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How will earnings before my FRA in August 2025 affect Social Security payments starting in September?

I'm turning my Full Retirement Age (FRA) in August 2025 and planning to start receiving my Social Security retirement benefits in September. I'm confused about the earnings test - does my income from January through August 2025 count against me for the earnings limit? I've been making about $42,000 a year at my part-time job and plan to continue working even after I start collecting benefits. Will SSA look at my total 2025 earnings or just what I earn after I reach FRA? I don't want to get hit with any unexpected deductions or have to pay anything back. Anyone dealt with this timing issue before?

I went through EXACTLY this last year. Here's what nobody tells you: make sure you're looking at your actual FRA date carefully. Mine was July 15, 2024, and I thought as long as I reached FRA in July, I was good for July. WRONG! According to SSA, you reach FRA on the day BEFORE your birthday. So I actually reached FRA on July 14, not July 15. What happened? They counted an extra month of my earnings against the limit! It took three calls and a visit to my local office to straighten it out. Double check your EXACT FRA date on your Social Security statement. It might not be what you think!

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Lim Wong

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Oh wow, I hadn't considered that! I'll definitely check my statement to confirm the exact date. Thanks for pointing this out - could have caused me a headache later.

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I'm in a similar situation - turning FRA in June 2025 and planning to start benefits in July. This thread has been incredibly helpful! Just to summarize what I'm understanding for anyone else reading: 1. In your FRA year (2025), SSA only looks at earnings BEFORE the month you reach FRA 2. They apply a monthly earnings test (around $1,950-2,000/month for 2025) 3. Once you hit FRA in August, you can earn unlimited amounts with zero penalty 4. Make sure to verify your EXACT FRA date on your SSA statement - it might be the day before your birthday One question I still have: if you exceed the monthly limit in say, March, do they reduce your benefit payment for that specific month, or do they calculate everything at the end of the year? I'm trying to figure out if I should reduce my hours in the months leading up to my FRA or if it doesn't matter since I'm not collecting benefits yet anyway. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this is way more helpful than trying to navigate the SSA website!

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When to apply for Social Security before reaching FRA - 3 months or 6 months ahead?

I'm turning 67 (my full retirement age) in September and I'm confused about when exactly I should submit my Social Security retirement application. The SSA website says something about applying 4 months before, but my neighbor applied 3 months before and my brother insists I should do it 6 months ahead. I don't want to mess this up! Will applying too early or too late affect my benefit amount? Does anyone know the ACTUAL correct timeframe for applying before FRA? I'm planning to stop working completely in August if that matters.

To summarize what everyone has shared: 1. The official SSA recommendation is to apply 3-4 months before you want benefits to begin 2. You can't apply more than 4 months before (so your brother's advice about 6 months is incorrect) 3. If you want benefits to start for September (your birth month), applying in June would be ideal 4. Benefits are paid the month after they're due, so your September benefit will arrive in October 5. Applying online is typically faster than other methods 6. Having all your documents ready will help speed up the process Since you're reaching FRA and have a straightforward case, 3-4 months should be sufficient.

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Thank you so much for this clear summary! I feel much more confident now. I'll plan to apply in June for my September FRA. I appreciate everyone's help!

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Just wanted to add that you should also check your earnings record on your my Social Security account before applying to make sure everything is accurate. I found an error in mine from 2018 that would have reduced my benefit if I hadn't caught it. It took about 6 weeks to get corrected, so definitely worth checking well before you apply. You can access it at ssa.gov/myaccount. Also, if you're married, don't forget to consider spousal benefits strategies - sometimes it makes sense to coordinate timing with your spouse's application.

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Can I opt out of Social Security Medicare Part D premium if I already have prescription coverage?

I just started receiving my Social Security retirement benefits last month and got a letter yesterday saying they're automatically deducting $13.80 monthly for Medicare Part D (prescription coverage). The problem is I already have comprehensive prescription coverage through my Medicare Supplement plan that I'm paying for separately! This seems like I'm paying twice for the same thing. Can I decline the Part D coverage and stop these automatic deductions? Do I need to send SSA a formal letter with proof of my existing coverage? Has anyone successfully opted out of this? I'm on a fixed income now and every dollar counts!

You should check your Medicare paperwork very carefully. When you first signed up for Medicare, you had choices to make about Part D coverage. If you didn't specifically decline Part D, you might have been automatically enrolled in a plan. My advice is to call the number on your Medicare card and ask for clarification about what plans you're currently enrolled in before making any changes.

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Thank you - I'll double check all my paperwork. I remember signing up for Medicare when I turned 65 but I honestly don't recall if I specifically declined Part D because I thought my supplemental plan covered it. Medicare is so confusing!

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I went through this exact same situation last year! Here's what I learned: First, you need to determine if your Blue Cross Blue Shield plan is actually a Medicare Supplement (Medigap) policy or a Medicare Advantage plan. True Medigap policies don't include prescription coverage, but some Medicare Advantage plans do. Call BCBS and ask specifically if your plan provides "creditable prescription drug coverage" that meets Medicare standards. If it does, they should be able to send you a letter confirming this. Then you can use that letter to disenroll from Part D by calling SSA or submitting the CMS-1763 form. But be absolutely certain your coverage is creditable first - the late enrollment penalties for Part D are permanent and can add up to hundreds of dollars per year if you ever need to re-enroll later!

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@5d1b0c472b1b It took about 6 weeks total for SSA to process my disenrollment after I submitted the CMS-1763 form with my creditable coverage letter from BCBS. They did refund the premiums that had been deducted, but only back to the date they received my disenrollment request - not from when I first started getting the deductions. So the sooner you act, the better! The key is getting that creditable coverage letter from your insurance company first. BCBS was actually pretty helpful once I explained what I needed it for. Just make sure you understand exactly what type of plan you have before making any changes. The Medicare.gov website has a good tool for comparing plans if you want to double-check your coverage.

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@Fiona Gallagher It took about 6 weeks total for SSA to process my disenrollment after I submitted all the paperwork. They did refund the premiums that had been deducted, but only back to the effective date of my disenrollment - so I lost about 2 months of premiums while waiting for the paperwork to go through. My advice is to act fast and make sure you have that creditable coverage letter from your insurance company before you submit anything to SSA. Also keep copies of everything you send them because they lost "my" first submission and I had to send it again. The whole process was frustrating but worth it in the end to avoid paying for duplicate coverage!

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Can my 84-year-old mom switch to my late dad's Social Security survivor benefits after taking her own at 62?

Mom took her Social Security at 62 (she's 84 now) while Dad waited until his full retirement age to start collecting. Dad passed away last month and we're trying to figure out if Mom can switch to survivor benefits based on his record. Would she get his full amount or would it be reduced because she took her own benefits early? The funeral home said something about survivor benefits but didn't really explain the details. Mom's monthly payment is about $1,250 and Dad was getting around $2,750. Does anyone know how this works? Does her age now (84) matter or just the fact that she started her own benefits early?

one more thing... when my mom finally got her survivors benefits they gave her back pay from when my dad died, not just from when she applied! so make sure ur mom asks about that!!

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That's not typically how it works - survivor benefits are usually payable from the month of application, not death. Your mom may have had a unique situation, or perhaps she applied within the same month as your dad's passing. The official policy is that retroactive benefits for widow(er)s are limited to 6 months maximum, and only if the application is delayed beyond the first eligible month. But it never hurts to ask!

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Grace. I went through this exact situation with my grandmother a few years ago. She was also receiving reduced benefits from claiming early, but when my grandfather passed, she was able to switch to his full survivor benefit amount. At 84, your mom is well past full retirement age, so she should definitely be eligible for your dad's full $2,750 monthly benefit. The early filing penalty on her own benefits doesn't carry over to survivor benefits - that's a completely separate calculation. A few practical tips from my experience: Try calling SSA first thing in the morning (8am) when they open - you'll have better luck getting through. Also, if you have a local SSA office nearby, you might consider going in person if the phone system is too frustrating. Some offices take walk-ins for urgent matters like survivor benefits. Make sure to ask specifically about when the benefits will start - sometimes there can be a delay between approval and the first payment, so knowing the timeline helps with budgeting. Your mom really deserves that higher payment after what she's been through.

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Dual retirement filing timeline - when will we receive our first SS benefits payment?

Just submitted our retirement applications today and I'm anxious about planning our budget for the next couple months. Does anyone know the typical timeline for receiving the first Social Security retirement payment after filing? Both my wife (she's 67) and I (just turned 66) submitted our applications on the same day. We're wondering if we'll get our first checks at the same time or if they process them separately. Also, should we expect direct deposit or physical checks for the first payment? I keep hearing different things from friends who retired recently. Any insight from recent retirees about how long we should expect to wait? Thanks!

btw did u guys sign up for medicare too or just ss retirement

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Debra Bai

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We already had Medicare from when we turned 65, so this was just for the retirement benefits. Good question though!

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One thing I don't see mentioned yet - make sure you keep checking your mail for any correspondence from SSA even after you get your first payment! Sometimes they send follow-up letters requesting additional documentation or notifying you of benefit adjustments that could affect future payments. I missed an important letter last year that was buried in my mailbox and it caused a temporary hold on my benefits. Also, once you start receiving payments, you can set up text alerts through your MySSA account to get notified when payments are deposited. Really helpful for peace of mind, especially in those first few months when you're still getting used to the new payment schedule.

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