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To summarize for anyone else with similar questions: 1. For DIVORCED spouses: 10+ years of marriage is required to claim on ex's record 2. For CURRENT spouses: No minimum marriage length to claim spousal benefits 3. For SURVIVING spouses (if ex passed away): Only 9 months of marriage generally required The 7-year marriage in this case doesn't meet the requirement for divorced spouse benefits. Your ex-wife will need to qualify for Social Security based on her own work record or through another marriage.

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Great summary. Also worth noting that if the original poster's ex-wife doesn't have enough work credits on her own record, she might qualify for SSI (Supplemental Security Income) at age 65+, which is needs-based rather than work-based. But that's entirely separate from claiming benefits on an ex-spouse's record.

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As someone who went through a similar situation, I can confirm what others have said - the 10-year rule is absolutely firm for divorced spouse benefits. I was married 8.5 years and my ex cannot claim anything on my record. However, I'd suggest your ex-wife check her own work history with SSA to see what she might be eligible for on her own. Even if she didn't work much during your marriage, she may have earned enough credits before or after to qualify for her own benefits. She can create a my Social Security account online to check her earnings record and get benefit estimates. It's worth doing since that's likely her only path to Social Security retirement benefits.

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That's really helpful advice about checking her own work record! I hadn't thought about her possibly having credits from before our marriage or after. Do you know if there's a minimum number of work credits needed to qualify for your own Social Security benefits? I'm curious since you mentioned she might still have options even if she didn't work much during our marriage.

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I went through this exact same process just two months ago after my November wedding! Your certified copy with the county seal is perfect - that's exactly what SSA accepts and considers equivalent to an original. I was also confused by the online process because it's genuinely misleading - you can start it online but can't actually complete the name change that way. I highly recommend the in-person route over mailing. I went to my local SSA office as a walk-in, arrived about 40 minutes before opening on a Tuesday, and was maybe 8th in line. The actual process was incredibly quick - maybe 15 minutes total. They looked at my certified marriage certificate and driver's license, had me fill out Form SS-5, and immediately returned all my documents to me. No stress about mail getting lost! Got my new Social Security card in 10 business days. One crucial tip I learned: don't change your name anywhere else (employer, bank, etc.) until SSA processes it first, or you'll create system mismatches. If you're nervous about using your only certified copy, consider getting a second one from your county first - most counties let you order them online for around $15-20. The peace of mind is worth it! Bring a backup ID like your passport too. Good luck!

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This is such helpful advice, especially about getting a second certified copy first! I'm definitely going with the in-person route after reading all these success stories. Quick question - when you arrived 40 minutes early on Tuesday, did you find that was enough time to secure a good spot in line, or would you recommend getting there even earlier? I want to make sure I plan enough time but also don't want to arrive unnecessarily early if 40 minutes worked well for you!

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I just completed my name change with SSA about 6 weeks ago and had the exact same concerns! Your certified copy with the county seal is absolutely perfect - that's exactly what they need and it's legally considered equivalent to an original document. I was also confused by the online process because it's really misleading. You can't actually finish the name change online despite what the website suggests, which is why you got stuck at the document upload part. Here's what I did: I got a second certified copy from my county first (ordered online for $18 and took about a week to arrive), then went to my local SSA office as a walk-in. I arrived 50 minutes before they opened on a Monday morning and was 4th in line. The actual process took about 10 minutes once I was seen - they looked at my certified marriage certificate and driver's license, had me complete Form SS-5, and handed all my documents right back to me immediately. My new Social Security card arrived in 8 business days. The key is NOT to change your name anywhere else (employer, bank, etc.) until SSA processes it first - otherwise you'll create mismatches in the system. I know the early morning wait seems inconvenient, but the peace of mind of not mailing your documents and getting them back instantly is so worth it. Just bring a backup ID like your passport - they asked to see mine as secondary verification. Congratulations on your marriage and good luck with the process!

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I'm a few years away from applying for Social Security myself (Navy veteran, served in the early 2000s), and this whole discussion has been incredibly educational. The fact that SSA often already has military service records on file is news to me - I was already dreading having to dig up old paperwork. It's also reassuring to see how helpful this community is. The advice from the former SSA claims specialist was particularly valuable in explaining WHY the military service information matters for benefits calculation. I'm definitely saving this thread for when my time comes to apply. Thanks to everyone who contributed their experiences and expertise!

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This is such a fantastic resource! As someone new to navigating Social Security benefits, I had no idea that military service could impact calculations or that SSA might already have these records. The step-by-step approach that Omar outlined makes so much sense - try the simple solution first, then move to more complex options if needed. It's really encouraging to see how this community comes together to help each other through these bureaucratic challenges. I'll definitely keep this thread in mind when I start thinking about my own application down the road!

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As a newcomer to this community, I just want to say how impressed I am with the quality of advice and support shared here! This thread is exactly what government service communities should be about - real people helping each other navigate complex bureaucratic processes with practical, experience-based solutions. The progression from initial frustration to successful resolution is so encouraging to see. It really demonstrates that while these government systems can seem overwhelming at first, there are usually multiple pathways to get the help you need. The collaborative approach here - with contributions from former SSA staff, fellow veterans, and community members sharing their personal experiences - creates such a valuable knowledge base. I'm not ready for Social Security yet myself, but I'm already learning so much from threads like this. It's clear this community is a great resource for anyone dealing with SSA-related questions. Thanks to everyone who takes the time to share their expertise and experiences!

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you can use the Social Security Administration's online benefit calculators to get personalized estimates. If you create a my Social Security account at ssa.gov, you can see exactly what your estimated monthly benefit would be at different claiming ages (62, FRA, 70) based on your actual earnings record. This takes the guesswork out of the percentages since it shows you real dollar amounts. The calculators also factor in future earnings if you plan to keep working. I found this really helpful when I was making my decision - seeing the actual monthly dollar difference between claiming at 62 vs waiting made the trade-offs much clearer than just thinking about percentages.

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This is excellent advice! I just created my account and wow, seeing the actual dollar amounts really puts it in perspective. The difference between $1,960 at 62 vs $2,800 at 67 is stark when you see it in black and white. The online calculator also showed me how continuing to work for a few more years could increase my benefit amount since it replaces lower earning years in my calculation. Definitely recommend anyone considering early retirement do this first before making the decision.

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Just wanted to add something that helped me make this decision - consider doing a break-even analysis with your specific numbers. I calculated that if I take benefits at 62 ($1,400/month) versus waiting until 67 ($2,000/month), I'd collect about $84,000 by age 67 from early claiming. Then it would take about 14 years (until age 81) for the higher monthly payments to make up that difference. Since women in my family tend to live into their late 80s, waiting made sense for me. But if you have health concerns or immediate financial needs, that calculation might look different. Also factor in what you'd do with that money - if you can invest the early payments and earn a decent return, it changes the math. The key is running the numbers with your actual benefit estimates rather than just thinking about percentages.

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This break-even analysis approach is really smart! I hadn't thought about factoring in potential investment returns on the early payments. That's a good point that if you could invest that $84,000 over 5 years and get decent returns, it might change the calculation significantly. Do you happen to know what kind of return rate would make taking early benefits mathematically better than waiting? I'm trying to run similar numbers for my situation but I'm not sure what's a realistic assumption for investment returns over that timeframe.

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if ur working anyway have u thought bout just waiting til FRA to collect? no earnings limit then and bigger checks.

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I've thought about it, but I only work part-time now and really need the extra income from SS. Just trying to balance everything as best I can until I fully retire in a couple years.

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Just wanted to add another perspective here - I went through something similar last year when I started benefits at 62. The key thing to remember is that SSA uses your GROSS monthly earnings, not net. So if your bonus includes any overtime, commission, or other earnings, make sure you're calculating based on the full amount. Also, if you do decide to ask your employer to delay the bonus to January, get it in writing so there's no confusion about when it was actually earned vs. when it was paid. SSA looks at when compensation is earned, not when you receive it. The monthly test for your first year really is strict - I learned that the hard way when I had an unexpected freelance payment in my second month of benefits.

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Great point about the gross vs net earnings! I hadn't thought about that distinction. My bonus is definitely gross pay so I need to factor that in correctly. And you're absolutely right about getting the delay in writing - I work for a small company and sometimes these verbal agreements get forgotten. Quick question though - when you say SSA looks at when compensation is "earned" vs "paid," does that mean if I earn the bonus in November but they pay it in January, SSA would still count it for November? That would defeat the whole purpose of delaying it.

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Actually, it depends on your employment situation. For W-2 employees, SSA typically counts wages when they're paid, not when they're earned. So if you can get your employer to pay the bonus in January instead of November, it would count toward 2026 earnings when you're under the annual test instead of the monthly test. But for self-employment income, it's counted when earned regardless of when paid. Since you mentioned working part-time for an employer, you're likely a W-2 employee, so timing the payment to January should work in your favor. Just make sure your employer understands you want it paid in January, not just deferred.

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