Collecting Social Security survivor benefits before FRA while working full-time - will it affect my retirement?
My heart is still heavy after losing my wife in February 2025. She was 68 and had been collecting her Social Security retirement since age 65. I'm currently 60 years old (about 2.5 years away from my FRA) and working a full-time job that pays around $72,000 annually. I'm planning to continue working until I reach my full retirement age. I've been trying to make sense of my financial situation and keep getting conflicting information about survivor benefits. Could someone please help me understand: 1) Am I eligible to receive survivor benefits now, while still working? 2) If eligible, would I receive the full amount of her benefit or some reduced percentage? 3) Since I'm earning well above the annual limit, how severely would my survivor benefits be reduced due to the earnings test? 4) If I take survivor benefits now, can I still switch to my own retirement benefit at FRA if mine would be higher? I've tried calling the SSA office three times but can't get through to anyone. Feeling overwhelmed with all the paperwork and decisions while still grieving. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Jackie Martinez
First, I'm very sorry for your loss. Yes, you are eligible for survivor benefits as early as age 60, but there are a few important things to know: 1) Since you're taking benefits before your FRA, they'll be permanently reduced - roughly 71.5% of your wife's full benefit amount. 2) The earnings test will definitely impact you while working. In 2025, for every $2 you earn above $23,160, SSA will withhold $1 in benefits. With your salary, most or all of your survivor benefits would be withheld until you reach FRA. 3) The GOOD NEWS: Even if you take reduced survivor benefits now, you can still switch to your own retirement benefit at FRA or later if yours would be higher. This is different from regular retirement benefits! 4) Any benefits withheld due to the earnings test will result in a recalculation and slight increase when you reach FRA. My recommendation? Apply for the survivor benefits anyway, even though they'll be mostly withheld due to your earnings. You'll get some money during months you might earn less, and then at FRA, you can switch strategies.
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Monique Byrd
•Thank you for the detailed explanation. So even if most of my benefits would be withheld due to my income, it still makes sense to apply now? I didn't realize I'd still be able to switch to my own benefit later - that's a relief. Is there any downside to applying for survivor benefits now if they're going to be mostly withheld anyway?
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Lia Quinn
Im so sorry about your wife. the SSA makes this stuff SO COMPLICATED! I went through this last year after my husband died. The earnings limit is a JOKE!! I was working and making decent money and they took away almost ALL of my survivors benefit!!! I had to keep working of course but it felt like I was being punished for it. Finally got through to someone after calling for WEEKS and they just said thats how the system works. So frustrating!!!
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Monique Byrd
•Sorry you had to deal with that frustration on top of your loss. Did you eventually get any of your benefits, or were they all withheld? I'm wondering if it's even worth the hassle of applying if I won't see any money until FRA.
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Haley Stokes
Just wanted to add that the funeral home actually helped me with some of this paperwork when my spouse passed. They might have resources to help you navigate this, too. I found going in person to the SSA office was actually faster than trying to call, even though I had to take a day off work.
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Asher Levin
•Going in person is good advice but not every office lets you in without an appointment now. I tried that route last month and security turned me away saying I needed to call first for an appointment. But then you can't get through on the phone! It's a terrible system.
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Serene Snow
I want to clarify something important: If you apply for survivor benefits before your FRA while working, you'll be subject to both the early claiming reduction AND the earnings test reduction. However, there's a strategy worth considering. Since survivor benefits are different from retirement benefits, you have flexibility. You could: 1. Apply for reduced survivor benefits now (even if mostly withheld due to earnings) 2. At your FRA, switch to either your own retirement benefit OR keep the survivor benefit, whichever is higher This strategy preserves your options. Even with the earnings test withholding most benefits now, any month your earnings are lower, you might receive some payment. And once you reach FRA, the earnings test disappears completely. Also, if you decide to take your own retirement benefit later (after FRA), you can earn delayed retirement credits of 8% per year until age 70, while collecting survivor benefits from FRA until then. The SSA publication that explains this in detail is "Survivors Benefits" (No. 05-10084).
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Monique Byrd
•Thank you! If I'm understanding correctly, I could potentially: 1. Apply for reduced survivor benefits now (getting little/nothing due to earnings test) 2. At FRA, either keep the survivor benefit OR switch to my retirement benefit 3. Or even delay my own retirement benefit until 70 while collecting the survivor benefit from FRA to 70 That seems like the best approach to maximize benefits long-term. Is there any disadvantage to applying for survivor benefits now even if they'll be withheld?
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Issac Nightingale
After trying for WEEKS to get through to SSA about my husband's survivor benefits (similar situation), I finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got through to a real person in 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours or getting disconnected. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU The agent I spoke with confirmed exactly what others are saying here - I could apply for survivors benefits early, even though working would mean most would be withheld. Then at FRA I could choose between continuing survivors benefits or switching to my own retirement. It was such a relief to finally talk to someone who could answer my specific questions! Might be worth checking out if you're still trying to get official answers.
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Romeo Barrett
•Did that service actually work? I'm always skeptical of these things that claim to get you through to government agencies. Does it cost money?
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Issac Nightingale
•Yes, it definitely worked for me! There is a service fee, but after spending weeks trying to get through and taking time off work for failed attempts, it was worth it for me. I got connected with an actual SSA agent who helped answer all my questions about survivor benefits.
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Asher Levin
My condolences for your loss. When my wife passed I was so confused about all this stuff too!! I ended up taking the survivors benefit early even though I was still working. SSA withheld almost everything because of the earnings test, but what nobody told me was that I'd get some small payments during months when I earned less (like when I took some unpaid time off). So even though I didn't get much until FRA, it wasn't zero either. Just something to consider.
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Monique Byrd
•That's helpful to know. I typically take a few weeks of unpaid leave each year to visit my kids, so I might at least get some payments during those months.
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Jackie Martinez
Based on your situation, here's what I would recommend: 1. Apply for survivor benefits now even though they'll be reduced and mostly withheld 2. Continue working until your FRA (this won't affect your future options) 3. At FRA, evaluate whether to keep the survivor benefit or switch to your own retirement benefit 4. If your own benefit would be higher with delayed credits, consider switching to your own benefit at age 70 This strategy preserves maximum flexibility. And remember - after FRA, there's no earnings test, so you can work and collect full benefits. One thing to note: you mentioned being 2.5 years from FRA, which means your FRA is likely 67. The survivor FRA might be slightly different (66 or 66.5), so double-check that specific detail when you apply.
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Monique Byrd
•Thank you so much for this clear strategy. I'll definitely apply for the survivor benefits now to keep my options open, even if most is withheld. You're right about checking my exact FRA - I need to confirm that. I really appreciate everyone's help as I navigate all this during such a difficult time.
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