< Back to Social Security Administration

Can I claim SS survivor benefits at FRA without claiming my own retirement benefits first?

Hello everyone, I'm trying to figure out my best strategy after my husband passed away 3 months ago (still feels surreal typing that). I'm 64 and will reach my full retirement age (FRA) next year. My husband was already receiving his Social Security retirement, which was about $2,800/month. My own benefit at FRA would be around $1,950/month. I've been getting conflicting information from friends and even when I called SSA (waited 2+ hours only to get disconnected!). Here's what I need to know: Can I apply ONLY for survivor benefits when I reach my FRA without having to start my own retirement benefits first? I've heard different things - some say I need to be on my own benefits first, others say I can choose either one. I'd prefer to take the survivor benefit at my FRA (since it's higher) and let my own benefit grow until 70 if that's possible. Does anyone know the correct rule here? Thank you for any help!

You absolutely CAN claim survivor benefits without claiming your own retirement benefits first. In fact, that's often a smart strategy. Survivor benefits reach their maximum at your FRA (unlike retirement benefits which grow until 70). Since your survivor benefit would be 100% of what your husband was receiving ($2,800), you can claim that at your FRA, then switch to your own retirement benefit at 70 if it's grown larger than the survivor benefit. The SSA should have explained this option to you - it's one of the few remaining opportunities to use a "switching strategy" since the law changed in 2015. Just make sure when you apply to be very clear you're ONLY applying for survivor benefits, not retirement.

0 coins

Thank you so much! That's exactly what I was hoping was possible. When I tried calling, the representative seemed rushed and gave me confusing answers. Do you know if I need to provide anything special when applying to make sure they understand I ONLY want survivor benefits? I'm nervous about them automatically starting both benefits.

0 coins

My condolences on your loss. I was in your shoes 2 years ago. I'm pretty sure you can get either one first, but definitely check with SSA directly to make sure. Good luck!

0 coins

Thank you for your kind words. It's been a difficult adjustment. Did you end up taking survivor benefits or your own first? I keep getting conflicting info when I call SSA.

0 coins

You're getting confused advice because the rules changed in 2015 with the Bipartisan Budget Act, but survivor benefits were treated differently than spousal benefits. Here's the deal: You CAN take survivor benefits at FRA and then switch to your own later (or vice versa). This is still allowed. You'll want to compare what your own benefit would grow to at age 70 - if your own benefit amount × 1.32 (8% per year growth for 4 years) exceeds your survivor benefit, then your strategy makes sense. Based on your numbers ($1,950 × 1.32 = $2,574), it might not be worth waiting since the survivor benefit is still higher at $2,800. But you absolutely have the CHOICE to apply for either one first - that's your right under the current rules.

0 coins

wait so wich one shoudl she take? sounds like the husbands is alredy more so why wait? I get so confussed with all these SS rules!

0 coins

I've been through this EXACT situation and dealt with so much MISINFORMATION from SSA itself!!! Here's what happened to me: applied for survivor benefits at my FRA, clearly stated I ONLY wanted survivor benefits, but when I got my award letter they had processed BOTH benefits!!! Took me 4 months of calls and finally going in person to get it fixed. The system seems designed to confuse us! They even tried telling me I couldn't do what I was asking for until I showed them their own policy. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. Write down who you talk to, when, and what they said. Ask for managers when needed. The rules DO allow what you're asking about but some reps don't understand the nuances.

0 coins

Oh no, this is exactly what I'm worried about! Did you have any documentation or specific language that helped you finally get it straightened out? I'm definitely going to write everything down from now on.

0 coins

my mom took her husbands benefits first (he passed 5 yrs ago) and it worked out good for her. but she was younger than u are now so maybe different for your age. good luck with everything sorry about ur husband

0 coins

Thank you for sharing your mom's experience. I appreciate the kind words.

0 coins

I've been trying to reach SSA for weeks about a similar question and can't get through! I spent over 3 hours on hold yesterday only to get disconnected. Has anyone found a better way to actually speak to someone at Social Security? I need real answers not what's on their website (which is so confusing).

0 coins

I found a service called Claimyr that helps you skip the long Social Security phone lines. You pay them a fee and they'll call SSA and hold your place in line, then call you when they reach a representative. Saved me about 2 hours of hold time. Check out their video demo at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - the service was really helpful when I needed to straighten out my survivor benefits last year. Their website is claimyr.com if you want to look into it.

0 coins

I think you're all missing something important here. Survivor benefits and retirement benefits are two totally different programs with different rules. You HAVE to apply for both separately anyway, they're not automatic. You can definitely do what you're asking. I worked for 30+ years before retiring, and one thing SSA doesn't tell you is there's a special "restricted application" form you should ask for specifically when you go in. Make an appointment at your local office rather than calling - you'll get much better service in person.

0 coins

There actually is NO special "restricted application" form anymore! This was phased out with the 2015 law changes. You simply complete the standard application and specify which benefit you're applying for. The problem is many SSA employees will still process both benefits simultaneously if you don't clearly state your intentions multiple times throughout the process. I learned this the hard way!

0 coins

This thread is super helpful for me too!! Im in a similar spot but Im only 60 - lost my hubby last year and trying to figurre out when to take which benefit. So confused!!

0 coins

At 60, your situation would be a bit different. If you take survivor benefits early (before your FRA), they're reduced permanently. And if you're still working, you might be subject to the earnings test which could reduce benefits. For someone younger than FRA, it's often best to take the smaller benefit first and switch later, but this really depends on your specific situation and benefit amounts.

0 coins

I just wanted to update everyone. I finally got through to a supervisor at SSA who confirmed that YES, I can take ONLY survivor benefits at my FRA without taking my own retirement benefits. She explained I need to be very explicit when applying that I'm only applying for widow's benefits. Thank you all for your help and advice - it gave me the confidence to keep pushing for a clear answer!

0 coins

That's great news! Make sure to get the supervisor's name and direct extension if possible for when you actually file. Also request a written confirmation of this policy if they can provide it. When you do file, review all paperwork carefully before signing to ensure it only shows an application for survivor benefits. Glad you got the right information!

0 coins

TaxRefund AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
6,600 users helped today