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Elijah Knight

What's the earning limit after reaching FRA with Social Security benefits in 2025?

I've been trying to plan my retirement and I'm confused about the rules on working while collecting Social Security. I turn 67 (my full retirement age) next March and plan to file for benefits then, but I want to keep working at my current job. I've heard different things about how much I can earn without penalties once I hit FRA. Some coworkers say there's no limit after FRA, but my brother-in-law insists there's still some kind of reduction if I make too much. Can someone clarify this for me? Do I need to stay under a certain income threshold even after reaching my full retirement age? My company might offer me a promotion around the same time and I don't want to mess up my SS benefits.

Once you reach your full retirement age (FRA), there is NO earnings limit. You can earn as much as you want without any reduction to your Social Security retirement benefits. The earnings test only applies before you reach your FRA. If you're still working in the months before reaching your FRA in 2025, there is an earnings limit that applies - but it's fairly generous. For 2024 it's $59,520/year in the months before reaching FRA (and will likely be higher for 2025), and they only deduct $1 in benefits for every $3 you earn above that limit. But again, once you hit your FRA of 67, you're completely free to earn any amount without penalties. Take that promotion without worrying about your SS benefits!

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Thank you! That's such a relief to hear. So to be absolutely clear - the month I turn 67, all restrictions are completely gone and I can earn any amount? My benefits won't be reduced at all regardless of my salary?

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yep what happyguidance said is right. i was worried bout the same thing last yr but theres NO limit after FRA. before that its complicated but after ur golden. i make like 70k now on top of my SS and they dont touch my benefits at all.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! It helps to hear from someone actually doing this. Did you have any issues with the SSA when you first started working after claiming? Did they need any special notification?

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My sister said there's still a limit even after FRA. She had her benefits cut when she made too much last year. Are you sure the rules haven't changed recently??

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Your sister is confusing the rules. There has NEVER been an earnings limit after reaching Full Retirement Age - this has been the rule for decades. She either 1) hadn't actually reached her FRA yet when working, 2) experienced a reduction for something completely different (like Medicare IRMAA surcharges, which aren't benefit cuts but higher premiums), or 3) misunderstood what happened. I'd suggest she contact SSA directly to clarify what actually occurred with her benefits, because it definitely wasn't an earnings limit if she was past her FRA.

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Let me give you the official info straight from SSA (I'm a retired benefits counselor): 1. BEFORE Full Retirement Age: There are strict earnings limits that will reduce your benefits if exceeded. 2. The year you REACH FRA: There's a much higher limit that only applies in the months before your birthday month. 3. AFTER reaching FRA: There is absolutely NO earnings limit. You can earn millions and it won't affect your Social Security benefit amount at all. The only thing that might be confusing your brother-in-law is that working after FRA might increase your future benefits slightly (if your recent earnings are higher than what was used in your original calculation), and higher income can make more of your Social Security taxable on your income tax return. But these aren't penalties - higher taxes just mean you're making good money!

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This is extremely helpful, thank you! I didn't realize working could actually INCREASE my benefits. That plus the promotion sounds like a win-win. One last question - do I need to notify the SSA when I start making more money after FRA, or do they automatically adjust everything?

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WHY does NOBODY mention that Social Security BENEFITS ARE STILL TAXED?!?!? Yeah, no "earnings limit" after FRA but the IRS will still take up to 85% of your benefits in taxes if you make too much! The govt gives with one hand and TAKES with the other! This happened to me - made $80K after FRA and BOOM - most of my SS benefits got eaten by taxes. Just warning you!!

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You're talking about something different. Yes, up to 85% of Social Security benefits can be *subject to income tax* if your combined income is high enough, but that's a tax issue unrelated to the earnings test the OP was asking about. And to clarify, it's not that 85% is taken in taxes - it means up to 85% of your benefit amount becomes part of your taxable income, then taxed at your regular tax rate. For many people, the effective tax impact is much lower.

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Been trying to reach SSA for WEEKS about this exact question and can't get through. Their phone system is a joke - wait for hours then get disconnected! Tried making an appointment at my local office and they're booked 4 months out. How is anyone supposed to get answers to plan their retirement??

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I totally understand your frustration with the phone system - it's definitely overwhelmed. If you need to speak with someone at SSA directly to discuss your specific situation, I'd recommend trying Claimyr (claimyr.com). They have a service that helps you skip the SSA phone wait. I've had multiple clients use it successfully to get through quickly instead of waiting for hours. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Otherwise, for general questions like the earnings limit after FRA, the MySocialSecurity online account is actually pretty good now for managing benefits without needing to call.

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My friend waited until 70 to claim and said that was better than taking it at FRA even if you're still working. Is that true? I'm confused about all the different ages now.

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The question about claiming at 70 vs. FRA is separate from the earnings limit question. Delaying from FRA (67) to 70 increases your benefit amount by 8% per year - so you'd get 24% more monthly if you wait until 70. Whether that's "better" depends on your personal situation, health, and financial needs. But regarding earnings: there's no limit after FRA regardless of whether you claim at 67 or 70. You can work and earn any amount without SS reductions once you reach FRA, no matter when you actually start your benefits.

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I want to thank everyone for all this helpful information! I was really confused and worried about this, but now I understand that: 1. After reaching my FRA at 67, there is NO earnings limit whatsoever 2. I can take that promotion without any reduction to my SS benefits 3. The only consideration is that more income might mean more of my SS is taxable 4. I might even see my benefits increase slightly if my new earnings are higher This is a huge relief and helps me plan better. I think I'll go ahead with claiming at FRA and taking the promotion if offered!

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Sounds like a great plan! And yes, you've summed it up perfectly. The earnings test disappears completely once you reach FRA. Best of luck with the promotion!

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Great to see all this helpful discussion! Just wanted to add one small clarification for anyone else reading this thread - while there's definitely no earnings limit after FRA, it's worth noting that if you're still working and earning high wages, you might want to consider adjusting your tax withholdings or making quarterly estimated payments. The combination of salary + Social Security benefits can sometimes push people into a higher tax bracket than they expected, especially if they're not used to having Social Security income be partially taxable. It's not a penalty or reduction in benefits - just good tax planning to avoid surprises at filing time. Congratulations on your upcoming FRA and potential promotion! It's a great position to be in.

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That's such a good point about tax planning! I hadn't even thought about the withholding adjustments. Since I'll be going from just my salary to salary + SS benefits, I should probably talk to a tax professional about this before everything kicks in. Thank you for thinking of that detail - it's exactly the kind of thing that could catch someone off guard come tax time if they're not prepared for it.

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This is such a helpful thread! As someone who's approaching FRA myself, I really appreciate how everyone has broken down the earnings rules so clearly. One thing I'd add for anyone in a similar situation - if you're planning to work past FRA and claim benefits at the same time, you might want to check if your employer offers any flexibility around when you receive bonuses or other large lump sum payments. While there's no earnings limit after FRA, spreading out large income spikes across tax years can sometimes help with the tax implications that others have mentioned. Also, @Elijah Knight - since you mentioned your company might offer a promotion around the same time you reach FRA, you might want to time things so you officially reach FRA before accepting any significant salary increase. Not because of Social Security rules (since there's no limit after FRA), but just to keep your first year of benefits as simple as possible from a tax perspective while you're adjusting to the new income situation. Best of luck with your retirement planning!

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That's really smart advice about timing the promotion! I hadn't considered the potential benefits of keeping things simple during that transition period. Since my birthday is in March and the promotion discussion is happening around the same time, I could potentially ask to have any salary changes take effect after I've officially reached FRA and gotten my first SS payment or two. That way I can see exactly how everything works together before adding the complexity of a higher income. Thanks for that strategic thinking - it's the kind of detail that could make the whole transition much smoother!

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Just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact transition last year! I reached my FRA in April 2024 and was also worried about the earnings rules. Can confirm everything everyone has said - there is absolutely NO earnings limit once you hit FRA. I actually got a nice surprise too - because I kept working after claiming benefits, SSA automatically recalculated my benefit amount this past January and I got a small increase! They sent me a letter explaining that my 2024 earnings were higher than one of the years they originally used in my benefit calculation, so they substituted it in. It was only about $15 more per month, but hey, every bit helps! One practical tip: I set up direct deposit for my SS benefits to go into a separate savings account from my paycheck. It makes it much easier to track everything for tax purposes and helps me see exactly how much I'm getting from each source. Makes the year-end tax prep much simpler when you can clearly separate your work income from your SS income. Take that promotion with confidence - you've earned it!

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That's so encouraging to hear from someone who just went through this! The automatic recalculation and small increase is a nice bonus I hadn't even considered. And your tip about the separate account for SS benefits is brilliant - I can see how that would make tax time much less stressful when you can easily separate the two income streams. I'm definitely feeling more confident about moving forward with both claiming at FRA and taking the promotion. It sounds like the system actually works pretty smoothly once you're past that FRA threshold. Thank you for sharing your real-world experience!

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This thread has been incredibly informative! As someone who works in HR and helps employees navigate retirement transitions, I see this confusion about earnings limits all the time. One additional resource that might be helpful - the SSA website has a really clear earnings test calculator and FAQ section that walks through all the different scenarios. It's at ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/whileworking.html. They also have examples showing exactly how the earnings test works in the months before you reach FRA vs. after. I always tell people to bookmark that page because it gets updated annually with the new earnings limits for the pre-FRA period. But as everyone has correctly stated here, once you hit your FRA, those limits become irrelevant! @Elijah Knight - sounds like you have a great plan forming. The combination of Social Security income plus continued earnings from a promotion puts you in a really strong financial position for this phase of life. Congratulations on reaching this milestone!

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Thank you for sharing that SSA resource link! As someone new to all of this Social Security planning, having official sources to reference is really valuable. I'll definitely bookmark that page you mentioned. It's reassuring to see so many people with experience confirming the same information - that there truly is no earnings limit after FRA. This whole thread has been like a masterclass in retirement planning! I feel much more confident now about making decisions around work and Social Security timing.

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As someone who just started receiving Social Security at my FRA last month, I can add another perspective to this great discussion. The transition was much smoother than I expected! One thing that really helped me was calling SSA about 3 months before my birthday to start the application process. Even though everyone here is right that there's no earnings limit after FRA, I wanted to make sure I understood exactly when my benefits would start and how the timing worked with my work schedule. The SSA representative confirmed everything that's been said here - once you reach FRA, you can earn unlimited amounts without any reduction to your Social Security benefits. She also mentioned that if I continue working, they'll automatically review my earnings each year to see if my benefits should be increased based on higher recent earnings. For anyone else planning this transition, I'd recommend applying online through your MySocialSecurity account if possible. It was much easier than trying to get through on the phone, and I could do it at my own pace with all my documents handy. Great question, @Elijah Knight - you're definitely on the right track with your planning!

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again. very misleading."At FRA" and "After FRA" what is the difference? how long from at FRA to After FRA?

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Great question! Let me clarify this important distinction: "At FRA" refers to the specific month you reach your Full Retirement Age. So if your FRA is 67 and you turn 67 in March, then "at FRA" is March 2025. "After FRA" means starting from that same month - there's no waiting period! The earnings limit disappears the moment you reach your FRA birthday month. So to be completely clear: if you turn 67 in March 2025, then starting in March 2025 (the month you reach FRA), there is no earnings limit whatsoever. You don't have to wait until April or any period after that - the restriction ends immediately upon reaching your FRA month. The confusion often comes from the fact that in the year you reach FRA, there are different rules for the months before your birthday vs. the month of your birthday and after. But once you hit that FRA month, you're completely free to earn any amount without Social Security benefit reductions. Hope that clears up the timing!

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This has been such a comprehensive and helpful discussion! I'm also approaching my FRA next year and had similar concerns about the earnings rules. What really stands out to me is how consistent everyone's responses have been - there truly is NO earnings limit once you reach your Full Retirement Age. It's reassuring to see people who have actually gone through this process confirming what the official SSA guidance says. I particularly appreciated the practical tips about separate bank accounts for tax tracking, the reminder about potential benefit recalculations from continued work, and the heads up about timing any salary increases strategically. These are the kind of real-world details you don't always think about when you're just focused on the basic rules. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise. This thread should be bookmarked as a reference for anyone navigating the FRA transition while still working!

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I'm so glad I found this thread! As someone just starting to research Social Security and retirement planning, this discussion has been incredibly educational. The clarity everyone has provided about there being absolutely no earnings limit after FRA is exactly what I needed to hear. What's been most valuable is seeing the real experiences from people who have actually made this transition successfully. The practical advice about tax planning, separate accounts, and timing considerations gives me a much better roadmap for my own planning. It's also reassuring to know that the system works as advertised - once you hit FRA, you really can work and earn without worrying about benefit reductions. That removes a huge source of anxiety about retirement timing decisions! Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge and experience. This thread is definitely going in my retirement planning bookmarks!

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I've been following this discussion as someone who will reach FRA in about 18 months, and I wanted to thank everyone for such clear and consistent information. The unanimous consensus that there's NO earnings limit after FRA has really helped put my mind at ease about my own retirement planning. One thing I'm curious about - for those who have made this transition, did you notice any difference in how your employer handled things like 401k contributions or other benefits once you started collecting Social Security? I'm wondering if there are any workplace considerations I should be thinking about beyond just the Social Security earnings rules. Also, has anyone dealt with the situation where you're collecting SS but your spouse isn't yet eligible? I'm trying to figure out the best strategy when we'll have a few years where I'm getting benefits but my wife won't be (she's 3 years younger than me). This thread has been incredibly valuable - thanks to everyone for sharing their real-world experiences!

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Great questions! Regarding workplace benefits while collecting SS - in my experience, nothing changed with 401k contributions or other employer benefits. You can still contribute to your 401k (and should if you're still working and can afford it), and all your health insurance, vacation, etc. stays the same. Your employer treats you just like any other employee - Social Security is separate from your work benefits. As for the spousal timing situation, that's actually pretty common! My wife and I had a 4-year gap between when I started SS and when she became eligible. A few things to consider: 1) She might be eligible for spousal benefits once you start collecting (up to 50% of your benefit if she's at her FRA), even if she's not old enough for her own retirement benefits yet. 2) The timing strategy gets more complex - you might want to consult with a financial planner about whether delaying your benefits to age 70 makes sense given the age gap. 3) Healthcare is often the bigger issue - make sure you understand how Medicare timing works for both of you. This thread really has been incredibly helpful for retirement planning!

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This entire discussion has been fantastic and really reinforces what I see regularly in my work as a retirement planning advisor. The key point everyone has correctly emphasized is that there is absolutely NO earnings limit once you reach your Full Retirement Age - this is one of the most misunderstood aspects of Social Security. @Elijah Knight - you're in a great position! Since you'll reach FRA at 67 next March, from that month forward you can earn any amount without any reduction to your Social Security benefits. Take that promotion with confidence. I'd also echo what others have said about the potential for benefit increases if your new higher earnings exceed what was used in your original calculation. SSA automatically reviews earnings each year, so continued work can actually boost your monthly benefit amount. One additional tip: consider setting up your MySocialSecurity account online now if you haven't already. It makes tracking your benefits much easier and you can see your earnings record, estimated benefits, and get official documents without having to navigate the phone system that others have mentioned struggling with. The combination of Social Security plus promotion income puts you in an excellent financial position for this phase of life. Congratulations on reaching this milestone!

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Thank you for this professional perspective! As someone just learning about all these Social Security rules, it's really reassuring to hear from a retirement planning advisor that confirms what everyone else has been saying. I'm curious - in your experience working with clients, what's the most common mistake people make when planning around the FRA earnings rules? It seems like there's so much confusion out there (like what the original poster experienced with conflicting advice from coworkers and family), so I'm wondering what trips people up most often. Also, the tip about setting up the MySocialSecurity account is great - I should probably do that now even though I'm still a few years away from eligibility, just to start tracking everything and get familiar with the system. This whole thread has been like getting a masterclass in Social Security planning for free!

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The most common mistake I see clients make is confusing the earnings test with taxation of Social Security benefits - they're completely different things! Many people think that because their SS benefits might become taxable at higher income levels, that means there's still an "earnings limit" after FRA. But as everyone here has correctly stated, the earnings test disappears entirely at FRA. Another frequent confusion is around the timing in the year you reach FRA. People often think they need to wait until the year AFTER they turn 67, when actually the earnings limit ends the month they reach FRA. And yes, definitely set up your MySocialSecurity account now! It's incredibly helpful for tracking your earnings record and catching any errors early. Plus you'll be familiar with the system when you're ready to apply for benefits. The fact that this thread has generated such consistent and accurate information really shows how important it is to get multiple perspectives when planning something as crucial as retirement timing!

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This distinction between the earnings test and taxation is so important - thank you for clarifying that! I can see how those two completely different concepts could easily get mixed up and cause confusion. It makes perfect sense that people would hear "your Social Security gets reduced when you earn too much" and think that applies across the board, when really it's two separate issues: 1) the earnings test that only applies before FRA, and 2) the tax implications that are just normal income tax rules. I'm definitely going to set up my MySocialSecurity account this week. Even though I'm still a few years out from eligibility, it sounds like getting familiar with the system early and making sure my earnings record is accurate will save me headaches later. This whole discussion has been incredibly educational - I feel like I understand the Social Security earnings rules so much better now than when I started reading. Thanks to everyone who contributed their knowledge and experience!

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