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Can I work unlimited hours while collecting Social Security at FRA? Self-employment vs regular employment confusion

I'm super confused about working while collecting Social Security benefits. Someone told me there's a limit on how many hours I can work if I'm self-employed, but not if I work for an employer? Is that accurate? I'll reach my Full Retirement Age (FRA) in April 2025, but I've already applied to start receiving benefits in January 2025 (with first payment coming in February). Can I work full-time at my regular W-2 job until April without penalty? Or is there a monthly earnings limit I need to watch for those first 3 months? And once I hit FRA in April, can I really earn unlimited income regardless of whether I'm self-employed or not? The SSA website is confusing me more than helping!

Amina Sow

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The confusion is about earnings limits, not specifically hours worked. Here's how it actually works: 1. In the months BEFORE you reach FRA (January-March 2025 for you), you're subject to the monthly earnings limit ($1,850/month for 2025) 2. Once you reach FRA in April 2025, you can earn unlimited income without ANY reduction in benefits - regardless of whether you're self-employed OR a W-2 employee Self-employment does have additional scrutiny, but not an hours limit per se. The SSA might look at your work activity to determine if you've truly "retired" when you're self-employed. This mostly matters for disability benefits though, not retirement.

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Paolo Conti

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Thank you so much! So if I understand correctly, from Jan-March I need to stay under $1,850/month to avoid penalties, but starting in April I can earn as much as I want with no impact on my benefits? That's a relief! Did I get that right?

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GalaxyGazer

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my sister had the same question last year!! she worked part time at walmart while starting SS and they never asked her about hours just how much $$$ she made. once she hit her FRA date she went back to full time and gets her full social security check every month no problem

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Oliver Wagner

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That's correct, but it's important to clarify that self-employment doesn't have an hours restriction specifically - that's a common misconception. The SSA does look more carefully at self-employment to ensure you've legitimately retired (they look at role changes, hours, etc.), but this mainly applies to disability claims, not retirement benefits. For retirement benefits, it's purely about the earnings threshold before FRA.

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I got bit by this exact issue!!! I started benefits 5 months before my FRA and kept working at my accounting practice. I had NO IDEA about the earnings limit and ended up with a $7,400 overpayment notice because I earned too much. The worst part is they take it all back at once if they can - not monthly! Be SUPER careful about those 3 months before your FRA. After FRA, yes you can work as much as you want with no penalty. But those few months before - watch out!

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This is why it's so crucial to understand the earnings test. For 2025, you can earn up to $1,850 monthly in the months before your FRA without reduction. Beyond that, SSA reduces benefits by $1 for every $2 over the limit. Once you reach FRA, there's no limit regardless of employment type. Also worth noting - if benefits are withheld due to excess earnings, you actually receive credit for those months when you reach FRA, and your monthly benefit increases.

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Emma Thompson

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Actually I think the rules are different for people who are SELF employed vs regular jobs. My neighbor had an issue with this. Something about "substantial services" if your self employed. Theres some kind of 45 hour per month rule if your a business owner or something??? Not sure how that works exactly but regualr jobs just have the earning limit like others said.

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Malik Davis

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OMG this is why i hate dealing with social security!! Every time I think I understand something there's some weird exception or rule nobody mentioned! 😩 How is anyone supposed to know all this stuff?? The 45 hour thing sounds scary - is that real??

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Amina Sow

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To clarify the confusion: For RETIREMENT benefits (which is what you're applying for), the only thing that matters is the earnings limit before FRA. Once you reach FRA, unlimited earnings are allowed regardless of employment type. The "substantial services" and hours worked guidelines for self-employment mainly apply to DISABILITY benefits (SSDI), not retirement benefits. This is a common point of confusion. For your situation: Just stay under $1,850/month for January-March 2025, then earn whatever you want starting April 2025 when you reach FRA.

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Paolo Conti

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That makes so much more sense! Thank you for clearing up the confusion. I was getting worried about all these special rules for self-employment. So to confirm - the ONLY thing I need to worry about is staying under the $1,850 earnings limit in those first 3 months, and then after April it doesn't matter what type of work I do or how much I earn?

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One important note that hasn't been mentioned: Social Security counts EARNED income in the month it's earned, not when it's paid. So if you work in March but get paid in April, that income still counts for March regarding the earnings limit. And yes, after FRA, the earnings test disappears completely regardless of employment type. Work as much as you want, earn as much as you want. If you do exceed the limit in those first few months, you'll need to report the change to SSA. They'll recalculate your benefits and may apply an overpayment.

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GalaxyGazer

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this happend to my brother in law!!! he worked december but got paid january and it messed up his SS payment they sent him a letter about overpayment it was a huge headache!!!

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Oliver Wagner

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Just to add another point - if you're concerned about staying within those earnings limits for Jan-Mar, have you thought about delaying your benefits to start in April when you reach FRA? That would eliminate any risk of overpayments or reductions. Filing at FRA would also mean a higher monthly payment than filing 3 months early. Not a huge difference, but something to consider if you're still working anyway.

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Paolo Conti

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That's a good suggestion! I hadn't considered that. I wonder if I can still change my filing date since I've already applied. Would be worth avoiding the headache of watching my earnings for those 3 months.

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Malik Davis

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I spent THREE WEEKS trying to call Social Security to ask about this exact issue!!! Nobody ever picks up and when they do the line disconnects after waiting for an hour! So frustrating!!

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Emma Thompson

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Try using Claimyr.com - I used it last month when I was dealing with an overpayment notice. It got me through to an agent in less than 20 minutes when I'd been trying for days on my own. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me a huge headache and the agent was able to explain exactly how the earnings test would affect my benefits.

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Back to your original question - there is NO specific hours limit for any type of employment when collecting retirement benefits. The only thing that matters is the earnings limit before FRA. After FRA, you have no restrictions whatsoever - you can work 100 hours a week and earn millions if you want, with no impact on your Social Security retirement benefits. For those 3 months (Jan-Mar 2025), just keep your earnings under $1,850/month and you'll be fine. Or consider changing your filing date to April as someone suggested.

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Paolo Conti

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Thank you everyone for all this helpful information! I'm going to call SSA tomorrow to see if I can change my starting date to April instead of dealing with the earnings limit for those 3 months. If I have trouble getting through, I might try that Claimyr service someone mentioned. This forum has been incredibly helpful!

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