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How will earnings before my FRA in August 2025 affect Social Security payments starting in September?

I'm turning my Full Retirement Age (FRA) in August 2025 and planning to start receiving my Social Security retirement benefits in September. I'm confused about the earnings test - does my income from January through August 2025 count against me for the earnings limit? I've been making about $42,000 a year at my part-time job and plan to continue working even after I start collecting benefits. Will SSA look at my total 2025 earnings or just what I earn after I reach FRA? I don't want to get hit with any unexpected deductions or have to pay anything back. Anyone dealt with this timing issue before?

Good news! Once you reach your FRA, the earnings test no longer applies. For 2025, SSA will apply the monthly earnings test for the months before your FRA. Your earnings after reaching FRA in August won't count toward the limit at all. Specifically, they'll look at January-August earnings. For 2023, the monthly limit was $1,770 (the yearly limit of $21,240 divided by 12), so the 2025 limit will be somewhat higher. If you earned over the monthly limit in any month before FRA, benefits would be reduced for that month. But starting with September 2025, you can earn as much as you want with no reduction!

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Lim Wong

Thank you! That's a relief. So if I'm understanding correctly, they'll look at each month individually from January-August? So if I earned $3,500 in January, that would be over the limit for that month, but it wouldn't affect my September payment?

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i went through this last yr. they dont care what u made once u hit fra. take ur benfits and keep working! 👍

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That's not entirely accurate. They DO care what you make in the months of the year BEFORE you reach FRA. The earnings limit applies on a month-by-month basis in the year you reach FRA, up until the month you actually reach FRA. After that month, no limits.

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The way Social Security handles the earnings test in your FRA year is special. For 2025, they'll only count earnings before the month you reach FRA. So if your FRA is in August: 1. From January-August, the 2025 monthly earnings limit applies (probably around $1,950-$2,000 per month based on recent COLA increases) 2. From September-December, NO earnings limit applies With your $42,000 annual salary, that's about $3,500 monthly - so you would exceed the monthly limit. Each month you exceed the limit before FRA, they withhold benefits for that month. But once you start benefits in September, you're good - no matter how much you earn after reaching FRA. Here's what your letter from SSA will probably say: "We included only the earnings you made before the month you reached full retirement age."

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But wait wouldnt they just take $1 in benefits for every $3 over the limit? thats what happened to my brother when he was working before his FRA

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Xan Dae

You guys are making this WAY too complicated. I just went through this mess last year. The SSA website is no help and forget trying to get someone on the phone! Here's what happened to me: I hit my FRA in October 2024 but kept working. They DEFINITELY looked at my income from January-September 2024 and I got a nice surprise letter 6 months later saying I earned too much and had to pay back $4,200!! 😡 So don't be shocked if they come after you later even when you think you've followed all their stupid rules. The SSA system is BROKEN.

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I'm sorry you had that experience, but it sounds like there might have been a misunderstanding or error in your case. If you earned over the annual limit (not the monthly limit) in 2024 before reaching FRA, then yes, they would assess an overpayment. But the rules are quite clear - once you reach FRA, earnings after that month don't count toward any limit.

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Lim Wong

Thanks for the tip! I've been trying to get through to SSA for weeks with no luck. I'll check this out since I'd really like to speak with someone official about my specific situation.

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One important detail that no one has mentioned yet: If you're planning to continue working after starting benefits, remember that your higher earnings could potentially increase your benefit amount in the future. SSA automatically reviews your record each year, and if your recent earnings are higher than one of the 35 years used to calculate your benefit, they'll recalculate and increase your monthly payment. So not only can you earn unlimited amounts after FRA without penalty, those earnings might actually boost your benefits!

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Lim Wong

That's great to know! I didn't realize working could actually increase my benefit amount. Since I had a few lower-earning years when raising kids, this might help me replace some of those years in my calculation.

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my sister said somethin different. she said they take ur TOTAL income for the year and divide by 12, and if that's over the limit they reduce bennefits. im so confused now!!!

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Your sister is describing how the earnings test works in years BEFORE the year you reach FRA. In those earlier years, they do look at annual earnings. But in the specific year you reach FRA (2025 for the original poster), they only count earnings in the months before you reach FRA, and they apply the test monthly. After FRA, no earnings test applies at all. It's confusing because the rules change depending on which year we're talking about relative to your FRA.

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I went through EXACTLY this last year. Here's what nobody tells you: make sure you're looking at your actual FRA date carefully. Mine was July 15, 2024, and I thought as long as I reached FRA in July, I was good for July. WRONG! According to SSA, you reach FRA on the day BEFORE your birthday. So I actually reached FRA on July 14, not July 15. What happened? They counted an extra month of my earnings against the limit! It took three calls and a visit to my local office to straighten it out. Double check your EXACT FRA date on your Social Security statement. It might not be what you think!

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Lim Wong

Oh wow, I hadn't considered that! I'll definitely check my statement to confirm the exact date. Thanks for pointing this out - could have caused me a headache later.

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