Will my disabled adult child get increased survivor benefits after WEP repeal when my ex-husband dies?
I've just found out my ex-husband has terminal cancer with maybe 6 months left. We have a disabled adult daughter (29) who receives DAC benefits on his record - currently $837 per month. My ex-husband's Social Security has been reduced by WEP due to his federal pension. With the WEP repeal passing, he probably won't live to see those increased benefits himself. My question is: when he passes and our daughter starts receiving survivor benefits (at 75% of his PIA), will those survivor benefits include the WEP repeal increase even though he never actually received the higher amount? I'm trying to plan for her future care and every dollar matters for her trust fund. Thanks for any insights from those who understand these complicated rules.
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GalacticGuru
I'm so sorry about your ex-husband's diagnosis. I went through something similar with WEP and a disabled child, but was told different things by different SSA representatives about how survivor benefits would be calculated after death. One told me the WEP would continue to affect survivors benefits and another said it wouldn't! I'm still confused about it honestly.
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Ravi Gupta
•That's exactly what I'm worried about - getting different answers! Did you ever get a definitive answer? I've tried calling SSA three times but keep getting disconnected after waiting 45+ minutes.
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Freya Pedersen
The good news is that under the new WEP repeal laws, your daughter should receive survivor benefits based on the FULL amount without WEP reduction when your ex-husband passes. The WEP repeal legislation specifically addresses survivor benefits. When calculating the benefits for survivors, the WEP reduction is eliminated regardless of whether the worker received the increased amount before death. Your daughter's DAC survivor benefit should be calculated at 75% of his unreduced PIA. However, it's important to make sure her benefits are properly recalculated after his passing. Sometimes these adjustments don't happen automatically, especially with complicated situations involving WEP and disabled adult children.
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Ravi Gupta
•Thank you SO much for this clear explanation! So even though he might not live to see the WEP repeal benefit himself, she'll still get the higher survivor amount based on his unreduced PIA? That's a huge relief.
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Omar Fawaz
The previous commenter is mostly correct, but there's a phase-in period with the WEP repeal that you need to be aware of. The repeal doesn't happen all at once - it's being phased in gradually over several years. So the survivors benefits will be calculated based on whatever phase of the WEP repeal is in effect when your ex-husband passes away. It won't necessarily be the FULL unreduced amount immediately.
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Chloe Anderson
•My husband went thru this last year with WEP! The ssa rep told me that with this new repeal it wud go up like $200 per month for survivors immediately, not phased in. But maybe the full repeal amount is phased? The whole WEP thing is so confusing!
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Diego Vargas
MY DAUGHTER WENT THREW THIS EXACT THING!!! her dad died with wep and she got 75% of his FULL benefit without the WEP reduction because SS doesn't apply WEP to survivor benifits even BEFORE the repeal!!!! Call them right away so you know for sure, but that's been the law for years. Ive been dealing with SSI and SSDI for 15 years and that's how it works
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Ravi Gupta
•Wait, really? So this might not even be connected to the WEP repeal? I'm so confused now, but it would be amazing if she'd get the full 75% regardless. Did your daughter have to file anything special to make sure she got the right amount?
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Omar Fawaz
•This is partly correct. WEP has always affected survivor benefits less severely than it affected the worker's own benefits. But it DID still reduce survivor benefits in many cases, just by a smaller percentage. The new legislation removes even that smaller reduction.
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Anastasia Fedorov
I've been trying to call Social Security for weeks about my own DAC situation and keep getting the "all representatives are busy" message. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me through to an agent in under 10 minutes - they have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The agent I spoke with confirmed that survivor benefits are no longer affected by WEP with the new legislation, and your daughter should get the full 75% of your ex's unreduced benefit. Worth calling to confirm for your specific situation though.
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StarStrider
•I used that service too when dealing with my dad's benefits! Saved hours of frustration. The important thing is to ask specifically for a "technical expert" when you get through, since regular representatives sometimes give incorrect information about complicated situations like WEP and DAC benefits.
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Ravi Gupta
•Thanks for this tip! I'll definitely try this service tomorrow. I've been so frustrated trying to get through to someone who actually knows the specifics of this situation.
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Chloe Anderson
Hate to say it but even if the law says she shud get the higher amount doesnt mean SSA will do it right! My friends mom had to fight for MONTHS to get the right amount for her disabled brother after there dad died. You might need to appeal whatever they decide if it doesnt look right. Keep all paperwork!!!!!
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Ravi Gupta
•That's my biggest fear - that she'll get the wrong amount and I'll have to fight the system during an already difficult time. I'll definitely keep detailed records.
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Freya Pedersen
To clear up some confusion in this thread: The 2025 WEP repeal legislation specifically addresses both primary benefits and survivor benefits. Before this legislation, WEP DID affect survivors, just with a different calculation method. Under the new law: 1. Your ex-husband's primary benefit will increase based on the phase-in schedule if he lives long enough to see it 2. When calculating survivor benefits after his death, the full WEP elimination will apply to your daughter's benefits, regardless of where in the phase-in period he passes away 3. Your daughter's DAC benefit will be 75% of his PIA without the WEP reduction Make sure to notify SSA promptly after his passing and specifically mention that his record was affected by WEP and that your daughter is receiving DAC benefits.
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Ravi Gupta
•Thank you for this detailed breakdown. It's helpful to understand the exact steps. I'll make sure to specifically mention both the WEP situation and her DAC status when I notify SSA after his passing.
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StarStrider
One critical thing to watch for: When your ex passes and your daughter switches to survivor benefits, SSA may initially calculate the benefit incorrectly. Be prepared to appeal if the amount seems wrong. Request a detailed explanation of the calculation in writing. The formula they should use is 75% of his PIA without WEP reduction. Also, ensure your daughter's Medicare premiums (if applicable) are correctly adjusted with the benefit change. And remember that any month-of-death payment would go to whoever was living with him, not automatically to your daughter.
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Ravi Gupta
•These are excellent points I hadn't considered. She does have Medicare, so I'll watch for those premium adjustments too. He lives alone currently, so I'll need to figure out the month-of-death payment situation as well. Thank you!
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