Will I get reduced survivor benefits if my husband claimed Social Security early at 62?
I'm trying to figure out how my survivor benefits will work and getting confused by all the rules. My husband passed away last year at age 67. He had started his Social Security at 62 (back in 2020) and was getting around $1,850 per month when he died. I'm turning 70 next month and haven't claimed any benefits yet because I wanted to maximize mine. I was planning to file for survivor benefits instead of my own since his earnings were higher than mine throughout our careers. But now I'm worried - will I get his FULL benefit amount or will it be permanently reduced because HE claimed early? The person at my local office gave me a confusing answer about FRA reductions carrying over. Can someone explain this in plain English? Will waiting until I'm 70 help me get his full amount or am I stuck with his reduced benefit forever?
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Sean Murphy
This is a common confusion point. The good news is that as a widow/widower, you're entitled to the higher of: (1) what your husband was receiving at death OR (2) 82.5% of his full retirement age benefit. Since you're waiting until age 70, you'll actually get 100% of what he would have received at his full retirement age. His early filing reduction doesn't transfer to you as the survivor. You made a smart choice waiting until 70, as survivor benefits reach their maximum at your full retirement age (which would have been around 66-67 for you).
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Anastasia Popov
•Thank you so much for explaining! So even though he took a reduction by filing at 62, I'll still get his full FRA amount because I'm past my own FRA? That's such a relief. I was losing sleep thinking I'd be penalized forever because of his early filing decision.
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Zara Khan
my condolences on your loss. when my hubby passed i got his full amount even tho he took SS early. they actually gave me choices at the SSA office. dont worry too much about it
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Anastasia Popov
•Thank you, and I'm sorry for your loss as well. It's reassuring to hear from someone who's been through this. Did you have to bring any special documentation to your appointment?
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Luca Ferrari
Good for you waiting until 70! So many people dont understand that survivor benefits work differently than spousal. You get the HIGHER of what he was receiving OR 82.5% of his PIA (primary insurance amount). Your own benefit maxes out at 70 but survivor benefits max at YOUR full retirement age. You might want to check if your own benefit is actually higher BECAUSE youve waited to 70? Sometimes that ends up being more if you had good earnings.
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Anastasia Popov
•You bring up a good point. I did work for about 32 years as a nurse, but my husband was an engineer and always earned quite a bit more. But you're right that I should compare both options. Is there a way to find out what my own benefit at 70 would be compared to the survivor benefit without actually applying?
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Nia Davis
Everyone here is giving you good information, but I want to clarify one important point. If you are claiming ONLY survivor benefits at age 70, you'll receive 100% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is what he would have received at his FRA. His early claiming reduction doesn't affect your survivor benefit. However, you should really explore whether your own retirement benefit might actually be HIGHER at age 70. Since you waited until 70, your own benefit has grown by 8% per year beyond your FRA (delayed retirement credits). Survivor benefits don't get these increases beyond your FRA. Here's what you should do: Call SSA and ask for your PIA (what you'd get at your FRA) and then calculate your age 70 amount (roughly your PIA plus 24-32% depending on your exact FRA). Then compare that to your husband's PIA (not his reduced benefit). Choose whichever is higher.
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Anastasia Popov
•Thank you for this detailed explanation! I hadn't considered that my own benefit with the delayed credits might exceed his PIA. I'll definitely call and get both numbers to compare. Do you happen to know if they can tell me both figures in the same call, or do I need to make separate inquiries?
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Mateo Martinez
I went through this exact situation last year!!! The SSA people kept giving me different answers every time I called. So frustrating!!!! I spent WEEKS trying to get through on their 800 number and either got disconnected or was on hold for 2+ hours. FINALLY got the right answer but it took forever.
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Nia Davis
•The inconsistent information is unfortunately common with complex cases like this. It really depends on which representative you get and their understanding of the nuances between different benefit types. Did you ultimately confirm that you received the full PIA as a survivor benefit despite your spouse claiming early?
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QuantumQueen
I see some confusion in previous comments, so let me give you the definitive answer based on SSA rules. As a survivor, because you're claiming at 70 (well past your FRA), you're entitled to the HIGHER of: 1. What your husband was actually receiving when he died ($1,850/month) 2. 100% of your husband's Primary Insurance Amount (his unreduced FRA benefit) Since he took benefits early at 62, his $1,850 was already reduced from his PIA. His PIA was likely somewhere around $2,300-2,500 based on typical reduction factors. So you would receive his full PIA amount, not his reduced amount. However, there's another critical consideration: Your own retirement benefit at 70 has increased by 8% per year beyond your FRA (likely around 32% total). If your earnings were reasonably strong, your age-70 benefit might actually exceed your husband's PIA. If you're having trouble reaching someone at SSA by phone, I'd recommend trying Claimyr (claimyr.com). They help connect you directly to SSA agents without the hours-long hold times. There's a helpful video demo at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU showing how it works. This way you can get your specific benefit amounts and make an informed decision.
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Anastasia Popov
•Thank you for this clear explanation! I had no idea about the service you mentioned - I'll check it out. At this point I just need to speak with someone who can give me the actual numbers for both options. The hold times have been absolutely ridiculous every time I've tried calling.
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Aisha Rahman
I thought that if the person who died took benefits early, then the survivor ALWAYS gets reduced benefits too!! That's what they told my sister after her husband died. Now I'm confused...did they give her wrong information??
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QuantumQueen
•They likely gave your sister incorrect information, which unfortunately happens. The early retirement reduction your husband takes does NOT transfer to survivor benefits. The survivor benefit is based on what the deceased was entitled to receive, which includes their full PIA if the survivor is at FRA or older. Your sister should contact SSA again and specifically ask them to recalculate her survivor benefit based on her husband's PIA, not his reduced benefit amount.
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Zara Khan
this all so confusing!! i just want to add that when you go to ssa office bring EVERYTHING with you - marriage certificate, his death certificate, your ID, his social security card, birth certificates... they always want to see the original documents not copies
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Anastasia Popov
•That's great advice! I'll gather all those documents before my appointment. Definitely don't want to have to make multiple trips because I forgot something.
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Sean Murphy
I just used that Claimyr service someone mentioned above last week when I was trying to resolve an issue with my RIB application. It worked really well - got through to an agent in about 15 minutes instead of the 3+ hours I spent on my previous attempts. Just wanted to confirm it's legitimate since I was skeptical at first.
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Anastasia Popov
•Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm desperate to speak with someone who can give me actual numbers at this point, so I'll try anything that helps avoid those ridiculous hold times.
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Luca Ferrari
ALSO!!! Don't forget you can actually claim BOTH benefits at different times! Some people don't realize you can take survivor benefits at FRA (getting 100% of deceased spouse's PIA) while letting your OWN retirement benefit grow until 70. OR if your own benefit at FRA is higher than survivor, take your retirement at FRA and switch to survivor at 70. Run the numbers both ways!
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Nia Davis
•This strategy would have been excellent advice several years ago, but unfortunately the law changed with the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015. Now, if you were born after January 1, 1954, you must file for all benefits you're eligible for at the same time. The SSA will pay the higher amount, but you can't switch between them anymore. Since the original poster is turning 70 next month, they were likely born after the cutoff date and wouldn't be able to employ this strategy.
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