Social Security earnings limit only applies until FRA? Confused about retirement income rules
I'm planning to take my SS benefits at 63 next year (2025), but I still want to work part-time. I understand there's an earnings limit of $23,520 if you claim before your Full Retirement Age, but I'm confused about how long this limit applies. Does this earnings cap only affect me until I reach my FRA (which is 67 for me), or does it continue forever because I claimed early? Also, what happens if I do go over the limit? My financial advisor mentioned something about benefits being "withheld" but wasn't clear on the details. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Eli Wang
The earnings limit ONLY applies until you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA). After that, you can earn as much as you want with no penalty or reduction to your benefits, even if you initially filed early. If you go over the limit before reaching FRA, Social Security will withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above the annual limit. In the calendar year you reach FRA, the rules are more lenient - they only withhold $1 for every $3 you earn above a higher limit ($62,760 in 2025), and they only count earnings in the months before your FRA month. The good news is that any benefits withheld aren't lost forever. Once you reach FRA, Social Security will recalculate your benefit amount to credit you for the months when benefits were withheld.
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Nora Brooks
•Thank you! That's much clearer than what my advisor told me. So if I understand correctly, between age 63-67, I'll need to stay under the earnings limit or face reductions. But once I hit 67, I can earn unlimited income without any impact on my Social Security. And even if I do have benefits withheld, I'll eventually get credit for them after 67?
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Cassandra Moon
my sister had this same problem last yr, she was 64 and working and they took back a bunch of her ss money when she filed taxes! she had no idea about the limit and was really counting on that money. i think its really unfair that ssa doesnt explain this better to people!!
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Nora Brooks
•That's exactly what I'm worried about! Did your sister have to pay back money she'd already received, or did they just reduce her future payments?
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Cassandra Moon
•they reduced her payments for a few months, it was a real shock when her checks suddenly got way smaller. she called SSA like 8 times before she even got someone to explain why
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Zane Hernandez
Just wanted to add some clarity on how the withholding actually works in practice, since this confuses many people: When you exceed the earnings limit, SSA doesn't request money back - instead, they stop your monthly payments until they've withheld the required amount. For example, if you earn $5,000 over the limit, they need to withhold $2,500 (half the excess). If your monthly benefit is $1,500, you'd miss about 2 months of payments. SSA typically makes these adjustments after you file your tax return showing your actual earnings. That's why some people get surprised when their benefits suddenly stop for a period. It's important to report expected earnings in advance so they can spread out any withholding throughout the year rather than all at once.
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Genevieve Cavalier
•And don't forget that after FRA, they recalculate your benefit and gradually pay back the withheld amounts by increasing your monthly benefit slightly. So it's not money lost forever, just delayed. If you're struggling to reach SSA to discuss your specific situation, I recommend using Claimyr (claimyr.com). It helped me get through quickly when I needed to report my income changes - saved me hours of waiting on hold. They have a helpful video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU
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Ethan Scott
•HOLD ON - are you saying they increase your benefit AMOUNT after FRA to make up for what they took?? I've been collecting SS for 2 years (filed at 63) and turning 66 in August which is my FRA. I had benefits withheld in 2023 & 2024 because of work but NOBODY at Social Security ever mentioned they'd increase my payment when I hit FRA!! Is this automatic or do I need to request it???
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Eli Wang
Yes, the recalculation at FRA is automatic. What happens is they effectively credit you for the months you didn't receive benefits due to withholding. It's similar to having delayed filing for those months. For example, if you claimed at 63 but had 8 months worth of benefits withheld due to excess earnings before reaching FRA, when you reach FRA, they'll recalculate your benefit as if you had claimed 8 months later than you actually did. This results in a higher monthly payment going forward. You don't need to request this adjustment - SSA should make it automatically in the month you reach your FRA. However, it's always good to check your benefit amount after your FRA month to make sure the adjustment was properly applied.
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Ethan Scott
•Thank you!!! I had no idea! So I should see an increase starting September? I wish the SSA would explain this stuff better!!
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Zane Hernandez
•The adjustment should appear in your benefit amount the month you reach FRA or shortly thereafter. In some cases, it might take a month or two for SSA to process the adjustment, but it will be retroactive to your FRA month. If you don't see an increase by October, I'd recommend contacting SSA to inquire about it.
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Lola Perez
Im confused about something - do they count ALL income for the earnings limit or just wages? I have rental property income plus a part time job, but my cousin said only the job counts toward the limit?
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Eli Wang
•Your cousin is correct! The earnings test only counts wages from employment or net earnings from self-employment. Passive income like rental income, investment returns, pension payments, annuities, or other government benefits don't count toward the earnings limit. So if you're receiving Social Security early and have rental properties, that rental income won't affect your benefits at all. Only the income from your part-time job would count toward the earnings limit.
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Nathaniel Stewart
I just went through this last year and learned the hard way. I filed at 62 and was still working part-time at Walmart. Ended up making about $4,000 over the limit and they stopped my payments for almost 3 months! The worst part was they didn't tell me this would happen, just suddenly no deposit one month. Took me DAYS to reach someone at SSA to figure out what happened. My advice - track your earnings carefully and report them to SSA in advance!
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Nora Brooks
•That sounds awful! Did they at least give you some warning before they stopped the payments?
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Nathaniel Stewart
•Nope, no warning at all. Just no deposit that month. When I finally got someone on the phone, they said they'd sent a letter but I never received it. Make sure your address is up to date with them!
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Zane Hernandez
Since we're discussing the earnings limit, I'd like to clarify one more important point: the limit is significantly higher in the calendar year you reach FRA, and only applies to months before your birthday. For example, in 2025: - Regular early retirement earnings limit: $23,520/year - Limit in year you reach FRA: $62,760 (and only counting earnings before your FRA month) Also, be aware that the earnings limit typically increases each year with inflation. So if you're planning several years in advance, expect these numbers to rise somewhat.
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Cassandra Moon
•wait im confused about that second part. so if ur FRA is in july, they only count income from jan-june against that higher limit?
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Nora Brooks
Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I think I understand how it works now: 1. The earnings limit applies from when I claim at 63 until I reach my FRA at 67 2. Only wages count, not other income like investments or rentals 3. If I go over the limit, they'll withhold some benefits 4. When I reach FRA, I'll get credit for those withheld benefits 5. After FRA, I can earn unlimited income with no penalty I'm going to carefully plan my work hours to stay under the limit for those 4 years. Really appreciate all the advice!
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Eli Wang
•You've got it exactly right! Just one additional tip - if your earnings might be close to the limit, consider front-loading your work hours earlier in the year so you can monitor how close you are to the threshold and adjust if needed. Good luck with your retirement planning!
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