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How to calculate spousal benefits when my husband filed early at 62 and I'm filing at 63?

I'm trying to understand how my spousal Social Security benefit will be calculated, and the math is confusing me. My husband started collecting at 62 rather than his full retirement age (FRA) and gets $1989 monthly (his FRA amount would have been $2808). I'm now 63 and starting my own benefits, which will be $886 (my FRA amount would have been $1191). Here's what I don't understand about spousal benefits - do I calculate it based on the difference between his FRA amount and my ACTUAL benefit? Or is it his FRA minus my FRA amount? Would it be $2808-$1191=$1617, and then I get a reduced percentage of that for filing early? I think there's a reduction for each month before my FRA that I file, but I'm not sure how much. Has anyone gone through this calculation recently? I enjoy figuring out the exact math rather than just waiting to be told a number!

The spousal benefit calculation is actually pretty straightforward once you understand it! At your full retirement age, you'd be entitled to 50% of your husband's FRA benefit (so 50% of $2808 = $1404) OR your own benefit, whichever is higher. Since you're taking it early at 63, you'll get a reduced amount of that differential. The reduction is approximately 25/36 of 1% for each month before your FRA for the first 36 months, and 5/12 of 1% for each additional month. Since you're already getting your own reduced benefit ($886), you would receive your benefit plus a supplement to bring you up to the reduced spousal amount. The spousal benefit would be reduced because you're claiming early. The formula would be: (50% of husband's FRA benefit) - (your own FRA benefit) = excess spousal amount. Then reduce that excess amount based on how early you're claiming, and add it to your own reduced benefit.

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Thank you so much! So if I understand correctly, I first calculate what 50% of his FRA benefit would be ($1404), then subtract my FRA benefit ($1191), which gives $213 as the excess amount. Then that gets reduced because I'm claiming early? So I'm actually getting less than I thought because my own benefit is fairly close to half of his.

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Had same situation with my wife. You get your benefit PLUS the difference between your benefit and half of his FRA (if that's higher), but BOTH get reduced for taking early. It's confusing!!! SSA doesn't explain it well.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you find that the actual amount you received matched what you calculated beforehand? I'm trying to budget and want to make sure I'm not overestimating what I'll receive.

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u dont actually get 10% of the difference. The formula is more complex. Basically you get your own benefit PLUS a portion of the difference between your benefit and half of his FRA amount. But since YOUR taking it early at 63 instead of your FRA theres a reduction to that amount. Best to just call SSA directly and ask.

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I've been trying to call SSA for three days now but can't get through! I'm on hold forever and then get disconnected. So frustrating!

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I've never heard of this service! That sounds exactly like what I need right now. I'll check out the video. Did they explain all the calculations to you clearly?

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Yes, the agent went through everything step by step! They explained that I'd get my own benefit plus a portion of the spousal benefit, and showed exactly how the early filing reduction worked. Much easier than trying to calculate it myself.

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Let me clarify the exact calculation for you: 1. Calculate 50% of your husband's FRA benefit: $2,808 × 0.5 = $1,404 2. Compare this to your own FRA benefit of $1,191 3. The difference (excess spousal amount) is $1,404 - $1,191 = $213 4. This excess amount gets reduced because you're claiming at 63, which is 36 months early 5. The reduction is approximately 25% for 36 months early 6. So the reduced excess amount would be around $213 × 0.75 = $159.75 7. This gets added to your own reduced benefit of $886 8. Your total benefit would be approximately $886 + $159.75 = $1,045.75 The SSA will calculate this precisely, but this gives you a good estimate. Remember that the amount will be rounded down to the nearest dollar for payment purposes.

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Thank you for breaking this down so clearly! So I'll get approximately $1,045 total (after rounding). That's actually less than I was expecting but the math makes sense now. I appreciate everyone's help explaining this confusing calculation!

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DONT FORGET about the earnings limit if you're still working!!!! If you earn over $21,240 in 2024 (for early retirees), they TAKE BACK $1 for every $2 you earn over the limit. NOBODY TOLD ME and i had to pay back $4,000!!!! Make sure you check this before filing!!!!!

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Oh that's good to know! I'm actually fully retired now so I won't have any earnings, but that's really important information for others. Sorry you had to learn the hard way!

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My situation was similar to yours last year. I had to call SSA three different times because I got three different answers about my spousal benefit calculation. The first person said I'd get half of my husband's CURRENT payment (wrong), the second said I'd get a supplement based on his FRA amount but calculated it wrong, and the third finally got it right. Make sure you speak with someone who really understands the spousal benefit rules.

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this is why i hate dealing with ssa! u never know if ur getting right info. i think half the agents dont understand the rules themselves!

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One more important thing to consider - if you're 63 now and claiming, you're permanently locking in this reduced benefit amount. If you have other resources, it might be worth waiting until your FRA to get the full spousal benefit amount. The difference between claiming at 63 vs. FRA could mean thousands of dollars over your lifetime, especially if you have longevity in your family.

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That's a good point about the permanent reduction. Unfortunately, I need the income now due to some unexpected expenses. I've calculated that I'd need to live past 82 for waiting to be financially advantageous in my specific situation. But you're right that others should definitely consider this factor!

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