
Ask the community...
While everyone is talking about IRMAA, don't forget that if you're getting any needs-based benefits alongside your Social Security (like help with your Medicare costs through a Medicare Savings Program), an inheritance could definitely affect those! Had that happen to my cousin.
One more thing! If u DO get hit with IRMAA and ur income goes back down later, you can fill out form SSA-44 for a "life-changing event" to get your Medicare premium reduced again. My neighbor did this after she spent down most of her inheritance money and her income dropped.
That's great to know there's a way to adjust things if circumstances change. Thanks for mentioning the specific form! I'm learning so much from everyone here.
Don't forget about taxes!!! If you both have other income or retirement account withdrawals, getting SS early might push you into higher tax brackets. Up to 85% of SS can be taxable depending on your combined income. Something else to consider...
That's a really good point I hadn't considered. We do have traditional IRAs we'll be drawing from. I should probably talk to our tax person about how the timing of SS would affect our overall tax situation. Thanks for bringing this up!
I think everyone's overthinking this. You said half his benefit at 62 equals your full benefit at 67, right? So just take yours at 67, enjoy some travel, and when he hits 62 he can decide whether to claim or wait based on your situation then. You don't have to figure out everything now. Life changes, health changes, financial needs change. Just take it one step at a time.
While flexibility is important, Social Security claiming decisions are permanent (outside the 12-month withdrawal period). These choices affect lifetime income by potentially tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's worth creating a strategy, even if that strategy gets adjusted as circumstances change.
Since several people have mentioned continuing disability reviews (CDRs), let me explain how those work for children: 1. For conditions that may improve, SSA typically conducts reviews every 3 years 2. For conditions unlikely to improve, reviews happen less frequently (every 5-7 years) 3. At age 18, there's a mandatory redetermination under adult criteria The age 18 redetermination is particularly important. The criteria for adults are more stringent, focusing on ability to work rather than age-appropriate functioning. Many children who qualified under childhood standards lose benefits at this review. It's best to prepare for this well in advance. When your daughter nears 18, if her condition is still present, consider: - Vocational rehabilitation services - Transition planning through her school - Whether she might qualify for the Ticket to Work program - How to document ongoing limitations in a way that meets adult standards Approximately 60% of childhood SSI recipients lose benefits at the age 18 redetermination. Having thorough, updated medical documentation is crucial for maintaining eligibility.
Thank you for this explanation about the age 18 review. That's really helpful to know what to expect. I'm worried about her being able to support herself as an adult if her condition doesn't improve.
don't let the negative comments scare you! yes its hard but many kids get approved. my son got approved first time with no lawyer. just have ALL paperwork ready and the specialist diagnosis. make copies of EVERYTHING cuz they lose stuff. and keep calling if u don't hear anything after a few weeks!!
Thanks for the encouragement. I'm going to start gathering everything and make an appointment this week.
My friend says u can work as many hours as u want as long as u don't go over the money limit. is that right?
That's not correct for self-employed individuals. For people who work for an employer (W-2 workers), only the earnings matter. But for self-employed people, the SSA looks at both earnings AND hours worked. Over 45 hours a month is considered substantial work regardless of earnings, which could affect benefits even if you're under the annual earnings limit. It's a common misunderstanding that leads to many overpayment issues.
Thanks everyone for your helpful responses! Based on what I'm learning here, I'll plan to: 1. Keep my monthly hours under 40 to be safe 2. Start a detailed daily log of both hours and earnings 3. Look up that SSA Publication No. 05-10069 4. Talk to my CPA about reporting requirements I think I'll aim for about 30 hours/month and adjust my rates to make the most of that time. It seems like there's some wiggle room between 15-45 hours but I'd rather be conservative. Really appreciate all the insights!
That sounds like a solid plan. One additional suggestion - when you file your taxes, include a detailed statement about your self-employment activities with your tax return. This can help establish your work patterns and hours upfront. Also, remember that the year you reach your FRA, the rules change - the earnings limit increases and only applies until the month you reach your FRA, not the whole year. Good planning now will save you headaches later!
DONT LISTEN TO PPL SAYING ITS OK TO WORK!!! The system is DESIGNED to catch you in a gotcha moment. my friend was on ssdi and ssi worked ONE DAY at amazon warehouse and they terminated everything and said she wasnt disabled anymore!!! took her 2 years fighting to get benefits back.
That sounds awful! But was she maybe doing heavy physical labor that contradicted her disability claim? I heard they can use that against you. Like if you claim you can't lift more than 10 pounds but then work in a warehouse lifting 50-pound boxes.
There's likely more to this story. A single day of work, even at Amazon, wouldn't trigger termination of benefits. Working doesn't automatically mean you're not disabled - that's why the work incentives exist in the first place. Benefits termination would require a medical review finding improvement or consistent work above SGA for an extended period. I understand the fear, but spreading misinformation doesn't help people make informed decisions. The OP is asking about part-time work below SGA limits, which is explicitly allowed and even encouraged under Social Security's rules.
Thank you all for the advice! I've decided I'm going to: 1. Contact a WIPA counselor first before making any decisions 2. Keep detailed records of everything if I do start working 3. Stay well under the SSDI TWP threshold at first (maybe $800/month max) 4. Report any income immediately both online and by calling 5. Save 30% of anything I earn in case there are any issues later I'm still nervous but feel much better informed now. Will update how it goes when I meet with the WIPA person.
That sounds like a great plan! Working within these programs can be complex, but with careful planning, it can definitely be done successfully. The WIPA counselor will be able to provide guidance tailored exactly to your situation.
good luck be careful!!!
my mom did exactly what ur talking about! she took her own benefit at 62 (it was like $1450/month) and then when she hit full retirement age she switched to my dads survivor benefit which was around $2200. worked out great for her. the social security people actually suggested it when she went in to apply after dad died.
One thing nobody's mentioned - you should create your my Social Security account online if you haven't already. You can see estimates of both your own benefit and your survivor benefit there. Makes it much easier to compare numbers and figure out the best strategy. Plus you can actually apply online which avoids the nightmare phone system.
To answer the question about the "disability freeze" - it's a provision that excludes periods of disability from the calculation of your benefits, so those years of little or no earnings don't drag down your average. However, it typically applies to people who qualify for disability benefits, not necessarily to those who are incarcerated. I may have been incorrect in suggesting it would apply in this situation.
Just FYI - make sure he brings TWO forms of ID when he goes to apply after he gets out. My relative forgot his second ID and they made him come back which was a whole other ordeal with transportation and taking more time off work.
Just to add a bit more clarification - everyone's situation is unique when it comes to Social Security benefits. Even with the information you've provided, there could be nuances to your specific case. For the most accurate information, you should contact SSA directly. Ask them to calculate whether you're eligible for any additional spousal benefits based on your husband's record. Be sure to ask about how things might change when you reach your Full Retirement Age as well. You can either schedule an appointment at your local office, call the national number (though wait times can be very long), or in some cases, you can use the online my Social Security account to get information about potential benefits.
You're right - I should probably just contact SSA directly to get the official answer for my specific situation. I was hoping to avoid those notorious wait times, but it looks like that's what I'll need to do. Thanks for all the help!
One thing nobody mentioned yet - if you do call SSA, make sure you have all your paperwork ready. They'll want your SS numbers, maybe birth certificates, marriage certificate, benefit verification letters, the works. I spent 90 minutes on hold only to be told I needed more documentation and had to call back! Complete nightmare.
Back to the original question - one thing no one mentioned is that if your husband filed for spousal benefits before 70, he wouldn't even get the full spousal amount because he'd be filing early for his spousal benefit. So not only would he permanently reduce his own benefit, but the spousal benefit for those 5 months would be reduced too. Double penalty!
Thanks everyone for your helpful responses! I think we have our answer - my husband should just wait until he turns 70 in September 2025 to file for his benefits and not try to get spousal benefits during those 5 months. It's disappointing that we can't take advantage of this small window, but I understand it's more important to maximize his lifetime benefit. I appreciate all the information!
Andre Dubois
MAKE SURE you wrote down your confirmation number when you applied!! If you didn't, go back and find it NOW. I lost mine and it made everything so much harder when I needed to follow up. Also, their definition of
0 coins
Ethan Wilson
I did save my confirmation number, thankfully! Good advice though - I'll make sure I have it handy if I need to call.
0 coins