Confused about SS survivor benefits - can I get husband's higher amount if I don't file until FRA?
My husband just started collecting Social Security at 65 (he's tired of working). I'm 63 and haven't filed for my benefits yet. I'm really confused about what happens to me if he passes away before me. His monthly benefit is $1650, and mine would only be about $1100 if I claim my own. Do I need to wait until my full retirement age to qualify for his full amount as a survivor benefit? Or can I get it anytime after he passes? Would it be reduced if I'm not at my FRA when he dies? I've read so many contradicting things online and the SSA website is so technical. Any help would be appreciated!
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Isabella Santos
Yes, survivor benefits work differently than regular retirement benefits. If your husband passes away, you can get his FULL benefit amount as a survivor, but ONLY if you wait until your FRA to claim them. If you claim survivor benefits before your FRA, they'll be reduced based on how many months early you claim. Since your own benefit would be less than his, it would make sense to eventually switch to survivor benefits if he passes before you. The good news is that even if you claim your OWN retirement benefits early (before YOUR FRA), you can still get the full survivor benefit later by waiting until your FRA to switch to survivor benefits.
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Malik Davis
•Thank you so much for explaining! So if I understand correctly - even if I start taking my own smaller benefit now at 63, I could still switch to his full amount later if he passes, as long as I wait until my FRA to make the switch? That's a relief to know.
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StarStrider
I think u can get widows benefits at 60 but they r reduced. not sure tho mayb someone else knows better
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Isabella Santos
•You're partly right. Widow(er)'s benefits can begin as early as age 60, but they're reduced if claimed before FRA. At 60, you'd get about 71.5% of the deceased spouse's benefit. The percentage increases until you reach FRA, when you'd get 100%.
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Ravi Gupta
I went through this exact situation when my husband died 2 years ago. The SSA people were ACTUALLY HELPFUL believe it or not! But they didn't call me - I had to call them multiple times and waited FOREVER. They explained I had options depending on my age. If he passes before your FRA, you can take reduced survivors OR wait for full amount. The WEIRD THING is that survivors benefits and retirement benefits have DIFFERENT rules!!! So confusing!!!
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Freya Pedersen
•My mom had the same experience. Social Security has different rules for everything it seems. She got so frustrated trying to reach them when my dad passed. Took weeks to get through.
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Omar Hassan
After dealing with numerous clients in similar situations, I can confirm what others have said. Here's the technical explanation: 1. Survivor benefits can be claimed as early as age 60 (50 if disabled) 2. Taking survivor benefits before your FRA results in a reduction of approximately 0.396% per month early 3. At your FRA, you're entitled to 100% of your deceased spouse's benefit amount (including any delayed retirement credits they earned) In your specific situation, since your husband's benefit ($1650) is higher than your own potential benefit ($1100), you have strategic options: - You could claim your own reduced retirement benefit now and later switch to full survivor benefits at your FRA - Or claim reduced survivor benefits if he passes while you're under FRA, then switch to your own retirement benefit at 70 if it would be higher after delayed credits The key is that you have the flexibility to switch between benefit types at different points.
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Chloe Anderson
•This is EXACTLY why everyone should have a SS strategy! My financial advisor helped me plan this out. The diff between claiming at 62 vs FRA vs 70 can be HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS over a lifetime. Too many people just claim as soon as possible without understanding all the rules.
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Diego Vargas
I've been trying to reach the SSA for weeks about a similar question. Impossible to get through - busy signals, disconnects, or 3+ hour waits. Finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent confirmed what others here are saying - you can claim reduced survivor benefits as early as 60, but waiting until your FRA gets you 100% of your husband's benefit amount. The agent also mentioned that if you're already receiving retirement benefits when your spouse dies, SSA will automatically adjust your benefit to the higher survivor amount if you're eligible.
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Malik Davis
•Thank you for the tip about Claimyr! I've been putting off calling because everyone tells me how frustrating it is. I'll check out that video. And thanks for confirming the survivor benefit information - it helps to hear it from multiple sources.
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Freya Pedersen
My neighbor had this same question!!!! She started getting her own SS at 62 (big mistake i think) and when her husband died last year they switched her to his amount but it was reduced cuz she wasnt at FRA yet. ugh so complicated
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Isabella Santos
•Yes, that's the key point - if she was already collecting her own benefits and took survivors before her FRA, the survivor benefit would be reduced. It's a common misunderstanding that leads to permanently reduced benefits for many people.
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StarStrider
wait i'm confused...i thought survivors and retirement were the same thing?
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Omar Hassan
•They're actually different benefit types with different rules: - Retirement benefits: Based on your own work record - Spousal benefits: Based on your living spouse's record (max 50% of their FRA amount) - Survivor benefits: Based on your deceased spouse's record (up to 100% of what they were receiving) Each has different claiming ages, reduction formulas, and rules about when you can switch between them. This is why personalized advice is so important.
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Ravi Gupta
One thing NOBODY mentioned yet - after your husband passes away, you'll also get a one-time death benefit payment of $255. It's pathetic honestly. Barely covers any funeral costs. The system is so outdated!!!
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Malik Davis
•Wow, I had no idea the death benefit was so small. That wouldn't even cover the flowers at a funeral these days. Thanks for mentioning it though - every bit helps I guess.
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Diego Vargas
I just wanted to add - make sure all your work credits and earnings history are correct in your Social Security statement. My mom found errors in hers that would have reduced her benefit by almost $200/month! You can check your statement online at ssa.gov by creating a my Social Security account if you haven't already.
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Malik Davis
•That's good advice. I created my account last year but haven't really looked closely at all the details. I'll double-check my earnings history to make sure everything is accurate.
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