Can I switch from my Social Security to higher survivor benefits after reaching FRA?
I'm currently 58 and trying to plan my Social Security strategy after losing my husband last year. He passed at 64 before claiming any benefits. His estimated benefit at FRA would have been around $2,850. My own benefit at 62 would be approximately $1,100, or $1,570 if I wait until my FRA (66 and 10 months). I'm wondering if this strategy would work: claim MY OWN reduced retirement benefits at 62, then switch to my husband's survivor benefits when I reach my FRA? Would I receive 100% of what he would have gotten? Or should I wait and just claim survivor benefits at my FRA? The financial difference seems substantial - if I understand correctly, taking survivor benefits at my FRA might give me his full $2,850, versus only getting reduced survivor benefits if I claim early. But I'm also concerned about making ends meet in the meantime. Has anyone successfully done this switching strategy? The SSA representative I spoke with seemed unsure about whether this would work.
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A Man D Mortal
You've got it backwards actually. For survivor benefits, you'd want to take the SURVIVOR benefits first (as early as 60), then switch to your OWN retirement at YOUR FRA or later. Survivor benefits and retirement benefits have different rules. With survivor benefits, you can take them reduced as early as age 60. Then later switch to your own retirement benefit at FRA or later (to get delayed retirement credits up to age 70). If you did it your way (own benefits first), you'd be stuck with reduced benefits permanently.
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Zadie Patel
•Oh no! I completely misunderstood how this works. Thank you so much for clarifying. So I could take his survivor benefits at 60 (though reduced), then switch to my own at FRA or even 70? Would my survivor benefits at 60 be significantly reduced from the $2,850?
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Declan Ramirez
This happened to my sister last yr. She was told by SSA that she could take survivor at 60 (reduced) and then switch to her own at 70 (maximum). But they messed up her application TWICE and it took 4 months to get the first check. The whole system is a nightmare to navigate.
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Zadie Patel
•I'm sorry your sister had such a difficult experience. Did she eventually get everything sorted out? I'm worried about making a mistake that could cost me thousands over my lifetime.
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Emma Morales
The person above is absolutely correct. With survivor benefits, the optimal strategy is usually: 1. Take REDUCED survivor benefits early (as early as 60) 2. Switch to YOUR OWN retirement benefit at age 70 (for maximum delayed retirement credits) This only works if your own benefit at 70 would be higher than the survivor benefit. If your own benefit would never exceed the survivor benefit, then waiting until your FRA to claim survivor benefits would be better. At age 60, survivor benefits would be reduced to about 71.5% of your husband's FRA amount. So $2,850 × 71.5% = approximately $2,038 monthly if you claim at 60.
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Zadie Patel
•Thank you for breaking it down so clearly! So I'd get about $2,038 at age 60, versus the full $2,850 if I wait until my FRA. And with my own benefit potentially growing to around $2,100 at age 70, that's a lot to consider. Does the survivor benefit include any delayed credits my husband would have earned if he had lived past his FRA?
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Katherine Hunter
I've been trying to figure out the same thing and it's SO CONFUSING!!! The SSA website explains things terribly and every time I call I get different answers. I spent 4 HOURS on hold last week just to get disconnected. This whole system is designed to make us mess up our benefits I swear.
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Lucas Parker
•I had the same problem trying to reach SSA about my survivor benefits. After getting disconnected multiple times, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to a real person at SSA in under 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me hours of frustration and the agent I spoke with was able to run calculations for different claiming scenarios.
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Donna Cline
my condolences on your husband. i did something similar when my wife passed. took survivor at 61 and now switched to my own at 68. the survivor benefits helped when i really needed it and now my own benefit is higher. best decision i made
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Zadie Patel
•Thank you for sharing your experience. It's helpful to hear from someone who's actually used this strategy. Did you find the process of switching from survivor to your own benefits complicated?
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Harper Collins
Everyone here is giving you partly correct info, but missing something important. If your husband died before claiming, his benefit amount for survivor calculations is based on what he would have received at his FRA (full retirement age). BUT if he had already claimed, it would be based on what he was actually receiving (with potential adjustments). Also, dont forget that while youre receiving survivor benefits you can still WORK without the same harsh earnings limits that apply to regular retirement benefits before FRA!!!! This is a HUGE advantage many people miss. And yes the strategy of taking survivor benefits early and switching to your own later CAN make sense in your case.
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Zadie Patel
•That's really valuable information about the earnings test being different for survivor benefits! I'm still working part-time and was worried about benefit reductions. I appreciate you pointing out that specific advantage - no one at SSA mentioned that to me.
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Emma Morales
Based on the numbers you shared, here's a rough calculation of your options: Option 1: Take reduced survivor benefits at 60 (~$2,038/month), then switch to your own benefit at 70 (~$2,100/month) Option 2: Wait until your FRA to claim unreduced survivor benefits ($2,850/month) Between ages 60-FRA, Option 1 gives you about $2,038 × 12 months × 6.83 years = ~$167,000 in total benefits you wouldn't receive under Option 2. Option 2 pays $812/month more from your FRA onwards. It would take about 17 years after your FRA to break even financially. This suggests Option 1 is better if maximizing lifetime benefits is your goal, unless you expect to live well into your 90s.
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Zadie Patel
•Wow, I hadn't thought about calculating the break-even point. 17 years is a long time! This really puts things in perspective. It sounds like taking survivor benefits earlier makes more sense in my situation, especially since I could really use the income now rather than later. You've been so helpful!
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Katherine Hunter
Does anyone know if you can collect these survivor benefits if you're working??? I thought there was some kind of limit to how much you can earn without them taking back your benefits????
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A Man D Mortal
•Yes, there is an earnings test for survivor benefits claimed before FRA, but it's the same as for retirement benefits: In 2025, you can earn up to $22,320 without penalty. Above that, they withhold $1 in benefits for every $2 earned. But importantly, once you reach FRA, they recalculate your benefit amount to give credit for months benefits were withheld. And after FRA, there's no earnings limit at all.
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Declan Ramirez
I just want to warn everyone that SS doesn't always explain all ur options!! My mom found out YEARS after my dad died that she could have gotten more by switching between benefits. No one told her! Make them run ALL the calculations and get everything in writing!!!!
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Donna Cline
•same happened to my sister, she lost out on like $30k because nobody told her about switching options. always get a second opinion and talk to someone who knows the rules
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