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Thanks everyone for the excellent advice! I'm going to help my wife apply for SSI to document her disability status, even though we expect to be denied due to our household income. We'll also work on gathering all her medical records and making sure her condition is well-documented. And we'll definitely use that phone service to speak directly with SSA about our specific situation. This community has been incredibly helpful - I feel much better informed about our options now. Turning off comments.
I'm glad you found all this advice helpful! Just wanted to add one small but important detail - when your wife applies for SSI to establish her disability status, make sure she keeps copies of EVERYTHING she submits. The initial application, all medical records, denial letters, everything. If she ever needs to apply for disabled widow's benefits later, having that complete paper trail will save you both a lot of headaches. Also, don't be discouraged if the SSI application gets denied initially - that's actually expected in your case due to household income, but the important thing is getting her condition officially reviewed and documented by SSA. Good luck to both of you!
This is such great additional advice! I hadn't thought about the importance of keeping copies of everything, but you're absolutely right - having that complete documentation trail will be crucial if we need it later. It's also reassuring to know that an initial SSI denial is expected in our situation and doesn't mean we've failed. We're just trying to get her disability status on record with SSA. Thank you for taking the time to add these important details!
One other piece of advice - if you expect to earn over the limit, you can voluntarily suspend your benefits for any months you expect to exceed it, rather than having SSA calculate the withholding. This can give you more control over when the reductions occur. Just contact SSA before the month you want to suspend. You can then resume benefits in months where your earnings will be lower.
Just wanted to add one more consideration for your planning - make sure you understand how the earnings test calculates "earnings." It only counts wages and net self-employment income, NOT things like pensions, 401k withdrawals, investment income, rental income, or other retirement income. So if you're transitioning to part-time work but also have other income sources, only your actual work earnings count toward that $22,320 limit. This might give you more flexibility in your income planning than you initially thought!
This is such an important clarification! I was actually worried about my 401k withdrawals and some rental income I have counting toward that limit. Knowing it's only actual work wages makes my planning so much easier. I was doing all these calculations trying to figure out how to manage multiple income streams, but now I realize I only need to worry about my part-time wages. Thank you for pointing this out - it's going to save me a lot of stress!
Thanks everyone for your helpful responses! This clears up so much for me before my appointment. I'll definitely keep detailed notes of my meeting with SSA and may try that Claimyr service if I need to call them afterward with questions. It's comforting to know what to expect now.
I'm sorry for your loss, StarStrider. Based on what others have shared here, I wanted to add one more consideration that might help with your decision timing. Since you're 63, you might want to calculate whether delaying survivor benefits until your FRA (which would eliminate that ~19% reduction) makes financial sense compared to claiming now. The break-even point is usually around 12-14 years, so if you expect to live past age 76-77, waiting could provide more lifetime benefits. Of course, this assumes you can manage financially without the benefits for the next few years. Also, if your own work record would provide a higher benefit than the survivor benefit, you might consider the "claim and switch" strategy others mentioned - take reduced survivor benefits now, then switch to your own (unreduced) retirement benefit at your FRA if it's higher. The SSA office should be able to run projections for you showing different scenarios. Don't hesitate to ask them to explain the numbers until you fully understand your options.
This is really helpful advice about the break-even analysis! I hadn't thought about calculating the lifetime benefit difference. At 63, I do hope to live well past 76-77, so waiting might make sense financially. The challenge is whether I can afford to wait those few years without the income. Do you know if there are any online calculators that can help estimate these different scenarios, or is this something only the SSA office can calculate accurately?
As someone who's been following Social Security policy changes closely, I want to add a few practical considerations for your decision. The WEP/GPO repeal is indeed a game-changer, but you're right to think carefully about timing. Since you mentioned having 11 zeros in your 35-year calculation, continuing to work until 70 serves a dual purpose: replacing those zeros with actual earnings AND getting the 8% delayed retirement credits. That's potentially a significant boost to your monthly benefit. Also, keep in mind that your teaching pension is substantial at $3,750/month, so you're not in a position where you desperately need the Social Security income right now. The math strongly favors waiting if you're in good health and have family longevity on your side. One tip: create a my Social Security account online if you haven't already - it should eventually reflect the WEP elimination in your benefit estimates, though as others noted, the system updates are still rolling out.
This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I hadn't thought about the dual benefit of working until 70 - both replacing zeros AND getting the delayed credits. That makes the decision much clearer. I do have a my Social Security account but you're right, the estimates still show the old WEP-reduced amounts. I'll keep checking periodically for updates. Given that I'm financially stable with my pension, waiting seems like the smart move. Thanks for breaking down all the factors so clearly!
Congratulations on reaching this milestone! The WEP/GPO repeal is absolutely life-changing for so many of us with government pensions. I'm in a similar boat - retired from the postal service with 28 years and have been agonizing over my Social Security timing. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly enlightening. The key insight that really resonates is that with your pension already providing solid income, you have the luxury of optimizing for maximum lifetime benefits rather than immediate need. With 11 zeros to replace and the 8% annual credits, waiting until 70 seems like a no-brainer mathematically. I'm curious though - have you considered what happens to your spousal benefits if you're married? The WEP elimination affects those calculations too. Also, for those still waiting on SSA system updates, I called last week and the representative mentioned they're expecting the new benefit calculations to be available online by late spring, so keep checking those estimates!
Thanks for bringing up spousal benefits - that's something I hadn't fully considered! I am married, and my spouse has their own Social Security record from private sector work, so the WEP elimination should help with any spousal benefit calculations too. Good to know about the late spring timeline for updated online estimates - I'll mark my calendar to check back then. It sounds like we're both in similar situations with government pensions giving us the flexibility to optimize timing. Your point about having the "luxury" to wait really puts it in perspective. Between replacing those zeros and the delayed credits, the math seems pretty clear. Appreciate you sharing your experience with calling SSA too!
Zara Malik
To summarize for the original poster: 1. The conversion from SSDI to retirement benefits will happen automatically in November - no action needed 2. The benefit amount will remain the same 3. Medicare coverage continues unchanged 4. Payment dates might shift slightly (retirement benefits have a different schedule than SSDI) 5. Working now (before FRA) involves navigating Trial Work Period rules and SGA limits 6. Working after reaching FRA in November has no earnings restrictions whatsoever Given these facts, and considering it's only a few months away, waiting until November to begin working is likely the simplest approach. This avoids any potential complications with TWP months, SGA limits, or triggering reviews.
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Freya Johansen
•Thank you for this clear summary. We've decided to wait until November to avoid any potential issues. I'll also prepare her for the possibility of payment date changes so we don't panic if that happens. I appreciate everyone's help!
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Zara Mirza
As someone who recently went through this transition myself, I can confirm what others have said - the conversion really is seamless! One small tip: when the payment date changes, it might also show up under a slightly different description on your bank statement (mine changed from "SSA SSDI" to "SSA RETIREMENT"). Don't let that throw you off! Also wanted to add that if your wife does decide to work before November, make sure she keeps detailed records of ALL earnings and hours worked. The SSA can be very particular about documentation if any questions come up later. Since you're so close to FRA though, waiting really does seem like the smartest move to avoid any potential headaches. Good luck with everything - it sounds like you're being very thoughtful about planning this transition!
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