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Will Social Security survivor benefits be based on my reduced or full retirement age amount?

I need some clarity on how survivor benefits work with early retirement. My situation: I'm turning 64 next month and considering taking my Social Security retirement benefits early instead of waiting until my full retirement age of 66 and 10 months. My husband is 68 and already collecting his benefits (he started at his FRA of 66). His monthly benefit is about $2,850 while mine would be around $1,720 if I take it now, or $2,310 if I wait until my FRA. My main concern is about what happens if he passes away before me. I know I'd be eligible for survivor benefits, but I'm confused about the calculation. Would I receive my reduced benefit ($1,720) plus the difference between our payments? Or would I get the difference between his benefit and what I WOULD have received at FRA ($2,310)? The SSA website is so confusing about this specific scenario. Anyone gone through this or know the answer?

If your husband passes away, you would get the higher of either your own benefit or his full benefit amount - not a combination of both. So in your example, you would receive his $2,850 payment, which would replace your smaller payment. Your own early claiming decision doesn't affect your survivor benefit amount in this case since his benefit is higher than your FRA amount would have been anyway.

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Diego Flores

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Thank you for explaining! So basically I'd get his full $2,850 no matter when I start taking my own benefits? That's a relief to know. Does this mean there's no financial downside to me taking my benefits early as far as survivor benefits are concerned?

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Sean Murphy

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my aunt got widowed last yr and she gets her husbands full amount now. she started her own benefits at 63 but now gets his instead because it was bigger. they dont add them up or anything

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Diego Flores

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Thanks for sharing your aunt's experience. That helps confirm what the previous person said. I appreciate the real-world example!

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StarStrider

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The previous responses are correct, but I'll add a bit more detail. As a widow, you would receive the higher of: 1. Your own benefit amount (whether reduced for early filing or not) 2. Your deceased husband's actual benefit amount You don't receive both, and they don't calculate any "difference" between the two. It's simply whichever amount is higher. In your case, since your husband's benefit ($2,850) is higher than both your reduced amount ($1,720) and your FRA amount ($2,310), you would receive $2,850 as a widow. This is why sometimes it makes financial sense for the lower-earning spouse to claim early - the early filing reduction won't matter for survivor benefits if the deceased spouse's benefit is higher anyway. Just make sure you understand any potential implications for your current household income if you both are living on these benefits together now.

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Zara Malik

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does this work the other way too? my wife makes more than me and plans to wait till 70 to get her max benefit. if she dies first do i get her bigger amount?

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StarStrider

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Yes, absolutely. The survivor benefit rules work the same regardless of gender. If your wife claims at 70 and has a larger benefit than yours, and she passes away first, you would receive her higher benefit amount as a widower. The surviving spouse (regardless of gender) receives the higher of their own benefit or the deceased spouse's benefit.

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Luca Marino

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BE CAREFUL!! There's a HUGE TRAP that the SSA doesn't tell you about!!! If you claim YOUR OWN benefit early and your husband dies BEFORE you reach your own FRA, they will REDUCE your survivor benefits!!! The SSA website HIDES this information and the representatives LIE about it! I learned this the HARD WAY when my husband died last year and they cut my expected survivor amount by 4.75%!!! DON'T TRUST THEM!!!

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StarStrider

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I understand your frustration, but I want to clarify this point for accuracy. There are two separate rules working here: 1. If you claim your own retirement benefit early, that benefit is permanently reduced. 2. If you claim survivor benefits before your FRA, the survivor benefit is reduced (regardless of when you claimed your own benefit). However, once you reach your FRA, you can get the full survivor benefit even if you took your own benefit early. It sounds like you might have claimed survivor benefits before reaching your FRA, which caused the reduction. It's not a "trap" but rather two different claiming rules that can interact in complex ways.

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Nia Davis

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I went through exactly this when planning my retirement. My advice based on my experience: 1. Get an appointment with SSA to discuss your specific situation. Their phone lines are always jammed, but I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through quickly. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU 2. Ask specifically about the "widow(er)'s limit" - this is important and sometimes representatives don't mention it unless asked directly. 3. Get any advice in writing if possible, or at least take detailed notes with the representative's name. When I spoke with SSA, they confirmed that in a situation like yours, you would receive your husband's full benefit amount as a survivor, and your early claiming decision wouldn't impact that specific scenario. But there are other factors that could apply to your unique situation that might be worth discussing with them directly.

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Diego Flores

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Thank you for these suggestions. I've been trying to get through to SSA for days without success. I'll check out that Claimyr service you mentioned - anything to avoid these endless busy signals! And I'll definitely ask about the widow's limit, I hadn't heard of that term before.

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Mateo Perez

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my mother in law took her ss at 62 and when my father in law died she got his full benefit which was alot more. so ur early filing doesnt matter if his benefit is bigger anyway. but she had to go to the ssa office with his death certificate to switch over to the survivor benefit it doesnt happen automatically

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Diego Flores

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That's good to know about needing to go in person with the death certificate. I wouldn't have known it's not automatic. Thanks for sharing your mother-in-law's experience.

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Sean Murphy

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dont u also get a one time death benefit of like $250 when ur spouse dies? not much but its something

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StarStrider

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Yes, that's correct. Social Security does provide a one-time death benefit payment of $255 to a surviving spouse if they were living with the deceased or, if living apart, were receiving certain Social Security benefits on the deceased's record. If there's no eligible surviving spouse, the payment can go to a child who is eligible for benefits on the deceased's record. It's not much, but it is available to help with immediate expenses.

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Zara Malik

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This stuff always confuses me...so many rules! im gonna have to start thinking about all this soon too...

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One additional point I think is worth mentioning: Even though your early filing won't affect your survivor benefits in this particular case (since your husband's benefit is higher than your FRA amount), there is a general benefit to having the higher-earning spouse delay claiming as long as possible (even past FRA to age 70) if longevity is expected. This maximizes the survivor benefit for whichever spouse lives longer. However, since your husband already claimed at his FRA and not at 70, this particular strategy isn't relevant to your current situation. Just wanted to mention it for others reading who might still be planning their claiming strategy as a couple.

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Diego Flores

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That's a really good point about the higher-earning spouse delaying to maximize survivor benefits. We didn't think about that strategy when my husband filed. I wish we had considered that more carefully. This is helpful information for others who are still planning!

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