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Social Security earnings limits after 70 - confused about FRA vs age 70 rules

I'm really confused about Social Security earnings limits and could use some clarification. I'm currently 69 (turning 70 in August 2025) and planning to start collecting my Social Security benefits then. I've been working full-time and delaying benefits to maximize my monthly amount. Here's where I'm confused - I was absolutely certain that once you reach your Full Retirement Age (mine was 66 and 4 months), you could earn unlimited income without affecting your Social Security benefits. But yesterday, my coworker mentioned something about a 2025 earnings limit of $61,160 and the Annual Retirement Earnings Test. Now I'm worried! Does this earnings test still apply to me even though I'm past my FRA? I'm earning about $85,000 annually and planned to continue working part-time after I start collecting. Will my earnings reduce my benefit amount? I've been planning my retirement around this for years and now I'm second-guessing everything!

Your coworker is confusing you unnecessarily. Once you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA), there is NO earnings limit. You can earn as much as you want without affecting your Social Security benefits. The $61,160 limit applies ONLY to people who are collecting Social Security before they reach their FRA. Since you're already past your FRA (66 and 4 months) and waiting until 70 to collect, you can earn any amount without penalty. In fact, you're doing exactly what financial planners often recommend - delaying benefits until 70 to maximize your monthly payment while continuing to work if you want to.

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Thank you so much for clearing that up! I was really starting to panic. So just to confirm - when I start collecting at 70, I can continue working part-time and earning whatever amount without any reduction to my Social Security benefits?

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ur coworker is wrong! i started collecting ss when i hit my FRA (66) and kept working full time making way more than that limit. no problems at all with my benefits. dont worry about it

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That's a relief to hear from someone with personal experience. Thank you!

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Yes, your coworker is mixing up two different scenarios. Let me clarify how the earnings test works: 1. BEFORE Full Retirement Age: If you claim benefits before reaching your FRA, the 2025 earnings limit is $22,320. For every $2 you earn above that limit, $1 is withheld from benefits. 2. YEAR OF reaching Full Retirement Age: In the months of 2025 BEFORE you reach your FRA, the higher limit of $61,160 applies. For every $3 you earn above that limit, $1 is withheld. 3. AFTER reaching Full Retirement Age: NO LIMITS APPLY. You can earn any amount without reduction in benefits. Since you've already passed your FRA and are waiting until 70, you're in category #3. You can earn $85,000, $185,000, or more - it doesn't matter. Your benefits will not be reduced.

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Wow this is super helpful! I'm 63 and working part time while collecting SS. Sounds like I'm in category #1 so I need to watch my earnings. I think I'm going over that $22,320 limit this year... ugh, wish I had known this earlier!

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Yes, you'd be in category #1. However, keep in mind that any benefits withheld due to excess earnings aren't lost forever. Once you reach your FRA, your monthly benefit will be recalculated to give you credit for the months when benefits were withheld.

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MY SISTER GOT HER BENEFITS CUT BECAUSE OF THIS!!!! She was 64 and working and they took away almost half her Social Security!!! The system is DESIGNED to confuse people! They never make these rules clear until AFTER they take your money!!!

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Your sister's situation is different from the original poster's. Your sister was under her Full Retirement Age when she was working, which is why the earnings limit applied to her. For anyone who has reached their Full Retirement Age, there is no earnings limit whatsoever. The rules are actually quite clear about this distinction.

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Maybe NOW they're clear but when my sister called SS they gave her 3 DIFFERENT ANSWERS about the limits! And nobody told her they would eventually adjust her benefit later. The whole system needs to be fixed!!!

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The real question nobody is asking - why are you waiting until 70? You've already missed out on years of benefits you could have been collecting since your FRA. The break-even point where delaying pays off is usually in your early 80s. If you don't live that long, you've left money on the table. I started collecting right at my FRA and invested a portion of each payment. Just something to think about...

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While that's a valid strategy for some, delaying until 70 provides an 8% per year increase in benefits from FRA to 70. This provides maximum lifetime income if you live longer than average and provides the largest survivor benefit for a spouse. It's insurance against longevity. Different strategies work for different situations, which is why personalized planning is important.

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I've thought about this a lot actually. My parents both lived into their mid-90s, and my spouse will depend on my benefit as a survivor benefit if I go first. The guaranteed 8% annual increase seemed like the best insurance policy for both longevity and protecting my spouse.

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Thanks for the tip! I've been worried about having to call them when I actually apply for benefits. Their phone lines are notoriously difficult to get through on. I'll keep this in mind for August.

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One more thing worth mentioning - even though there's no earnings limit after FRA, remember that up to 85% of your Social Security benefits may be subject to income tax depending on your combined income. This isn't the same as the earnings test (which won't apply to you), but it's something to be aware of for tax planning purposes if you'll be earning $85,000 plus Social Security.

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. I'll need to talk to my tax advisor about how to manage this. Do you know if there are strategies to minimize how much of my SS benefits will be taxed when I have other income?

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Yes, there are several strategies. Contributing to tax-advantaged accounts like traditional 401(k)s to lower your taxable income, timing Roth conversions carefully, and planning investment income can all help. A good tax advisor can create a personalized strategy based on your complete financial picture.

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just wondering why r u waiting till 70? i started at 67 and im happy i did. getting that money now to enjoy while im still active enough to travel

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This is actually a common dilemma people face. Mathematically, if you live past your early 80s, waiting until 70 provides more lifetime income. But as you point out, getting benefits earlier allows you to enjoy the money during potentially more active years. It's a personal decision based on health, family longevity, financial needs, and retirement plans.

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I just want to echo what everyone else has said - you're absolutely fine! I'm 72 and have been collecting Social Security since I turned 70 while continuing to work part-time. I earn about $60,000 a year and there's been zero impact on my benefits. Your coworker probably heard about the earnings limits that apply to people collecting benefits BEFORE their Full Retirement Age and got confused. The beauty of waiting until 70 like you're planning is that you get the maximum benefit amount AND complete freedom to earn whatever you want. It sounds like you've done your homework and made a smart financial decision. Don't let misinformation derail your well-thought-out plan!

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This is exactly the kind of real-world confirmation I was hoping to hear! Thank you for sharing your experience. It's so reassuring to know that someone in a similar situation has been doing exactly what I'm planning without any issues. Your comment about not letting misinformation derail a well-thought-out plan really hits home - I spent months researching this decision and nearly let one offhand comment from a coworker throw me into a panic. I feel much more confident now about sticking with my original plan to start collecting at 70 while continuing to work part-time.

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Just to add another data point - I'm 71 and have been collecting Social Security since I turned 70 while working a consulting job that brings in around $90,000 annually. Zero issues with my benefits being reduced. The key distinction is that once you reach your Full Retirement Age, the earnings test completely disappears. Your coworker is likely thinking of the rules that apply to people who claim benefits early (before their FRA). Those folks do face earnings limits, but that's not your situation at all. You've already passed your FRA and are waiting until 70 to maximize your benefit - you're in the clear to earn as much as you want without any penalty to your Social Security payments. The Social Security Administration's website has a clear section on this if you want official confirmation, but everyone here is giving you the correct information. Stick with your plan!

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Thank you so much for adding your experience! It's incredibly helpful to hear from multiple people who are actually living this scenario successfully. The fact that you're earning $90,000 annually while collecting full Social Security benefits at 71 is exactly the confirmation I needed. I was starting to second-guess years of careful planning based on one comment, but hearing from you, Arjun, and others who are doing exactly what I'm planning gives me complete confidence to move forward. I really appreciate you mentioning the SSA website too - I'll definitely check their official guidance just to have it all documented. This community has been amazing in clearing up my confusion!

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I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share my perspective as someone who just went through this exact situation! I turned 70 last month and started collecting Social Security while continuing to work part-time earning about $45,000 annually. Like you, I was initially confused by all the different rules and limits I kept hearing about. What I learned (and what everyone here is correctly telling you) is that there are essentially three different phases when it comes to earnings limits: 1. Before your FRA: Strict earnings limits apply with benefit reductions 2. The year you reach FRA: Higher earnings limit applies only until the month you reach FRA 3. After FRA: NO LIMITS WHATSOEVER Since you're already past your FRA and waiting until 70, you're in phase 3. I've been collecting for two months now while working and earning, and my benefits haven't been touched. The peace of mind is incredible after years of worrying about these rules! Your strategy of delaying until 70 while continuing to work is exactly what I did, and it's working out perfectly. Don't let workplace confusion derail a solid retirement plan - you've got this!

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Thank you so much for sharing your recent experience! It's incredibly reassuring to hear from someone who literally just went through this transition last month. Your three-phase breakdown is really helpful and makes the whole system much clearer. The fact that you've been successfully collecting for two months while earning $45,000 gives me complete confidence that my plan will work just fine. I really appreciate you mentioning the peace of mind aspect too - I didn't realize how much stress this confusion was causing me until I started getting all these helpful responses. It sounds like we followed very similar strategies, and knowing it's working out perfectly for you makes me feel so much better about moving forward with my August start date. Thanks for taking the time to share your experience as a newcomer - this community is fantastic!

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add my voice to reassure you that everyone here is absolutely correct! I'm 73 and have been in your exact situation. I delayed my Social Security until 70 and continued working - currently earning about $75,000 annually from my part-time consulting work. The confusion your coworker created is unfortunately very common. Many people mix up the rules that apply to early claimers (before FRA) with the rules for those who've reached or passed their Full Retirement Age. Once you're past FRA, the earnings test is completely eliminated - it's that simple. I've been collecting my maximized Social Security benefits for over 3 years now while earning substantial income, and there has never been any reduction or issue with my benefits. The Social Security Administration doesn't even ask about my earnings anymore since I'm past FRA. Your plan to start at 70 while continuing to work part-time is financially sound. You'll get the maximum possible monthly benefit PLUS unlimited earning potential. Don't let workplace misinformation shake your confidence in what sounds like a well-researched retirement strategy. You're making all the right moves!

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Thank you so much Sofia! As someone new to navigating Social Security, hearing from someone with 3+ years of real experience doing exactly what I'm planning is incredibly valuable. Your point about the Social Security Administration not even asking about earnings anymore once you're past FRA really drives home how clear-cut this rule is. It's amazing how one confused coworker can shake years of careful planning! I spent so much time researching the delay strategy and felt confident about it, but that one comment had me spiraling. This community has been absolutely wonderful in providing both the facts and real-world experiences that confirm I'm on the right track. Your mention of "maximized Social Security benefits PLUS unlimited earning potential" perfectly captures why I chose this approach. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience and reassure a newcomer who was unnecessarily second-guessing themselves!

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share some additional clarity that might help others who find themselves in similar confusion. I work as a benefits coordinator and see this misunderstanding frequently - people often conflate the earnings test rules that apply to different age groups. The key point everyone has correctly made is that the Annual Retirement Earnings Test has THREE distinct phases based on your age and FRA status, not just one universal rule. Your coworker likely heard about the $61,160 limit which applies specifically to people in the calendar year they reach FRA (and only for months BEFORE reaching FRA in that year). Since you're already 69 and past your FRA of 66 and 4 months, you're in the "no earnings limit" category. This means when you start collecting at 70, you could theoretically earn $200,000 annually and your Social Security benefits would remain completely untouched. What you're doing - delaying until 70 for maximum benefits while maintaining earning capacity - is actually the optimal strategy for many people in good health with family longevity. Don't let workplace confusion derail a sound financial plan. The Social Security Administration's official website clearly states this rule if you want written confirmation for your peace of mind!

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Thank you Oliver! As someone new to this community, I really appreciate your professional perspective as a benefits coordinator. Your breakdown of the three distinct phases of the earnings test is incredibly helpful - it makes so much more sense now why there's confusion when people mix up which rules apply to which situations. Your point about the $61,160 limit specifically applying to the calendar year someone reaches FRA (and only the months BEFORE reaching FRA) really clarifies where my coworker's information came from. They probably heard that number and didn't realize it has such specific applicability. It's reassuring to hear from a professional that my strategy of delaying until 70 while maintaining earning capacity is actually optimal for people in my situation. I feel much more confident now about proceeding with my August start date knowing I can earn my $85,000 annually without any impact on my benefits. This community has been amazing in providing both personal experiences and professional expertise to clear up my confusion. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge!

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to add my reassurance based on my recent experience! I just turned 71 last fall and have been in your exact situation. I delayed my Social Security benefits until age 70 while continuing to work full-time, earning about $95,000 annually. I had the same worry you're experiencing when a friend mentioned earnings limits, but I can confirm that everyone here is absolutely correct - once you've reached your Full Retirement Age, there are NO earnings limits whatsoever. I've been collecting my maximized Social Security benefits for over a year now while maintaining my full income, and there has been zero impact on my monthly payments. The Social Security Administration makes this very clear on their official website: the Annual Retirement Earnings Test only applies to people who claim benefits BEFORE reaching their Full Retirement Age. Since you're already 69 and past your FRA of 66 and 4 months, you're completely in the clear. Your strategy of waiting until 70 while continuing to work is exactly what I did, and it's been fantastic. You'll get the maximum possible monthly benefit (with those delayed retirement credits) AND complete freedom to earn whatever you want. Don't let workplace misinformation shake your confidence in what sounds like a well-planned retirement strategy - you're making all the right moves!

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Thank you so much Isabel! As a newcomer to this community myself, hearing from someone who literally just went through this exact transition is incredibly reassuring. Your experience of earning $95,000 annually while collecting maximized Social Security benefits for over a year is the perfect real-world confirmation I needed. It's amazing how workplace conversations can create such unnecessary anxiety! I spent months carefully researching my retirement strategy and felt confident about delaying until 70, but one confused comment from a coworker had me questioning everything. This community has been absolutely wonderful in providing both clear explanations and real experiences like yours. Your point about getting "maximum possible monthly benefit AND complete freedom to earn whatever you want" really captures why this strategy appealed to me in the first place. Knowing that you've successfully been living this reality for over a year gives me complete confidence to proceed with my August start date. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience - it means so much to someone who was unnecessarily second-guessing a well-researched plan!

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