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I've been following this thread and wanted to add one more resource that might be helpful for your situation. Since you're dealing with the complexity of teacher pensions and Social Security, you might want to check if your state has a SHINE program (State Health Insurance Assistance Program). While they're primarily known for Medicare counseling, many SHINE counselors are also trained on Social Security issues and can provide free, unbiased advice about benefit strategies. Also, I noticed someone mentioned the online Retirement Estimator - that's great for getting rough numbers, but since you have the WEP/GPO complications, those estimates might not be accurate for your actual situation. The tool doesn't account for government pensions, so definitely don't rely on those numbers alone for your decision. One practical tip for your SSA appointment: if possible, bring your husband's Social Security statement or any records you have of his earnings. Sometimes having that information handy can help speed up the process of calculating your widow's benefit, especially if there are any discrepancies in their system. You're getting excellent advice here, and I can tell you're going to be well-prepared for this decision. The fact that you're taking the time to understand all your options will really pay off in the long run. Wishing you the best as you navigate this process!

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Thank you for mentioning the SHINE program - I had never heard of that before! I'll definitely look into whether my state has one since getting free, unbiased advice sounds exactly what I need right now. And that's a really important point about the Retirement Estimator not accounting for government pensions - I'm glad you warned me about that before I got my hopes up with potentially inaccurate numbers. I do have some of my husband's old Social Security statements in his files, so I'll make sure to bring those to my appointment. It's amazing how much I've learned from everyone here - I went from feeling completely lost to having a solid plan for getting the information I need. This community has been incredible, and I feel so much more confident about tackling this complex situation now. Thank you all for taking the time to help a newcomer navigate this!

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I'm so glad you found this community and asked these important questions! Reading through all the excellent advice here, I can see you're getting a really comprehensive picture of your options. As a newcomer to navigating Social Security benefits myself, I wanted to share something that might help - when I was researching similar questions for my own family situation, I found that having a written timeline really helped clarify things. You might want to create a simple chart showing what your monthly income would look like under different scenarios (taking retirement at 62 vs waiting, taking widow's benefits now vs later, etc.) once you get those calculations from SSA. Also, since everyone has mentioned how crucial the WEP/GPO calculations are for your teacher's pension, you might want to ask SSA to put those specific reduction amounts in writing when you meet with them. That way you can review the numbers at home without feeling rushed during the appointment. The fact that you're asking these questions now, before making any decisions, shows you're going to make the best choice for your situation. It sounds like you have several potentially good strategies to choose from once you get all the numbers. Best of luck with your SSA appointment - you've got this!

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What a great suggestion about creating a written timeline and chart! I'm definitely a visual person, so seeing the different scenarios laid out month by month would really help me compare my options clearly. And asking SSA to put the WEP/GPO reduction amounts in writing is such smart advice - I can already tell from everyone's responses here that these appointments can involve a lot of complex information, and having those key numbers on paper to review later will be so helpful. I'm feeling much more organized and prepared thanks to all the practical tips from everyone. It's reassuring to hear from someone else who's been through the research process for their family - it makes me feel less alone in trying to figure all this out. Thank you for the encouragement and for adding another helpful strategy to my toolkit!

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I'm so sorry for your loss and the frustration you're experiencing with this delay. As a newcomer here, I've been reading through these discussions and it's clear that estate underpayment claims like yours are unfortunately common and often take longer than they should. From what everyone has shared, it sounds like you've done everything correctly - filing the SSA-1724 with proper documentation showing you're the executor. The fact that you're now approaching 6 months definitely warrants more aggressive follow-up. I'd suggest combining several of the strategies mentioned here: call early morning using those specific questions about alerts/holds and fund confirmation status, document everything in writing, and don't hesitate to escalate to a supervisor or even your congressional office if you continue getting vague responses. Your husband's estate is absolutely entitled to that March payment since he lived the entire month, and at this point the delay seems unreasonable. Keep advocating for yourself - you shouldn't have to wait indefinitely for money that rightfully belongs to the estate.

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Thank you for the encouragement! As someone new to dealing with estate issues, this whole process has been overwhelming, but reading everyone's experiences here has been really helpful. I'm definitely going to be more persistent with my follow-up calls. It's reassuring to know that the 6-month mark I'm approaching is actually beyond what's normal, so I have good reason to push harder for answers rather than just continuing to wait patiently. I really appreciate how supportive this community has been in helping me understand both my rights and the best strategies for getting this resolved.

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I'm so sorry for your loss and the additional stress this bureaucratic delay is causing you during an already difficult time. As a newcomer to this community, I've been reading through everyone's helpful advice and wanted to add a few thoughts. You're absolutely right to pursue this - your husband's estate is entitled to that March payment since he was alive for the entire month. The fact that you're now at 6+ months is definitely beyond the normal 4-6 month processing time everyone mentions. Based on what I've read here, I'd suggest trying a multi-pronged approach: First, call early morning (8am) with those specific questions others outlined about alerts, holds, and fund confirmation status. Second, if that doesn't yield results, definitely consider reaching out to your congressional representative's office - they can often cut through bureaucratic delays much faster than individual calls. One thing I noticed from similar posts is that sometimes these claims get stuck on technical issues that aren't communicated clearly. The suggestion about confirming SSA actually received the returned funds is particularly important since there can be delays between when you see the bank withdrawal and when their system registers it. Keep detailed notes of every interaction and don't accept vague "it's in queue" responses. You deserve specific answers about what's preventing this from moving forward. Hang in there - you're advocating for something the estate is rightfully owed.

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Thank you for this comprehensive advice! As someone who's been feeling pretty lost navigating this whole process, it's incredibly helpful to have a clear action plan laid out. You're right that I need to stop accepting vague responses - I've been too passive about this, probably because I was overwhelmed with everything else that comes with losing a spouse and settling an estate. The multi-pronged approach makes a lot of sense. I'll start with the early morning calls using those specific questions about alerts and fund confirmation, but it's good to know the congressional office option is there as a backup if SSA continues to be unresponsive. I definitely should have been keeping better notes from the beginning, but I'll start documenting everything going forward. It's frustrating that what should be a straightforward process has become this complicated, but I feel much more prepared to advocate effectively now thanks to everyone's insights here. Really appreciate this community's support during a difficult time.

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I'm so sorry for your loss. Losing a spouse after so many years together is heartbreaking, and dealing with government paperwork during this time feels impossible. Everyone here has given you solid advice about needing to call SSA. I wanted to share something that helped me when I was dreading making difficult phone calls during my own family crisis - I set aside a specific day and time for it, made sure I had everything I needed within reach, and told myself I only had to make the call, not solve everything in one conversation. One thing I don't think anyone mentioned yet: if you're feeling too overwhelmed to handle the call yourself right now, you might be able to have a trusted family member or friend make the initial contact with you present. They can't make decisions for you, but they can help navigate the conversation while you're listening. Some people find this less intimidating than going it alone. Also, many local Area Agencies on Aging have volunteers who are trained to help people navigate Social Security applications. They can't make the call for you, but they can sit with you and help you understand the process. It might be worth looking into if you have one in your area. Take your time, be gentle with yourself, and remember that thousands of people go through this process every month. The system may be confusing, but you will get through it.

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Aaron, this is such helpful advice. The idea of setting aside a specific day and time for the call really resonates with me - I think part of what's been making this feel so overwhelming is that it's just been this looming task without any structure around it. Having a plan and knowing I only need to start the conversation, not solve everything, makes it feel much more manageable. I hadn't thought about having someone help navigate the conversation while I listen - that might be exactly what I need right now. My daughter has offered to help but I wasn't sure how that would work practically. I'm also going to look into the Area Agencies on Aging resources you mentioned. Thank you for the reminder that thousands of people do this every month. Sometimes when you're in the middle of something difficult, it feels like you're the only one going through it. I really appreciate everyone's patience and support in this thread.

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I'm so very sorry for your loss. Losing your husband after 38 years must be incredibly difficult, and having to navigate government systems during your grief feels overwhelming - that's completely understandable. Everyone here has given you excellent guidance that survivor benefits require calling SSA rather than applying entirely online. I wanted to add something that might help with the actual phone experience: consider using the SSA's callback feature if available, or try calling on Tuesday-Thursday mid-morning (around 10 AM) when call volumes tend to be slightly lower than Mondays/Fridays. When you do get through, don't hesitate to ask the representative to speak slowly or repeat information. Let them know you're recently widowed and feeling overwhelmed - they encounter this situation frequently and most are very understanding. You can also ask them to explain the difference between survivor benefits and retirement benefits, as understanding both options will help you make the best decision for your situation. Remember, that first call is just to start the process and gather information. You don't need to make any final decisions immediately. Take notes if you can, or have someone with you to help remember the details. You're taking the right steps by reaching out for help here first. This community clearly cares about supporting you through this difficult process.

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Keisha, thank you for such thoughtful and practical advice. The specific timing suggestions (Tuesday-Thursday mid-morning) are really helpful - I've been avoiding the call partly because I had no idea when would be better to try. I also really appreciate your reminder that I can ask them to speak slowly or repeat things. I've been worried about seeming incompetent or holding up their time, but you're right that they probably deal with people in my situation regularly. The idea of letting them know upfront that I'm recently widowed and overwhelmed is something I hadn't considered, but it makes sense that context would help them be more patient. Your reassurance that the first call is just to start gathering information and that I don't have to decide everything immediately really helps reduce the pressure I've been putting on myself. Thank you for the gentle guidance and for acknowledging how difficult this whole situation is. It means more than you know.

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As a newcomer to this community, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful and informative this entire thread has been! CosmicCruiser, congratulations on your new job - what a wonderful outcome! Reading through everyone's responses really highlights how important it is to get accurate information from people who've actually dealt with these situations firsthand. The consistent message from experienced community members that your income won't affect your children's survivor benefits must have been such a relief to hear. It's also educational to see the clarifications about different types of benefits (survivor benefits vs. SSI) and how the earnings limits work. This is exactly the kind of real-world guidance that makes such a difference for families navigating these complex systems. Thank you to everyone who shared their knowledge and experiences - it's clear this community is a valuable resource for anyone dealing with Social Security benefits!

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Welcome to the community, Zadie! I'm also new here and have been really moved by this entire discussion. What's so wonderful about this thread is seeing how CosmicCruiser went from anxiety about a major career decision to confidence and excitement - all thanks to the generous knowledge-sharing from experienced community members. As a newcomer myself, I've learned so much about how survivor benefits work and how they're completely separate from parental income. It's threads like this that show the real value of peer support when dealing with government programs that can seem overwhelming. The fact that CosmicCruiser can now start her new $72,000 position knowing her children's benefits are secure is just the perfect outcome. Thank you to all the experienced members who took the time to share their insights - this community is clearly a treasure for anyone navigating these complex benefit systems!

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As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to express how incredibly valuable this entire discussion has been to read! CosmicCruiser, huge congratulations on your new job - what an amazing outcome! This thread is such a perfect example of why community support matters so much when dealing with Social Security benefits. Seeing how you went from genuine worry about potentially losing your children's benefits to confidently accepting a great career opportunity really shows the power of getting accurate information from people with real experience. The consistent reassurance from multiple members that your income has zero impact on your kids' survivor benefits must have been such a weight off your shoulders. I've learned so much just from reading through everyone's responses, especially the important distinctions between different benefit programs. It's wonderful that your family now has both the continued survivor benefits AND the stability of your new full-time position. Thank you to all the experienced members who shared their knowledge - this community is clearly an invaluable resource for navigating these complex systems!

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Glad you got confirmation! One last tip - schedule the appointment for AFTER you've submitted your own retirement application. Her benefits are dependent on yours being processed first. You can actually apply for both at the same time, but make sure your retirement application is mentioned first when you schedule the appointment.

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Thank you for this tip! I would have done it backward. I'll make sure to apply for my retirement first and then handle her application.

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Just wanted to add another piece of info that might be helpful - when you do apply for your daughter's benefits, they'll be retroactive up to 6 months from your application date (but not before your retirement benefits start). So even if there's a delay in getting the appointment scheduled, you won't lose out on those monthly payments. The SSA will calculate back to when she first became eligible and issue any back payments in a lump sum with her first check. This was really helpful for us when there was a 2-month delay getting all our paperwork processed!

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That's really good to know about the retroactive payments! I was worried that any delays in scheduling might cost us money, but knowing they'll backdate up to 6 months is reassuring. Two months for processing doesn't sound too bad either - I was expecting it might take much longer given how hard it's been just to get through on the phone. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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