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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share that I just went through something very similar to your situation. I'm 47 and received an unexpected $38.90 payment from SSA back in December. Like you, I was completely confused since I'm not receiving any benefits and hadn't applied for anything. After reading through all these incredibly detailed and helpful responses, I'm amazed at how many legitimate reasons there can be for these payments! The insights from the former SSA employee about posthumous benefit adjustments and the financial advisor's perspective on annual system recalculations have been eye-opening. I had no idea the SSA system could automatically trigger these kinds of payments related to family members' records or earnings corrections from years ago. Your situation with your father passing away 6 months ago and the payment appearing in January really seems to align with what the experts here have explained about timing and system processes. The $54.50 amount being so specific also suggests it's a calculated adjustment rather than an error, just like what others have mentioned. I'm definitely taking everyone's advice and setting up my mySSA account this weekend to finally figure out what my own mystery payment was for. Oliver, you're really fortunate to have gotten such comprehensive guidance from this community - you've got all the right terminology and a clear action plan now. Start with that online account, don't touch the money, and you'll be well-prepared for your call to SSA. Thanks to everyone for making this thread so educational for all of us dealing with these confusing situations!

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Welcome to the community! Your $38.90 payment experience sounds just like what so many of us have been dealing with - these mysterious but very specific amounts that turn out to have legitimate explanations. This thread has been absolutely incredible for helping people like us understand that we're not alone in this confusion! The timing patterns everyone has shared (payments appearing after family members pass away, the January processing window, the precise dollar amounts) really paint a clear picture that these are likely system-generated adjustments rather than errors. I'm also planning to create my mySSA account this weekend - it seems like that's become the unanimous first step recommendation from everyone who's successfully figured out their mystery payments. It's been such a relief to learn from the former SSA employee and financial advisor that there are so many valid reasons for these payments. Oliver is definitely going to be well-equipped to solve his mystery with all this guidance. Thanks for adding your experience to help others who might be going through the same thing!

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share my perspective after reading through all these incredibly helpful responses. I'm a tax preparer and I've seen clients receive unexpected SSA payments that turned out to be related to earnings record corrections or survivor benefit adjustments. Given that your father passed away 6 months ago and this $54.50 payment appeared in January, there's a strong possibility this could be a legitimate posthumous adjustment payment. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that sometimes the SSA will issue small payments when they discover unreported or underreported earnings from years past that affect benefit calculations for family members. The timing with the new year processing cycle makes this even more likely. I'd definitely recommend following everyone's excellent advice about creating that mySSA account first - it should show you the payment type and reason code which will save you significant time when you call. When you do speak with SSA, also ask about any "earnings record updates" or "survivor benefit recalculations" that might have been triggered by your father's death. Don't spend the money until you have clarity, but this sounds like it could very well be a legitimate system-generated payment. This thread has been incredibly educational - thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed insights!

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To summarize for the original poster: 1. Your state pension does NOT count toward the earnings test limit 2. If you work part-time and earn over $21,240 in 2025, benefits will be reduced 3. Your SS benefit will likely be reduced by WEP regardless of when you claim 4. You should check if GPO will affect any spousal/survivor benefits 5. Consider whether it makes financial sense to claim at 63 or wait until FRA or even age 70 6. The earnings test goes away completely once you reach your FRA of 67 Making the right Social Security claiming decision can mean tens of thousands of dollars difference over your lifetime.

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Thank you for this clear summary. I guess I need to weigh whether taking SS early at a reduced amount (and potentially having some withheld if I work part-time) makes sense versus waiting until 67. My financial situation allows for either option, but I want to maximize my benefits long-term.

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One thing to consider that might help with your decision - since you have 15 years of substantial earnings under Social Security, you're getting close to the 30-year threshold that eliminates WEP entirely. If any of those years were close to the "substantial earnings" amount for those years, you might want to check if working a few more years could bump you over that threshold. The substantial earnings amount changes each year (it's $29,700 for 2025). Also, don't forget that your Social Security benefit grows by about 8% per year if you delay claiming past your FRA until age 70. So even with WEP reducing your benefit, that 8% annual increase still applies to whatever your WEP-reduced amount would be. Might be worth running the numbers to see if the delayed retirement credits make up for the years of missed payments, especially since you'll have your state pension covering your expenses.

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You're absolutely on the right track with your plan! One additional resource that might be helpful is your local SSA office - they can provide personalized guidance about your specific situation. Also, when you contact WIPA, ask them about "benefit planners" - they can actually run scenarios showing exactly how different earnings levels would affect your benefits. Since you mentioned being a stay-at-home mom for years, it's worth noting that if you do eventually return to work, even part-time earnings could potentially help fill in some zero-earning years in your Social Security record, which might boost your future retirement benefits. The healthcare piece is really the biggest hurdle for most people in your situation, so it's great that you now know Medicare continues seamlessly. That knowledge alone should help you sleep better! Best of luck with whatever path you choose.

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This thread has been so educational! I'm new to this community and facing similar questions about SSDI and work. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and knowledge. It's reassuring to see such helpful support here. I'm definitely going to bookmark this discussion and follow up on the WIPA program suggestion - I had no idea that kind of free counseling was available!

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Welcome to the community! I'm glad you found this discussion helpful. As someone who went through a similar journey with my spouse, I can tell you that having access to accurate information makes all the difference in planning your future. A few additional tips from my experience: - Keep detailed records of any work activity if you decide to pursue that route - The SSA's Red Book (available online) is an excellent resource for understanding work incentives and rules - Consider connecting with others who've successfully navigated the return-to-work process through disability support groups The fact that you're researching and asking questions now puts you in a much better position than many people who find themselves caught off guard by benefit changes. This community is a great resource, and don't hesitate to post if you have more specific questions as you move forward with your planning!

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Thank you for the warm welcome and those practical tips! I really appreciate the suggestion about the SSA Red Book - I hadn't heard of that resource before and will definitely check it out. The idea of keeping detailed records makes so much sense, especially after reading about some of the challenges others have faced. It's encouraging to know there are people in this community who have successfully navigated these waters and are willing to share their experiences with newcomers like me. I'm feeling much more optimistic about figuring out the right path forward!

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So glad to hear your brother was able to get through to SSA and get this sorted out! This is actually a really valuable thread for anyone else who might find themselves in a similar situation. Just wanted to add one more tip - if anyone else is considering Social Security timing, the SSA website has a really helpful "Retirement Estimator" tool that can show you exactly how much your monthly benefit would be at different ages (62, full retirement age, 70, etc.). It's at ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/estimator.html and can help you make a more informed decision upfront. Your brother is smart to wait until his FRA - that extra $450/month really adds up over time!

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Thanks for sharing that link to the Retirement Estimator! I wish we had known about that tool before my brother applied. It would have saved us a lot of stress and panic. I'm definitely bookmarking it for future reference. And you're absolutely right about that $450/month adding up - over just 10 years that's an extra $54,000! Really grateful for all the helpful advice from everyone in this thread.

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Great to see this worked out! As someone who works in retirement planning, I see this situation ALL the time. The Social Security claiming decision is one of the most important financial choices people make, and unfortunately the system doesn't make it easy to understand the long-term impact. A few additional thoughts for anyone reading this: 1) The "break-even" analysis is crucial - figure out how many years you'd need to live to make waiting worthwhile (usually around 12-15 years), 2) Don't forget about spousal claiming strategies if you're married, and 3) Consider your other retirement income sources. Sometimes it makes sense to delay SS and draw from 401k/IRA first. The SSA-521 form mentioned here is definitely the right move when you catch the mistake early like this!

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This is such valuable insight! As someone new to understanding Social Security, I'm curious about the break-even analysis you mentioned. When you say 12-15 years, does that mean if someone expects to live at least that long past their FRA, waiting is typically the better choice? Also, what do you mean by spousal claiming strategies - are there ways for married couples to coordinate their Social Security timing to maximize their combined benefits? I'm still years away from retirement but want to start understanding these decisions early so I don't end up in a panic situation like Fernanda's brother!

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I'm going through a very similar situation right now! My mom is planning to file for spousal benefits next year too, and I've been worried sick about how it might affect my DAC benefits. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea about some of these details like the different family maximum calculations for SSDI vs retirement benefits, or that there might be state supplemental programs available. One thing I wanted to add that might help you (and others in similar situations) - I found out that some Social Security field offices will do "what if" calculations over the phone if you ask specifically. They can tell you hypothetically what would happen to your benefits if another person were added to the record. It might be worth asking for this when you call. Also, if you're comfortable sharing, it would be really helpful if you could update this thread once you get the actual numbers from SSA. I'm sure there are other people in similar situations who would benefit from knowing how the process went and what kind of timeline to expect. Thanks for posting this question - it's made me realize I need to stop putting off making that call to SSA myself!

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I'm so glad this thread has been helpful for you too! It's reassuring to know I'm not the only one dealing with this situation. The "what if" calculation idea is brilliant - I'm definitely going to ask about that when I call SSA. That might be exactly what I need to get a clear picture without having to wait until my mom actually files. And yes, I'll absolutely update this thread once I get the actual numbers! I know how stressful it is to be in this position with so many unknowns, and if sharing my experience can help others prepare better, I'm happy to do that. You should definitely make that call soon - I've learned from everyone here that the earlier you know what to expect, the better you can prepare. Even if the news isn't great, at least you can start planning for it. We're in this together!

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I'm a benefits counselor who works with families navigating these exact situations, and I wanted to add a few practical points that might help: First, when you call SSA, ask to speak with a "technical expert" rather than just the general customer service line. They're specifically trained in complex family maximum calculations and can give you more precise information. Second, it's worth noting that family maximum reductions are calculated monthly, so if your mom files mid-month, the reduction might not take effect until the following month. This could give you a little breathing room. Also, I've seen cases where the family maximum calculation was initially done incorrectly by SSA, resulting in larger reductions than necessary. If your benefits are reduced and the amount seems unusually high, don't hesitate to request a manual review of the calculation. One thing that often surprises people is that if your father's SSDI converts to retirement benefits when he reaches full retirement age, the family maximum calculation changes again - usually in a way that's more favorable to auxiliary beneficiaries. So any reduction you experience now might not be permanent. Finally, keep detailed records of all your conversations with SSA, including dates, times, and the names of representatives you speak with. This documentation can be invaluable if you need to follow up or appeal any decisions. You're being very smart by planning ahead - most families I work with wish they had done what you're doing now!

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