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Social Security earnings limit confusion - retiring mid-year at 62 with part-time self-employment

I'm trying to understand how the Social Security earnings limit works when retiring mid-year. I'll turn 62 and 9 months in September 2025 and plan to retire from my full-time job then. By August, I'll have earned about $58,000 from my W2 job, plus around $6,000 from my side business (self-employment), totaling $64,000 for the year. I want to keep running my side business after retirement while collecting Social Security. I've read somewhere that the earnings limit might not apply or works differently if you retire mid-year, but I'm totally confused about how this actually works. Will all my pre-retirement earnings count against the limit? Will I be able to receive any benefits in 2025 with that income level? Anyone dealt with this situation before?

There's something called the 'Monthly Earnings Test' that applies in your first year of claiming. Basically, you only have to worry about the monthly earnings limit (not annual) for the months you're actually receiving benefits. So if you stop working that W2 job in August and apply for benefits starting September, then only your self-employment income from September-December would count toward the limit. For 2025, the monthly limit would be around $1,710 (estimating based on current figures). So as long as your self-employment income stays under that monthly amount after you start collecting, you should be fine.

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Thank you! That makes more sense now. So my $58k earnings from January-August 2025 won't matter at all for the limit? And I just need to keep my self-employment under $1,710 per month starting in September? That's a huge relief!

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The previous poster is correct - it's called the Grace Year Monthly Earnings Test. SSA will only count earnings in months AFTER you start receiving benefits in your first year. But be careful with self-employment income - SSA looks at when you perform the work, not when you get paid. So if you do $2,000 worth of work in October but don't invoice until November, it still counts for October's limit. Also, remember that you'll get a reduced benefit amount by claiming before your Full Retirement Age, which is probably around 67 for you. Have you calculated how much your monthly benefit will be reduced by claiming at 62 and 9 months?

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No, I haven't calculated the exact reduction yet. I know it'll be less than if I waited until 67, but my plan is to keep working part-time anyway. For the self-employment, that's good to know about when the work is performed vs. paid. I'll need to carefully track my hours and billing to stay under that monthly limit.

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wait so does this mean all the money u earn BEFORE u claim SS doesn't count against that yearly limit?? i thought it was a total yearly amount no matter what

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Only in your first year of benefits (sometimes called the grace year). In all subsequent years, it's the annual total that matters. So in 2025, OP would only need to worry about earnings from September-December. But in 2026, all earnings for the whole year would count toward the annual limit.

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I actually just went through this exact situation last year. Make ABSOLUTELY SURE you report your earnings properly and that Social Security understands you've retired from your main job. I didn't do this correctly and ended up with a $4,200 overpayment notice because they counted all my pre-retirement income against the limit! It was a NIGHTMARE to fix. I spent WEEKS trying to reach someone at SSA to explain the situation. Called literally dozens of times and kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours.

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Dealing with SS on the phone is the worst!! I gave up after trying for days and just went to my local office but had to wait 3 hours!! How did u finally get through?

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Thank you all for the helpful information! I'm going to make sure I document everything clearly for when I apply. I'm still a bit confused about calculating self-employment income though. For W2 work it's clear - just look at the paystub. But for self-employment, do I count my gross income or net profit after expenses? And does it matter if clients pay me late for work done in a particular month?

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For self-employment, Social Security counts your NET earnings (after legitimate business expenses), not gross income. And yes, timing matters a lot - they care about when you actually performed the work, not when you got paid. So keep a detailed log of when you're performing services and for how much. This is something they can audit if they suspect you're trying to shift income between months or years. Also remember that with self-employment, they only count 92.35% of your net earnings when applying the earnings test (because of the employer portion of FICA taxes).

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my sister went thru this last yr and she ended up owing SS money cuz she didn't understand the rules...be SUPER careful!! the monthly limit sounds easy but they add in vacation pay and sick leave payouts too if u get any when u leave ur job!! and dont forget medicare - u need to sign up for that too when u start SS or u get penalties later!!

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Oh no, I hadn't even thought about vacation payout! I'll have about 3 weeks of vacation paid out when I leave. Does that count toward the earnings limit for September even though it's for work I did earlier in the year?

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Yes, vacation/sick payouts generally count as wages in the month you receive them. So if you get that vacation payout in September, it will count toward your September earnings even though it's for time accrued earlier. You might want to see if your employer can pay out your vacation in August before you claim benefits.

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One other thing to consider - the earnings limit for 2025 will be significantly higher than it is now. For 2024, the annual limit is $22,320 for those below FRA (which translates to $1,860 monthly for the grace year). For 2025, it will likely be around $23,500 based on COLA projections. Also, don't forget that only $1 of benefits is withheld for every $2 you earn above the limit. So even if you do exceed the limit by a bit, you don't lose all your benefits - just a portion.

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wait does that mean if u go over by $100 they only take away $50 from ur check?? that's not as bad as i thought! i was worried they'd take the whole month's payment

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Strongly recommend you create a my Social Security account at ssa.gov if you haven't already. You can get personalized benefit estimates there. Also, don't forget that the earnings test goes away completely once you reach your Full Retirement Age (around 67 for you). At that point, you can earn unlimited amounts without any reduction in benefits. Some people find it's actually better to wait until closer to FRA if they plan to continue substantial part-time work.

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I do have a my Social Security account already - that's a good idea to look at the personalized estimates again. I've thought about waiting until closer to my FRA, but honestly, I'm ready to leave my full-time job soon. Maybe I'll need to keep my self-employment income lower until I reach FRA.

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anyone know if IRA distributions count towards the earnings limit? i might retire next year too and was gonna use some of my IRA money

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Good question - IRA distributions, 401(k) withdrawals, pension payments, annuities, and investment income do NOT count toward the earnings limit. The limit only applies to earned income (wages or self-employment). So you can withdraw from your IRA without affecting your Social Security benefits.

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