Social Security spousal benefit confusion - is $200 difference too small for spousal top-up?
So confused about these spousal benefits! My husband is turning 67 next month (his FRA) and I'm 65. We've been trying to figure out the best strategy for claiming. His SS benefit will be around $2,100/month and mine would be about $1,900/month if I claim at my FRA. From what I understand, I'd get a spousal benefit if my benefit is less than 50% of his, but since my own benefit is pretty close to his (only $200 less), I don't think I'd get any spousal top-up, right? The SSA website is so confusing on this point! Does anyone know for sure if I'm understanding this correctly? Would I have to have a benefit that's less than $1,050 (50% of his) to get any spousal addition? I don't want to leave money on the table if I'm missing something!
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CosmicCrusader
You've got it exactly right. The spousal benefit is 50% of your husband's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount) at your FRA. Since your own benefit ($1,900) exceeds half of your husband's benefit ($2,100 ÷ 2 = $1,050), you won't receive any additional amount as a spouse. You'll simply receive your own retirement benefit. The spousal benefit only provides a "top-up" when your own benefit is less than 50% of your spouse's.
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Omar Zaki
•Thank you so much for confirming! It's frustrating that we're so close to the threshold but still don't qualify. I was hoping maybe there was some little-known rule that might still give us something. Guess we'll just have to take our separate benefits and be grateful they're decent amounts.
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Chloe Robinson
i think ur right but u should double check with SSA. my sister thought the same thing but turns out she was eligible for a little bit extra. call em and ask directly
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Diego Flores
•Calling SSA is IMPOSSIBLE these days!!!! I tried for 3 DAYS last month trying to get through about my disability review. Either busy signals or 3+ hour wait times and then they HANG UP on you!!!
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Anastasia Kozlov
Wait I'm confused. Don't you get half your husband's no matter what? That's what my neighbor told me she gets half of her husbands and also her own.
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Sean Flanagan
•No, that's a common misunderstanding about Social Security. You receive either your own benefit OR up to 50% of your spouse's benefit, whichever is higher - not both. In cases where your own benefit is very small or you don't qualify for one based on your work history, the spousal benefit provides that safety net of 50% of your spouse's amount. But you don't get to add them together.
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Zara Mirza
I just went through this exact situation with my wife. Her benefit was about $1700 and mine was $2000, so pretty similar to your numbers. We talked to a SS rep who confirmed she would just get her own benefit since it was more than half of mine. The rep also told us that these calculations use the PIA (your benefit at full retirement age) even if you take benefits early or late. So the 50% comparison is always based on the FRA amount, not the actual amount either of you end up receiving after reductions or credits.
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Omar Zaki
•Thank you, that's really helpful to know about the PIA being the basis for calculation! Did they explain if there's any strategy for maximizing your benefits in a situation like ours? Like should one of us delay claiming to increase our benefit?
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CosmicCrusader
Since your benefits are fairly close in amount, you might want to consider having the higher earner (your husband) delay claiming beyond FRA to age 70 if possible. This would increase his benefit by 8% per year (about 24% total) to around $2,600. While this won't affect spousal benefits during his lifetime, it creates a much higher survivor benefit if he passes away before you. As a widow, you'd be eligible for 100% of his benefit including those delayed retirement credits. This is often the most financially advantageous strategy for married couples with similar earning histories.
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Omar Zaki
•That's brilliant! We hadn't even thought about the survivor benefit angle. He's in good health and can keep working a few more years, so this makes a lot of sense. I'll claim at my FRA and he'll wait until 70. Thank you so much for this advice!
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Chloe Robinson
just fyi my aunt claimed her ss when she turned 62 and she regrets it so much now. she gets like $400 less every month than if she just waited.
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Diego Flores
•This is what the GOVERNMENT wants - for people to wait to claim!!! They're HOPING you'll DIE before claiming so they never have to pay you A DIME of what you put in all those years!!! I took mine at 62 and I'm glad I did because I've already collected for 8 years and who knows if I'll even make it to 78 for the so-called 'break even' point!!!
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Anastasia Kozlov
I think you can still apply for spousal and see what happens? Maybe they'll give you something. Doesn't hurt to try right?
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Sean Flanagan
•There's actually no separate application for spousal benefits anymore since the 2015 rule changes. When you apply for retirement benefits, SSA automatically checks if you're eligible for higher benefits as a spouse. If you're eligible for both, they give you whichever amount is higher - they call this being "deemed" to have filed for all benefits you're eligible for. So there's no way to apply for just one or the other if you're reaching retirement age now.
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Zara Mirza
One more thing to consider: if either of you worked in jobs not covered by Social Security (like some government positions), the WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) or GPO (Government Pension Offset) might affect your benefits. These provisions can reduce benefits for people who receive pensions from non-SS-covered employment. Just mentioning it in case that applies to your situation.
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Omar Zaki
•Thankfully neither of us fall under WEP or GPO! All our work has been in SS-covered employment. I've heard those provisions can really complicate things, so I'm grateful we don't have to worry about that aspect.
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