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Another thing to keep in mind - if you're planning to work past your Full Retirement Age (67 in your case), you might want to consider whether it makes sense to keep benefits suspended even after this contract ends. Once you hit FRA, there's no earnings limit, but if you continue working, you could earn delayed retirement credits (8% per year) by keeping benefits suspended until age 70. Of course, this depends on your overall financial situation and health, but it's worth running the numbers. Given that you're already comfortable suspending benefits for this contract, you might find the math works in your favor to stay suspended longer if you plan to keep working. Just something to discuss with a financial advisor when the time comes!
That's a really smart long-term perspective! I hadn't thought beyond just this immediate contract situation, but you're absolutely right that I should consider the bigger picture. Since I'm only 64 and this job opportunity came up unexpectedly, it's got me thinking that maybe I'm not as ready for full retirement as I thought. The 8% delayed retirement credits could really add up if I end up enjoying working again and decide to keep going past 67. I'll definitely want to crunch those numbers with a financial advisor once I see how this contract goes. It's amazing how one job opportunity can completely change your retirement timeline! Thanks for giving me something important to think about for the future.
Just wanted to share my experience since I went through something very similar last year. I was 65 and took a consulting gig that would put me over the earnings limit. The suspension process was actually pretty straightforward once I got through to SSA (took about a week of trying different times to avoid the busy periods). One tip that really helped me - when you call, have your exact start date for the new job ready, and be prepared to tell them approximately how much you expect to earn for the year. They'll want to know this for their records. Also, I found that calling first thing in the morning (8 AM EST) or late afternoon gave me the best chance of getting through without crazy hold times. The whole process took about 2-3 weeks from my phone call to actually seeing the benefits stop. Make sure you budget for that transition period! When I restarted benefits 8 months later, it was much quicker - only took about 10 days to get payments flowing again. Best of luck with your new position!
I want to thank everyone for their helpful responses. This has clarified so much for me during a really difficult time. I'm going to try to get through to SSA to discuss my specific situation, and I'll make sure to gather all those documents mentioned. It's a relief to know that my survivor benefits will be based on his SSDI amount rather than an early retirement calculation. At least that's one less thing to worry about while we focus on making the most of our remaining time together.
I'm so sorry to hear about your husband's diagnosis. What a difficult situation to navigate while dealing with such heartbreaking news. I wanted to add one important detail that might help with your planning: Since your husband is receiving SSDI and is 65, his benefits will automatically convert to regular retirement benefits when he reaches his full retirement age (67 for someone born in 1960 or later). This conversion happens seamlessly without any reduction, so the amount stays the same. For your survivor benefits, you have some strategic options to consider. Since you mentioned your own benefit would be small, you might want to explore taking your own reduced retirement benefit first (as early as 62 if needed) and then switching to the higher survivor benefit later. This strategy sometimes maximizes total lifetime benefits, especially if there's a significant gap between your benefit and his. Also, if you're still working, be aware of the earnings test limits if you claim benefits before your full retirement age. The SSA representative can walk you through these calculations when you meet with them. Take care of yourself during this incredibly difficult time. The community here is very supportive if you need to ask follow-up questions.
Thank you for the additional strategic insight about potentially taking my own reduced benefit first and switching later. I hadn't considered that approach but it makes sense given the difference in amounts. I'll definitely ask the SSA rep about running those calculations when I finally get through to them. Your point about the earnings test is also helpful - I do some part-time work that I wasn't sure how it would affect things. I really appreciate everyone's support and guidance during this overwhelming time.
As someone new to this community, I really appreciate all the detailed explanations here! I'm in a similar situation where my spouse is planning to delay until 70, and I was also confused about how spousal benefits work. What I found particularly helpful was learning the distinction between spousal benefits (while both are alive) versus survivor benefits (after one spouse passes). I hadn't realized that the delayed retirement credits my spouse earns by waiting until 70 will eventually benefit me as a survivor, even though they don't increase my current spousal benefit. One thing I'm still wondering about - if my spouse files at 70 but I want to claim my spousal benefit earlier (say at my FRA), can I do that? Or do I have to wait until he actually starts collecting his benefits? The timing aspect seems like another layer of complexity to navigate. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge. This thread has been incredibly educational!
Welcome to the community! Great question about timing - you actually CAN claim your spousal benefit even if your spouse hasn't filed yet, but only if you meet certain conditions. If your spouse has reached full retirement age (even if they haven't filed), you can file a "restricted application" for spousal benefits only. However, this option was mostly eliminated for people born after January 1, 1954 due to changes in the law. For most people now, when you file for benefits, you're automatically filing for both your own retirement benefit AND spousal benefits (if eligible), and you'll receive whichever is higher. You can't typically choose to receive only spousal benefits while delaying your own. The key thing is that your spouse must have filed for their benefits before you can receive spousal benefits based on their record. So if your spouse is waiting until 70 to file, you'd generally need to wait until then too if you want the spousal benefit. This is definitely another layer of complexity that makes Social Security planning so challenging! I'd recommend getting a personalized analysis from SSA or a qualified financial advisor who can look at your specific birth dates and situation.
As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for this incredibly informative discussion! I'm facing a very similar situation - my husband is planning to delay until 70, and I was also confused about whether spousal benefits would be based on his FRA amount or his enhanced age-70 benefit. What really helped me understand was the distinction several people made between spousal benefits (based on PIA/FRA amount) and survivor benefits (which DO get the delayed retirement credits). That's such an important difference that I don't think gets explained clearly anywhere else. I also appreciated the real-world examples from people who have actually gone through this process. It's one thing to read the rules, but hearing from someone like Jacob Lee who shared his actual numbers really helps it click into place. One follow-up question - for those who have dealt with SSA directly, is there a best time of day or method to call to actually reach someone knowledgeable? I'm dreading having to navigate their phone system based on some of the experiences shared here!
Welcome to the community, Sean! I'm also new here and have found this discussion incredibly helpful. Regarding calling SSA, from what I've gathered in this thread and my own research, early morning (right when they open at 8 AM) or late afternoon seem to be the best times to avoid the longest hold times. However, Gabriel Freeman mentioned using Claimyr.com to get connected faster - that might be worth looking into if you're having trouble getting through the regular way. I haven't tried it myself yet, but several people here seemed to have good experiences with it. Also, I'd recommend having all your questions written down beforehand and asking the representative to clarify whether they're talking about spousal benefits vs. survivor benefits, since that distinction seems to be where a lot of the confusion comes from based on this thread. Good luck navigating the system!
my sister tried doing the thing where she only filed for spousal and they AUTOMATICALLY filed her for her own benefits too even though she told them not to. she was so mad! but the SSA person said the law changed and they had no choice. this was in 2020.
As someone who just went through this process last year, I can confirm what others are saying about the deemed filing rules. My wife and I had the exact same confusion! One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned much - make sure you get your benefit estimates updated from SSA before making your final decision. The $2,950 and $2,250 estimates you mentioned might have changed based on recent earnings or COLA adjustments. Also, consider creating accounts on ssa.gov for both of you if you haven't already. You can run "what if" scenarios there to see exactly how different claiming strategies would affect your monthly benefits. It really helped us visualize the trade-offs. The strategy of having your husband file at FRA while you wait until 70 is solid given your numbers, especially with family longevity on your side. Just remember that once you make the decision, you generally can't change it (except for a limited withdrawal option within 12 months). Good luck with your planning!
Thanks for mentioning the ssa.gov accounts - I actually just set mine up last week but haven't explored the "what if" scenarios yet. That sounds really helpful! You're right about getting updated estimates too. I've been using numbers from a statement that's about 6 months old. One quick question - when you say there's a "limited withdrawal option within 12 months," does that mean if I file at FRA and then regret not waiting until 70, I could potentially undo that decision? Or is that only for very specific circumstances?
Jamal Edwards
Just remember that these webinars are designed to give you the BARE MINIMUM information! They DON'T tell you about all the loopholes and special filing strategies that could get you thousands more in benefits. My financial advisor showed me how to optimize my benefits in ways the SSA never mentioned. They're not going to tell you how to maximize your payout!
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ThunderBolt7
•To be fair, most of those "loopholes" were closed by legislation in 2015. The file-and-suspend and restricted application strategies aren't available to most people retiring now. The webinar focuses on the rules as they currently exist, not outdated strategies that no longer work for most new retirees.
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Rami Samuels
I attended the webinar about 6 months ago when I was 62 and considering early retirement. It's definitely worth the hour, especially if you're new to Social Security planning like I was. They do a good job explaining the relationship between your full retirement age and benefit amounts, and the breakeven analysis for early vs delayed filing was eye-opening. One thing I found particularly useful was their explanation of how continuing to work affects your benefits - both the earnings test limits and how additional earnings can potentially increase your benefit amount if they're higher than previous years in your top 35. My advice: attend with specific questions ready. The Q&A portion was where I learned the most, including details about Medicare enrollment timing that I hadn't considered. Even though it's basic level, it gives you a solid foundation to build on when you start diving deeper into your personal strategy.
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