Can I collect FERS supplement and Social Security survivor benefits simultaneously from age 60-62?
Hi everyone, I'm really confused about the rules between FERS and Social Security survivor benefits and hoping someone can clarify. My situation: I'm retiring from federal service at age 57 next year with 33 years of service. I'll be getting my FERS pension and the special retirement supplement until I turn 62. Here's where it gets complicated. My husband passed away last year, and I'll be eligible for Social Security survivor benefits when I turn 60. I've called the SSA office twice and received completely different answers about whether I can collect BOTH the FERS supplement AND the survivor benefit from age 60-62. The first rep said absolutely not - the FERS supplement counts as the same type of benefit. The second rep said they don't affect each other at all and I can collect both simultaneously. I plan to switch to my own Social Security at 62 (which will be around $2,400/month) since it's significantly higher than the survivor benefit ($1,750/month). At that point, my FERS supplement will stop anyway. I won't have any earned income during this period, so the earnings test isn't a factor. Has anyone navigated this specific situation successfully? I'd appreciate any insights before I try visiting my local SSA office in person.
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CosmicCommander
I think the second rep is right. The FERS supplement is different from actual SS benefits. My brother-in-law collects both his FERS supplement and his deceased wife's SS survivor benefits. Been doing it for like 18 months now with no problems.
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Oliver Zimmermann
•That's really helpful to know! Has your brother-in-law ever mentioned if there was any special paperwork or process to make sure both payments continue properly? I'm worried about getting caught in some automated system that flags it as an overpayment later.
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Natasha Volkova
The confusion stems from misunderstanding the FERS Supplement's relationship to Social Security. The FERS Special Retirement Supplement (SRS) is administered by OPM, not SSA, and is designed to approximate the Social Security benefit you would receive at age 62 based on your FERS civilian service. To directly answer your question: Yes, you CAN receive both the FERS Supplement and Social Security survivor benefits simultaneously. They are considered different benefits from different sources. However, be aware that while the FERS Supplement is subject to an earnings test (which won't affect you since you won't be working), your survivor benefits will also be subject to the Social Security earnings test until you reach your Full Retirement Age. When you start your own Social Security at 62, your FERS Supplement will automatically terminate, and you'll need to decide whether to continue with survivor benefits or switch to your own record, whichever is higher (sounds like you already know your own benefit will be higher). I recommend getting this confirmed in writing from OPM regarding the FERS supplement rules. Good luck!
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Oliver Zimmermann
•Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! This makes perfect sense. I'll definitely contact OPM to get this confirmed in writing. It's frustrating that the SSA reps gave conflicting information, but I guess that happens when benefits intersect between different systems.
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Javier Torres
Just to add a bit to what @User2 said - I retired under FERS and had a similar situation. The FERS supplement comes from OPM, not SSA, so they're completely separate systems. The first rep you spoke with was incorrect. However, I strongly recommend visiting your local SSA office IN PERSON and asking them to document this in your file. I had an issue where even though I was legally entitled to both benefits, the computer system flagged it and temporarily suspended my survivor benefits. It took 3 months to resolve because the person who processed my survivor application didn't make a note about my FERS supplement. Also, make sure you understand how the survivor benefit amount might be affected by taking it at 60 vs. your Full Retirement Age. There's a reduction for claiming early.
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Oliver Zimmermann
•This is exactly what I was worried about happening! I'll definitely go in person and make sure they document everything properly. Did you need to bring any specific documentation from OPM about your FERS supplement when you went to the SSA office?
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Emma Davis
My husbnd worked for post office for 30 years and I got widows bennies at 60 while he was getting his postal pension. SSA and OPM don't talk to eachother much so thats why you get different answers when you call. Nobody knows what there doing over there lol
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Oliver Zimmermann
•That's reassuring to hear you were able to collect both! And you're right - it really does seem like the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing sometimes. Did you have any issues with payments or did everything go smoothly?
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Malik Johnson
I'm going through this EXACT situation right now and it's been a NIGHTMARE!!!! I've been to my local office TWICE and called the 800 number FOUR TIMES!!! Each time I get different answers! One rep even told me I'd have to PAY BACK all my survivor benefits if I was getting the FERS supplement! I was in tears!!! Finally I got a supervisor who actually knew what she was talking about. YES you can get both at the same time. They are NOT the same benefit type. The FERS supplement is NOT Social Security even though it's calculated similarly. BRING YOUR FERS BENEFIT LETTER that shows it's the supplement when you go to apply for survivor benefits. They get confused because it has "Social Security" in the description sometimes. I'm so angry at how difficult they've made this process!!!!!
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Oliver Zimmermann
•Oh my goodness, I'm so sorry you went through all that stress! That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. Thank you for the tip about bringing the FERS benefit letter - I'll definitely do that. Did things finally get resolved correctly for you?
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Isabella Ferreira
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Oliver Zimmermann
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Isabella Ferreira
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Ravi Sharma
wait hang on im confused. are you talking about the FERS pension itself or the supplement? those are 2 different things. the supplement stops at 62 but the pension is forever right? sorry im not understanding your situation completely
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Natasha Volkova
•They're asking specifically about the FERS Special Retirement Supplement (SRS), which is the temporary payment that bridges the gap between early FERS retirement and age 62 when Social Security can begin. You're correct that the FERS pension itself continues for life. The question is whether the SRS can be received simultaneously with Social Security survivor benefits between ages 60-62.
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Emma Davis
One thing nobodys mentioned is the WEP and GPO rules. My friend got caught by this and had her SS reduced cause of her government pension. You should ask about that too while your there!!!
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Natasha Volkova
•Good point about WEP/GPO, but it's important to clarify that these wouldn't impact this specific situation. The Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) only affects your own Social Security benefit if you receive a pension from work not covered by Social Security. The Government Pension Offset (GPO) affects spousal or survivor benefits if you receive a government pension from non-covered work. Since FERS employees pay into Social Security, neither WEP nor GPO apply to their FERS pension or supplement. However, it's always good to confirm this with SSA when discussing your specific situation.
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Oliver Zimmermann
Thank you all so much for your helpful responses! I'm feeling much more confident now. I'm going to schedule an in-person appointment at my local SSA office and bring all my FERS documentation clearly showing it's the supplement. I'll make sure they document in my file that I'm eligible for both benefits simultaneously. It's frustrating that there's so much conflicting information out there, even from SSA representatives themselves. I'm glad I checked here before making any decisions. I'll update after my appointment in case it helps anyone else in a similar situation.
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