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Will my Social Security spousal benefit be reduced if my wife files early? (Confused about spousal top-off calculation)

I'm completely stuck trying to understand how Social Security calculates spousal benefits in our situation. My husband started collecting his retirement benefits at age 70 about 4 years ago. His monthly benefit is around $2,100. I'm turning 66 in about 11 months (my FRA is 67) but considering filing early for my own benefits. My PIA at FRA would be approximately $4,800, so more than double my husband's benefit. Once I start collecting my benefits, my husband plans to apply for the spousal top-off benefit since he qualifies for it. Here's what I don't understand: If I file early at 66 (about a year before my FRA), will my husband's spousal benefit be calculated based on my REDUCED benefit amount or based on what my benefit WOULD HAVE BEEN at my FRA? I know that I'll face a reduction for claiming early, but does that reduction also affect what my husband can receive as a spouse? We need to make a decision soon and I'm so confused about this particular detail.

Julian Paolo

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The good news is that your early filing won't reduce your husband's spousal benefit. When calculating spousal benefits, SSA always uses your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) - which is your benefit amount at your Full Retirement Age - regardless of when you actually file. So even if you take your benefits early at 66, your husband's spousal top-off will be based on your full PIA amount, not your reduced benefit. This is one of the few situations where one spouse's decision doesn't penalize the other. Your early filing will permanently reduce YOUR monthly benefit by about 6.7% (for filing 12 months early), but it won't impact the calculation used for your husband's spousal benefit.

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Madison King

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That's a huge relief! I was worried we'd be losing money on both ends if I filed early. So just to double check my understanding: I'll take a permanent reduction on my benefit for filing early, but my husband will still get the maximum possible spousal benefit based on my full PIA as if I had waited until 67? That seems almost too good to be true!

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Ella Knight

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my sister did this exact thing last year and her husband got the full spousal amount based on what her pia would have been not what she actually got. ss rules are weird but this one actually works in ur favor

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William Schwarz

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This isn't always true! My neighbor got less because his wife filed early! It depends on birth year and if you've worked government jobs and other things. Every case is different.

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Julian Paolo

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To clarify for everyone, here's how the spousal benefit calculation works in this specific situation: 1. When the higher-earning spouse (in this case, the wife) files for benefits, the lower-earning spouse (the husband) becomes eligible for a spousal benefit. 2. The maximum spousal benefit is 50% of the higher earner's PIA (Primary Insurance Amount). 3. Since the husband already has his own retirement benefit, he'll receive a "top-off" - the difference between his own benefit and the spousal benefit (if the spousal benefit is higher). 4. The key point: The PIA used in this calculation is based on the higher earner's FRA benefit amount, NOT their actually received amount. 5. So even if the wife takes reduced benefits by filing early, the husband's spousal benefit calculation still uses her full FRA benefit amount. This is different from some other Social Security rules where early filing can affect multiple benefits.

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Ella Knight

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thats exactly what happened with my sister! her husband gets like $300 extra a month now as the spousal topup thing based on her full amount even tho shes getting less for filing early

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Lauren Johnson

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Madison King

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Thank you! I've been trying to get through to them for days too. I'll check out that service. I'd really like to confirm this directly with SSA before we make our final decision.

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Jade Santiago

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NOBODY here has mentioned the IMPORTANT DETAIL about deemed filing!!!! If your FRA is 67 and you file at 66, you're subject to deemed filing rules which means you're AUTOMATICALLY applying for ALL benefits you're eligible for. You can't pick and choose anymore like people could before 2016. So if your husband wants a spousal benefit there's other considerations. Also maximum family benefits could come into play here depending on your exact situation. SSA is NOT always straightforward about this stuff!!!!!

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Julian Paolo

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You're raising an important point about deemed filing, but I don't think it applies in this specific situation. The poster is asking about her husband applying for spousal benefits based on her record, not vice versa. Since her husband is already collecting his own retirement benefits (has been for 4 years), deemed filing doesn't impact their situation in the way you're describing. He'll simply be eligible for the spousal top-up once she files for her own benefits. And regarding family maximum benefits - that typically applies when there are multiple dependents on one earner's record, like children or multiple spouses from previous marriages receiving benefits. It doesn't usually impact a situation with just one spouse receiving a spousal benefit.

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Madison King

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I just wanted to update everyone - I finally got through to SSA this morning after using that Claimyr service mentioned above (it really did work!). The agent confirmed what most of you have said: my husband's spousal top-off will be based on my full PIA amount regardless of when I file. So I will take the reduction for filing early, but his spousal benefit calculation won't be affected by my early filing. Since we need the additional income now for some medical expenses, I think I'll go ahead with filing at 66. Thanks to everyone who helped clarify this confusing aspect of Social Security rules!

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Caleb Stone

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Good decision based on your needs. One final tip - make sure when your husband applies for the spousal top-up that he specifically mentions he's applying for the spousal benefit based on your record. Sometimes the SSA representatives don't automatically check for this eligibility, and it's not always applied retroactively if missed.

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Daniel Price

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I'm still not 100% clear... so does this mean that if I'm the higher earner and my husband is getting benefits on my record, I should ALWAYS file early??? Seems like there's no disadvantage since my early filing only affects me, not him? Am I understanding this correctly?

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Julian Paolo

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Not necessarily. While it's true that your early filing won't reduce your spouse's spousal benefit calculation, filing early permanently reduces YOUR benefit by 5/9 of 1% for each month before FRA (up to 36 months) and 5/12 of 1% for each additional month. This reduction lasts for your lifetime. The decision to file early should consider: 1. Your health and life expectancy 2. Your current income needs 3. Survivor benefit implications (when you pass away, your spouse may receive your benefit amount) 4. Tax implications of combined income For some couples, it makes sense for the higher earner to delay as long as possible (to age 70) to maximize the survivor benefit, even if that means the lower earner claims early.

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