Social Security earnings cap removed at FRA? Confused about retirement earnings limits
I'm getting ready to claim SS retirement benefits next year but still want to work part-time. I've been told conflicting things about earnings limits. My neighbor says there's always a cap on how much I can earn while collecting benefits, but my brother-in-law insists that once you reach Full Retirement Age (FRA), you can earn unlimited income without any reduction in benefits. I'm turning 67 in July 2025 (which I think is my FRA?), and planning to claim then, but want to keep my job where I make about $32,000 a year. Will SS reduce my benefits because of my earnings? I've tried reading the SSA website but got confused by all the different rules. Can someone clarify this once and for all?
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Yara Khoury
Your brother-in-law is right. Once you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA), there is NO limit on how much you can earn while receiving your full Social Security retirement benefits. I went through this exact situation last year. Before FRA, yes, there are earnings limits ($21,240 in 2025 for those under FRA the entire year, with $1 reduction for every $2 over), but the month you hit FRA, those limits disappear completely. At 67, you'll be at your FRA, so work as much as you want - earn $32,000 or $320,000, Social Security doesn't care and won't reduce your benefits at all. Just be aware of possible tax implications if your combined income gets too high.
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Connor O'Reilly
•Thank you so much! That's a huge relief. Do you know if I need to notify Social Security about my earnings anyway, even though they won't affect my benefits? Or do they just get that information automatically from tax returns?
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Keisha Taylor
my sister thought the same thing and she lost like $400 a month because she didnt understand the rules!! if ur under fra theres a limit but at fra no more limit. thats why a lot of people wait till fra to start ss if there still working
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Connor O'Reilly
•Your poor sister! That must have been a nasty surprise. I'm glad I asked before filing. Did she ever get that money back once she reached FRA?
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Keisha Taylor
•nope, once its reduced its gone for that year. they recalculate at the end of each year but they dont give you back what they already took
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StardustSeeker
There's a lot of confusion around this topic! Here's the exact rule: Before Full Retirement Age, in 2025 you can earn up to $21,240 without penalty. Earn more, and SSA deducts $1 for every $2 over the limit. In the year you reach FRA, the limit jumps to $56,520 for the months BEFORE your FRA month, with $1 deducted for every $3 over. From the month you reach FRA onward = NO EARNINGS LIMIT WHATSOEVER. Since you're turning 67 (your FRA) in July 2025 and claiming then, you'll never be subject to the earnings limit if you start benefits in your FRA month or later. Your $32,000 income won't affect your SS benefits at all. However, depending on your total income, up to 85% of your benefits might be taxable - that's a separate issue from the earnings limit.
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Paolo Marino
•OK wait I'm confused. I thought the earnings limit was $19,560? Or did they increase it for 2025? Where are you getting these numbers from???
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StardustSeeker
•Yes, the limits increase every year. For 2023 it was $19,560, for 2024 it's $21,240, and I'm projecting a similar increase for 2025 (they typically announce the exact figure in October of the previous year). But regardless, since the original poster is claiming AT their FRA, none of these limits will apply to them.
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Amina Bah
I WASTED THREE MONTHS trying to get SSA to explain this to me last year!!! Called dozens of times and couldn't get through. The online info is so confusing and contradictory. They make these rules DELIBERATELY COMPLICATED so people mess up their applications. Then when I finally reached someone, they gave me wrong information and I ended up having $3800 deducted from my benefits because I didn't know about the earnings limit before FRA!!!!
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Oliver Becker
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Amina Bah
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Natasha Petrova
My husband and I just went through this whole process. Yes, once you reach your full retirement age (FRA), which is 67 for anyone born in 1958 or later, there is NO earnings cap. Zero. Nada. You can make millions and still get your full SS benefit. But remember, if you claim BEFORE reaching FRA, those earnings limits are serious business. My husband claimed at 65 and had $5,400 withheld last year because he went over the limit. I waited until 67 and have no restrictions. Also, don't forget about taxes - higher combined income means more of your SS benefits become taxable.
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Connor O'Reilly
•Thanks for sharing your experience! I was born in 1958, so 67 is indeed my FRA. I'm planning to wait until then exactly because I want to keep working. From what everyone's saying, looks like that was the right choice.
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Paolo Marino
my mom is on SSDI not retirement and they told her theres always an earnings limit even after retirement age is this different for disability?? now im worried shes getting wrong info
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Yara Khoury
•Yes, that's correct - SSDI is completely different from retirement benefits! For SSDI, there's always a limit on how much you can earn before they consider you not disabled anymore. It's called Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA) - in 2024 it's $1,550/month for non-blind individuals. So your mom is getting the right information. The removal of earnings limits at FRA only applies to retirement benefits, not disability benefits.
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Paolo Marino
•oh thank you! she was getting so confused by reading about the FRA limits going away
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Connor O'Reilly
Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I feel much better about my decision to wait until my FRA next July before claiming. To summarize what I've learned: 1. At FRA, there is NO earnings limit whatsoever 2. Since I'll be claiming at 67 (my FRA), I can keep working and earning $32,000 with no reduction in SS benefits 3. I should still be aware of possible tax implications Really appreciate all the explanations - this community is incredibly helpful!
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Keisha Taylor
•glad we could help! the whole system is so confusing sometimes
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