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I'm so sorry for your loss, Ravi. Losing a family member is heartbreaking, and dealing with these administrative details while grieving makes everything so much more overwhelming. Everyone here has given you excellent advice - you absolutely can keep that October payment since it was for September benefits. I went through this same situation when my mother passed away two years ago, and I remember that exact panic about potentially having to return money we'd already spent on funeral costs. One thing that really helped me was calling SSA first thing in the morning (around 8 AM) to avoid longer wait times, and I made sure to have all her documents ready - Social Security number, date of birth, and death certificate info. The agent was very understanding and walked me through everything clearly. Also, make sure to ask about survivor benefits when you call - sometimes families don't realize what they may be entitled to during these difficult times. And if she was receiving Medicare, SSA can often help coordinate those notifications too. You're handling this exactly right by getting accurate information first. This community has given you solid guidance, and you have a clear path forward. Take care of yourself during this incredibly difficult time.
I'm so deeply sorry for your loss, Ravi. Losing a mother-in-law is incredibly difficult, and having to navigate these confusing administrative details while you're grieving just adds so much stress to an already overwhelming time. I can see that this community has provided you with absolutely accurate and consistent information - you can definitely keep that October payment since it was for September benefits, and your mother-in-law was alive for all of September. Social Security's payment-in-arrears system is really confusing to most people, so don't feel bad about the initial uncertainty. I went through this exact situation when my father-in-law passed away last year, and I remember that same panic about potentially having to return funeral money we'd already spent. The relief when I learned we could keep the September payment was enormous. When you call SSA tomorrow, I'd suggest having her Social Security number, date of birth, and death certificate information ready, and consider calling right at 8 AM when wait times are typically shorter. Don't hesitate to ask for a reference number for your call and confirmation that no future payments will be issued. You're handling this exactly right by seeking accurate information before taking action. This community has shown incredible kindness and knowledge, and you have all the guidance you need to move forward confidently. Take care of yourself and lean on family and friends during this heartbreaking time.
This is such a valuable thread for anyone dealing with survivor benefits! I'm a newcomer here but wanted to share that I had a similar experience last month. The first SSA rep I spoke with gave me completely wrong information about my survivor FRA (said it was 67 when it's actually 66 and 8 months for my birth year). Like others mentioned, calling back made all the difference. The second rep not only gave me the correct FRA but also explained that I could get the month-by-month breakdown showing different benefit amounts. She even walked me through when to apply to avoid any gaps in payments. It's frustrating that there's such inconsistency in the information provided, but this community really helps people navigate these challenges. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences - it's clear that persistence is key when dealing with SSA!
Welcome to the community! Your experience really reinforces what we've all been saying about the importance of calling multiple times when dealing with SSA. It's concerning how common these misinformation issues seem to be, but I'm glad you got it sorted out in the end. The fact that the second rep actually walked you through the timing for applications is great - that kind of detailed guidance can make such a huge difference in avoiding payment gaps or other complications. Thanks for sharing your story, it's definitely going to help others who find themselves in similar situations!
Welcome to the community! As someone who's been dealing with SSA for years, I can't stress enough how important stories like yours are for helping others navigate the system. The inconsistency in information from different representatives is unfortunately very common, and it's exactly why we always recommend getting a second (or third) opinion when something doesn't sound right. Your experience perfectly illustrates why persistence pays off - that difference between 67 and 66 + 8 months could mean thousands of dollars in benefits you might have missed out on if you'd accepted the first answer. And getting that month-by-month breakdown is such a valuable tool for planning. For anyone reading this who's in a similar situation: don't hesitate to ask for supervisors if you're getting conflicting information, and always request documentation of what you're told. The SSA system is complex, but you deserve accurate information to make these crucial financial decisions.
Thanks everyone for your helpful responses! This clears up so much for me before my appointment. I'll definitely keep detailed notes of my meeting with SSA and may try that Claimyr service if I need to call them afterward with questions. It's comforting to know what to expect now.
I'm sorry for your loss, StarStrider. Based on what others have shared here, I wanted to add one more consideration that might help with your decision timing. Since you're 63, you might want to calculate whether delaying survivor benefits until your FRA (which would eliminate that ~19% reduction) makes financial sense compared to claiming now. The break-even point is usually around 12-14 years, so if you expect to live past age 76-77, waiting could provide more lifetime benefits. Of course, this assumes you can manage financially without the benefits for the next few years. Also, if your own work record would provide a higher benefit than the survivor benefit, you might consider the "claim and switch" strategy others mentioned - take reduced survivor benefits now, then switch to your own (unreduced) retirement benefit at your FRA if it's higher. The SSA office should be able to run projections for you showing different scenarios. Don't hesitate to ask them to explain the numbers until you fully understand your options.
This is really helpful advice about the break-even analysis! I hadn't thought about calculating the lifetime benefit difference. At 63, I do hope to live well past 76-77, so waiting might make sense financially. The challenge is whether I can afford to wait those few years without the income. Do you know if there are any online calculators that can help estimate these different scenarios, or is this something only the SSA office can calculate accurately?
this whole system is rigged to CONFUSE US!! my neighbor got diff advice from EVERY ssa rep she talked to!! good luck figuring it out!!
I'm new to this community but wanted to share my recent experience with survivor benefits timing. I just went through this process last month after my wife passed away two years ago. The key thing I learned is that SSA has a "protective filing" option where you can call and establish your intent to file, which gives you up to 6 months to complete the full application while preserving your benefit start date. This was a lifesaver for me because I was unsure about the exact timing. Given your earnings situation, I'd definitely recommend waiting until after you stop working in September 2025. But consider calling SSA in August to establish a protective filing for October benefits - that way you don't miss any potential benefit months while still avoiding the earnings test complications. Also, get everything in writing when you do apply. I learned this the hard way when there was confusion about my benefit start date, and having the written confirmation from my initial call helped resolve it quickly.
Yuki Ito
Thank you everyone for the helpful replies! I think I understand better now - I get 9 months where I can earn any amount, then after that I need to stay under $1,550 to keep benefits. I've scheduled a call with SSA through that Claimyr service someone mentioned to confirm everything before I accept this job. Really appreciate all the detailed explanations!
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Zoe Papanikolaou
•That's correct! One important thing to remember: those 9 Trial Work Period months don't have to be consecutive, but they do expire eventually. They count any month you earn over $1,110 (for 2025), and once you use all 9 months within a rolling 60-month period, your TWP is over. Good luck with your work opportunity!
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Mei-Ling Chen
Just wanted to add a couple of important points for anyone else reading this thread: 1. **Report earnings immediately** - Don't wait until the end of the year! SSA requires you to report any work activity within 10 days of starting work, and then report monthly earnings by the 6th of the following month. Late reporting can cause overpayments that you'll have to pay back. 2. **Keep detailed records** - Track every paycheck, work expense, and any correspondence with SSA. If there's ever a dispute about your earnings or work status, having documentation is crucial. 3. **Consider getting help** - If your work situation is complicated (like irregular hours, self-employment, or multiple income sources), consider working with a disability advocate or attorney who specializes in SSA work incentives. The initial consultation is often free. The work incentives are really designed to help people transition back to work gradually, but the key is understanding and following the rules precisely. Good luck to everyone trying to get back into the workforce!
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NightOwl42
•This is really helpful advice! I'm new to this whole process and didn't realize how strict the reporting requirements were. Quick question - when you say "report monthly earnings by the 6th of the following month," does that mean I need to call SSA every single month, or is there an online portal where I can submit this information? Also, do work expenses like transportation to/from work count as deductible expenses that could reduce my countable income?
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