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Can I receive Social Security survivor benefits at 62 while working and switch to my own benefit at FRA?

I'm trying to understand my options as a widow approaching retirement age. I'm currently 62 and working full-time, while my husband passed away 3 years ago when he was 62 (I was 59 at the time). A colleague mentioned I could potentially apply for survivor benefits now even though I'm still working, but they'd be reduced due to the earnings test. From what I understand, they would deduct $1 from my survivor benefits for every $2 I earn above the annual income limit. Then when I reach my full retirement age (67), I could switch from the reduced survivor benefits to my own retirement benefits without any reduction since I'd be at FRA. This seems like a good strategy, but I'm worried there's a catch I'm missing. Is this actually how it works? Should I try calling the SSA directly or schedule an in-person appointment to confirm this approach? I've heard horror stories about waiting on hold for hours with the SSA phone line, so I'm not sure which approach is better.

Yes, your understanding is mostly correct! You can claim survivor benefits now at 62 (reduced for early claiming) and they'll be subject to the earnings test while you're working. Then at your FRA (67), you can switch to your own retirement benefit if it would be higher. A few important details: 1. Survivor benefits at 62 are reduced to 71.5% of what your husband would have received 2. The 2025 earnings limit is $23,520, so every $2 you earn above that means $1 less in benefits 3. Once you reach FRA, the earnings test disappears completely I'd recommend making an appointment rather than calling - you'll get more dedicated time with a representative for this kind of planning.

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Thank you for confirming! I wasn't aware of the exact percentage reduction (71.5%). My earnings are about $67,000/year, so I'm quite a bit over that limit. Would that mean I might not receive any survivor benefits at all until I reduce my work hours or stop working?

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DONT TRUST WHAT RANDOM PPL TELL YOU ABOUT SS BENEFITS!!! I got told the EXACT same thing when my wife died, but when I finally got thru to SSA they told me something COMPLETELY different about how my benefits would work! The agents there contradict each other too!!! The whole system is designed to cheat you out of benefits you EARNED. Make sure you DEMAND to speak to a supervisor or technical expert when you call. They hide the truth from you otherwise!

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While it's true that you should verify any Social Security strategy with SSA directly, the information provided above about survivor benefits while working is actually correct according to SSA's own rules. The earnings test does apply to survivor benefits claimed before FRA, and you can indeed switch strategies at FRA. The confusion often comes from people's unique situations affecting how these general rules apply to them specifically.

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im in a similar situation my husband passed 2 yrs ago. i tried calling but couldnt get thru so i went to the local office last month. they confirmed what ur thinking is right but said with ur income u might not get much until u reach fra or cut back hours. but its still worth applying bc even if u get a small amount now its extra $ and u can switch later

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Thanks for sharing your experience. Did you have to bring any specific documents to your appointment? I'm wondering what I should prepare if I go in person.

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bring ur id ss card birth certificate marriage certificate & husband death certificate. also ur most recent w2 or pay stub so they can see ur earnings. & bank info for direct deposit

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I thought survivor benefits and spousal benefits were the same thing? My neighbor gets survivors but I get spousal benefits from my ex-husband who's still alive. Are we talking about the same benefit or is this something different? Social Security is so confusing!

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They're actually different benefits: - Survivor benefits: When your spouse has passed away (what the original poster is asking about) - Spousal benefits: Based on a living current spouse's record - Ex-spousal benefits: Based on a living former spouse's record (if you were married 10+ years) Each has different rules for when you can claim and how much you receive. Survivor benefits can be claimed as early as age 60 (or 50 if disabled), while spousal benefits start at 62.

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One important detail that hasn't been mentioned: if you were born after 1954, the "restricted application" strategy works ONLY for survivor benefits, not for spousal benefits. This means you're correct that you can take reduced survivor benefits now (subject to earnings test reductions) and then switch to your own retirement benefit at FRA if it's higher. With your income level ($67,000 mentioned in a comment), you would lose approximately $21,740 of benefits to the earnings test annually: ($67,000 - $23,520) ÷ 2 = $21,740 So if your full survivor benefit after the 71.5% reduction would be less than $1,811 monthly, you might not receive any payments until you reduce hours or reach FRA.

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Thank you for the detailed calculation. That helps me understand why I might not see much benefit now. But am I still building delayed retirement credits on my own record during this time even if I apply for survivor benefits?

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Yes, that's one of the advantages of this strategy. While receiving survivor benefits (even if mostly withheld due to the earnings test), your own retirement benefit continues to grow until age 70 if you don't claim it. Each year you delay claiming your own benefit beyond FRA increases it by 8% (plus any COLA adjustments).

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My condolences on losing your husband. I went through this too and waited on hold with SS for almost 4 hours!! When I finally got someone they were helpful but it was so frustrating. Definitely make an appointment if you can. The earnings limit thing is real - I had to reduce my hours at work to actually see any survivor money before my FRA.

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Thank you. It's been hard adjusting to life without him. It sounds like making an appointment is the consensus recommendation. Did reducing your hours work out financially in the end?

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when you talk to ssa ask them what happens if u work part time instead of full time. i reduced to 25 hrs a week and now i get some survivors and its working better for me. less stress too

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That's definitely something to consider. I've been thinking about scaling back anyway. Maybe this is the push I needed. I'll ask about different income scenarios when I meet with them.

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Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! I've scheduled an appointment at my local SSA office for next week, and I'm gathering all the documents suggested. I'm going to ask about various scenarios with reduced hours too. It sounds like my original understanding was mostly correct, but the earnings test will likely eliminate most of my survivor benefits unless I cut back on work. I'll update after my appointment in case it helps anyone else in a similar situation.

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