam O'Sullivan
•omg this is so confusing! why does SSA make everything so complicated??
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Giovanni Marino
To summarize the key points for everyone: 1. The earnings test only counts EARNED income (wages, self-employment) 2. Social Security benefits do NOT count toward the earnings test 3. IRA withdrawals do NOT count toward the earnings test 4. HOWEVER, IRA withdrawals DO affect the taxation of your Social Security benefits The earnings test and tax rules are completely separate issues. The earnings test determines if SSA withholds some benefits due to work, while tax rules determine how much of your SS benefits are subject to income tax.
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Jamal Edwards
•This is so helpful, thank you! I think my brother-in-law was confusing the earnings test with the tax rules. My monthly benefit is about $1,850, so annually that's $22,200, which is right at that earnings limit, so I thought I couldn't earn anything else! Now I understand that's not how it works at all.
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Fatima Al-Sayed
My accountant told me that you only have to worry about the limit until you hit your full retirement age. Once you reach that, there IS NO LIMIT on how much you can earn! I turn 67 next year and can't wait to work as much as I want without SS taking anything back!
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Dylan Hughes
•yes! this is so important to remember! the limits go completely away once you hit FRA
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