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my cousin works and gets ssdi. he said theres some program where they dont count all your income. ticket to work maybe? not sure but worth looking into
Your cousin is probably referring to either Ticket to Work (which provides free employment services) or work incentives like Impairment-Related Work Expenses (IRWE) and Subsidies/Special Conditions that can reduce countable income. These don't change the SGA amount but can help if your earnings are close to the limit. For example, if you earn $1,650 but have $150 in IRWEs, your countable income would be $1,500 - below the 2025 SGA limit.
Thank you everyone for the helpful replies! I think I understand better now - I get 9 months where I can earn any amount, then after that I need to stay under $1,550 to keep benefits. I've scheduled a call with SSA through that Claimyr service someone mentioned to confirm everything before I accept this job. Really appreciate all the detailed explanations!
That's correct! One important thing to remember: those 9 Trial Work Period months don't have to be consecutive, but they do expire eventually. They count any month you earn over $1,110 (for 2025), and once you use all 9 months within a rolling 60-month period, your TWP is over. Good luck with your work opportunity!
Dont forget that if ur in a state that taxes SS (there are 12 of them) u might need state withholding too!!! The system is BROKEN when they tax our SS that we already paid into our whole lives!!!!
This is an important point. The 12 states that tax Social Security to some extent are: Colorado, Connecticut, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, and West Virginia. However, most have exemptions based on age or income, so even if you live in one of these states, you might not owe state tax on your benefits.
I spent HOURS trying to get through to someone at Social Security to ask this exact question last month! Kept getting busy signals or disconnected after waiting forever. Total nightmare trying to get answers from them.
I had the same issue trying to get information about my WEP calculation. I finally had success using Claimyr.com to get through to an agent. Their service connects you with SSA without the endless waiting. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU that shows how it works. Saved me hours of frustration and I got my questions answered in one call. For complex situations like CSRS Offset and WEP, it's really worth talking to an actual SSA representative rather than trying to figure it out alone.
Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I'm feeling much more optimistic about this legislation now. Sounds like I should expect a modest increase to my Social Security check if it passes, with no negative impact on my pension. I'll keep following the progress of the bill but won't count on the extra money until it actually becomes law.
Just one more thing to keep in mind - call your representatives in Congress if you want to see this pass! The more they hear from actual affected people like us, the better chance it has. The bill has bipartisan support but still needs a push to get it to a vote.
Just to follow up on my earlier comment - you mentioned applying last week. I recommend marking your calendar for 30 days from your application date. If you haven't received any correspondence by then, that's a good time to contact SSA for a status update. The MySocialSecurity online account sometimes shows processing status, though it's not always updated promptly. Have you created an online account yet? That might give you some visibility into the process.
Yes, I do have an online account. It just shows my application as "pending" but no other details. I'll mark my calendar for the 30-day follow-up as you suggested. Thank you!
Just heard from a friend who recently received widow's benefits - her first payment came exactly 37 days after application. She said what helped was submitting all documentation together with the initial application rather than having SSA request additional items later. Also, for planning purposes, remember that Social Security payment dates are based on your birth date: - Birth dates 1-10: Second Wednesday of the month - Birth dates 11-20: Third Wednesday of the month - Birth dates 21-31: Fourth Wednesday of the month So once your benefits begin, you'll receive payments on the same Wednesday each month based on your birth date.
Thank you for this information! My birthday is on the 18th, so I guess I'll be getting payments on the third Wednesday of each month. That's really helpful for my budget planning.
I've been trying to plan my finances after my husband's passing last year, and I'm confused about the survivor benefits rules. I was born in 1959 and plan to claim survivor benefits before my own retirement. From what I've read, I think my Full Retirement Age (FRA) for survivor benefits is 66 years and 8 months - is that correct? My main question is about working while receiving benefits. I understand there's an earnings limit if I claim before FRA, but once I reach FRA, can I earn unlimited income without any reduction in my survivor benefits? I make about $68,000 annually at my current job and don't plan to retire anytime soon.Also, is the FRA different for my own retirement benefits versus survivor benefits? The SSA website is so confusing and every time I call, I get disconnected after waiting for hours. Would appreciate any help understanding this!
my neighbor said they always mess up payments. she got wrong amount for like 5 months before they fixed it. make sure u check everythng twice
This happened to me too! They underpaid me for 4 months before I noticed. The backpay was a hassle to get straightened out. Keep detailed records of EVERYTHING and check your bank account against the benefit verification letter they send you.
my sister had this same ? last yr. its just ur work $ that counts, not SS $. btw dont forget they look at GROSS pay not takehome
Thanks everyone for the great info! So it sounds like the consensus is that my Social Security benefits don't count toward the earnings limit, just my work income (and gross, not net). That's exactly what I needed to know. I'll be careful to stay under the $22,300 limit with my part-time job. I appreciate all your help!
Just one more important thing to keep in mind: the earnings limit increases in the year you reach your Full Retirement Age, and then disappears completely the month you reach FRA. So depending on your birth year and how close you are to your FRA, you might have different limits applying soon. It's worth checking the SSA website for the specific limits that apply to your situation.
the paperwork isnt as bad as it sounds. they asked for my ss award letter, bank statements, and id. took about an hour to fill out the forms. medicaid office helped me with the confusing parts. i think ssdi and ss retirement r treated the same for these programs but not 100% sure
That's reassuring to hear it wasn't too complicated! I'll gather those documents ahead of time. Thanks!
One other important thing to know: Even if you don't qualify for the Medicare Savings Programs through Medicaid, you should look into Medicare Advantage plans that have $0 premiums and include prescription coverage. Many also offer extra benefits like dental, vision, hearing, and over-the-counter allowances. Part B premiums would still apply, but many Advantage plans help reduce your overall healthcare costs. You can switch plans during the Annual Enrollment Period from October 15 to December 7 each year. Based on your income level, I'd recommend applying for both the Medicare Savings Program AND Extra Help as soon as you're eligible. You can apply for Extra Help up to 4 months before your Medicare begins.
im confused why would u file at 64 and take a permanent reduction when u could wait till 66/67 (whatever ur FRA is) and get the full 50% of his PIA???? unless u really need the money now it seems like a bad deal to take the early reduction
That's a fair question! We've been debating this. I haven't worked steadily in recent years, and we're trying to reduce how much we're pulling from savings. We calculated that even with the reduction, we'd come out ahead if I take benefits at 64 versus waiting until my FRA at 67 - it would take 12+ years to break even if I waited. Plus, I'm quite a bit younger than my husband, and we want to enjoy the money together while we're both still active.
Your break-even analysis is a smart approach. Many people focus only on maximizing the monthly amount without considering the total lifetime benefits. If your health or family history suggests you might not reach the break-even age (typically around 80-83 for most early vs. FRA decisions), claiming earlier can be the financially optimal choice.
One more thing worth mentioning - when you apply, make sure you're clear about applying for BOTH your retirement benefit AND spousal benefits. While SSA is supposed to automatically check if you qualify for both, sometimes this gets overlooked. Also, for planning purposes: as a spouse filing at 64 (assuming your FRA is 67), you'll receive approximately 35% of your husband's PIA as a spousal benefit (rather than the 50% at FRA). Your total benefit will be your own reduced retirement benefit, plus the spousal add-on to reach the 35% of his PIA (if that's higher than your own benefit alone).
Wait, now I'm confused again. Someone earlier said I'd get either my benefit OR the spousal benefit (whichever is higher), but you're saying I'd get my benefit PLUS a spousal add-on to reach 35% of his PIA? Those are very different scenarios. Now I'm really not sure which is correct.
I apologize for the confusion. Let me clarify: you don't get both added together. When you file, you'll receive the higher of either: 1. Your own reduced retirement benefit (filing at 64) 2. The reduced spousal benefit (35% of his PIA at your age 64) However, SSA technically calculates this as your own benefit plus a "top-up" to reach the spousal amount (if the spousal amount is higher). But the end result is you get the larger of the two, not both combined. Sorry for the confusing explanation!
another thing to think about is if ur enrolled in social security benefits already. if u already get SS retirement, they automatically enroll u in part A when u turn 65 whether u want it or not. that stops HSA right away. happened to my coworker.
That's a really important point I hadn't considered. I wasn't planning to take Social Security until 67, but this is another good reason to wait. I definitely want to keep my HSA contributions going while I'm working.
Since you're still working with employer coverage, here's what I recommend based on your HSA priorities: 1. Delay BOTH Medicare Part A and B while you continue working 2. Continue maximizing HSA contributions 3. When you retire or lose employer coverage, enroll in both Part A and B during your Special Enrollment Period 4. For the year you enroll in Medicare, prorate your HSA contributions for only the months before Medicare started This approach maximizes your tax advantages while avoiding penalties. Be sure your employer coverage meets the "creditable coverage" requirements to avoid Part D penalties later.
Thank you so much for this clear plan! This makes perfect sense, and I'll follow these steps. I've confirmed my employer plan is considered creditable coverage for Part D purposes. I really appreciate everyone's help understanding these complicated rules!
Darren Brooks
Thank you everyone for all the helpful information! To summarize what I've learned:1. Apply 3-4 months before January 2026 (so September-October 2025)2. First payment will come in February 2026 (for January benefits)3. Payment date will be the third Wednesday of February (based on his birth date)4. Benefit might be slightly prorated since his FRA is on the 11th, not the 1st5. Use MySocialSecurity to track application statusWe'll make sure to budget accordingly knowing there's that one-month delay between benefit start and actual payment. This has been incredibly helpful for our retirement planning!
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Perfect summary! One additional tip: When your husband applies, he should print or save PDF copies of all confirmation screens and any communication from SSA. This documentation can be helpful if there are any issues with processing his application.
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