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Social Security earnings limit question - does SS benefit count toward $22,300 annual limit?

Just got approved for my retirement benefits and expecting my first check on November 20th! I'm only 64 and want to keep working part-time at my job. I understand there's an earnings limit of $22,300 for 2025 since I'm under my full retirement age, but I'm confused about something - does the money I get from Social Security count toward this earnings limit? Or is it just my wages from my part-time job that count? I really don't want to accidentally go over the limit and have SS take back some of my benefits. Anyone know for sure?

Only your wages from work count toward the $22,300 annual earnings limit. Your Social Security benefits are not counted as earnings for this purpose. The earnings limit only applies to money you earn from working, like W-2 wages or self-employment income. Your monthly Social Security checks don't count against this limit at all.

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Thank you so much for clearing that up! So I could potentially receive $30,000 in SS benefits and still earn up to $22,300 from my part-time job without any reduction in benefits? That's a relief!

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no ur SS money doesnt count towards earnings limit, just reg work money. i went thru this last yr, only W2 money counts

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This is correct, but I should add that it's specifically earned income that counts. So that includes wages from employment (W-2 income) and net earnings from self-employment. Other unearned income like pension payments, investment income, interest, annuities, and capital gains also don't count toward the earnings test limit.

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Be careful!! I thought the same thing but ended up owing money back! The SSA counts GROSS earnings not NET and they don't tell you this!! So if you make $22,400 gross but only take home $19,000 after taxes you're STILL OVER THE LIMIT!! This happened to me and I had to pay back benefits, it was HORRIBLE! And they take money out $1 for every $2 you go over so be super careful!!!

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You're absolutely right about SSA counting gross earnings, not net take-home pay. That's a really important distinction. However, to clarify for the original poster, while your earnings are counted as gross amounts, your Social Security benefits themselves still don't count toward the earnings limit at all. Only the money you earn from working counts.

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I went through this last year! No, your SS payments definitely don't count toward the limit. Just what you earn at your job. But remember that it's $1 reduction for every $2 you earn above the limit. So if you go over by $1000, they only reduce your annual benefits by $500. It's not like you lose everything. My brother thought that and almost quit his job unnecessarily!

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The earnings limit only applies to money you earn from working. Your Social Security benefits are NOT counted. What does count: wages, bonuses, commissions, vacation pay, and net earnings from self-employment. What doesn't count: pensions, investment income, interest, veterans or other government benefits, and of course your Social Security benefits. Also note that in the year you first retire, SSA uses a monthly earnings test rather than annual, which can be helpful if you retire mid-year. You can earn more than a proportional amount of the annual limit in the months before you start benefits.

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That's really helpful, thank you. I'm actually cutting back to part-time rather than fully retiring, but good to know about the monthly test. I'll make sure to stay under $1,858 per month ($22,300 ÷ 12) after I start receiving benefits.

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My mom just went through this! Let me tell u what happened to her - she's 63 and started SS in January but still works at Walmart. The only money that counted toward her limit was her Walmart paychecks. Her SS checks didn't count at all toward the $22,300 limit.

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I'm still confused about this whole thing. If I earn too much, do they take back ALL my benefits or just some of them??? I'm starting SS next year but I'm worried about this limit thing. I keep hearing different things!

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They don't take back all your benefits if you exceed the earnings limit. For people under Full Retirement Age, SSA withholds $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the annual limit ($22,300 in 2025). For example, if you earn $24,300 (which is $2,000 over the limit), they would withhold $1,000 in benefits for the year (half of the $2,000 overage). When you reach your Full Retirement Age, there are no more earnings limits and you can earn as much as you want with no reduction in benefits.

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my sister had this same ? last yr. its just ur work $ that counts, not SS $. btw dont forget they look at GROSS pay not takehome

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Thanks everyone for the great info! So it sounds like the consensus is that my Social Security benefits don't count toward the earnings limit, just my work income (and gross, not net). That's exactly what I needed to know. I'll be careful to stay under the $22,300 limit with my part-time job. I appreciate all your help!

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Just one more important thing to keep in mind: the earnings limit increases in the year you reach your Full Retirement Age, and then disappears completely the month you reach FRA. So depending on your birth year and how close you are to your FRA, you might have different limits applying soon. It's worth checking the SSA website for the specific limits that apply to your situation.

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I'm new here but this is such helpful information! I'm turning 62 next month and was considering taking early retirement benefits while continuing to work part-time. Reading through all these responses really clarifies that my Social Security payments won't count against the earnings limit - only my work income will. I had been worried I'd have to choose between working and getting benefits, but now I see I can do both as long as I stay under the $22,300 gross earnings limit. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences!

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Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right that you can do both - work part-time and receive Social Security benefits. Just keep track of your gross earnings throughout the year to make sure you stay under that $22,300 limit. One tip I learned from reading through these discussions is to maybe keep a running total of your paychecks so you don't accidentally go over. Good luck with your retirement planning!

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Great question and congratulations on getting approved! Just to reinforce what others have said - your Social Security benefits absolutely do NOT count toward the $22,300 earnings limit. Only earned income from employment counts (wages, self-employment income, etc.). One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned much is to keep good records of your earnings throughout the year. I recommend setting up a simple spreadsheet or even just writing down your gross pay from each paycheck so you can track where you stand relative to that $22,300 limit. It's easy to lose track, especially if your hours vary from week to week in part-time work. Also, remember that the limit is based on the calendar year, not when you start receiving benefits. So even though you're starting benefits in November, the $22,300 limit applies to your total earnings for all of 2025. Best of luck with your part-time work and enjoy those Social Security checks!

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This is really excellent advice, especially about keeping track of your earnings! I'm also new to this whole Social Security thing and hadn't thought about setting up a tracking system. A spreadsheet sounds like a great idea. Since I'll be working part-time with potentially varying hours, it would be really easy to accidentally go over that limit without realizing it. Thanks for mentioning that the limit is for the whole calendar year too - I was wondering about that timing piece. It's so helpful to have experienced people like you sharing practical tips!

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