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Should I claim Social Security survivor benefits at 67 while working full-time then switch at 70?

I lost my wife to cancer in 2018 when she was only 49. It's been a challenging journey, but I'm finally getting my finances in order. I'm currently 60 years old and working full-time with decent income. My Full Retirement Age is 67, and ideally I'd like to wait until 70 to maximize my own SS retirement benefits. I've been reading about survivor benefits but finding the rules confusing. Is it possible for me to: 1. Continue working full-time through age 70 2. Apply for survivor benefits when I reach my FRA at 67 (when the earnings test no longer applies) 3. Then switch to my own retirement benefit at 70 if mine would be higher? I also receive about $550/month from her teacher's pension. Does this pension affect my survivor benefit amount through GPO? I've heard conflicting information about how survivor benefits work with pensions. The SSA website is so confusing and every time I call, I get disconnected or told different things. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

StarSailor

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sorry for your loss man. my wife passed 2 years ago and the SS stuff is a mess to figure out. i think you can do what youre saying but not sure about the pension part

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Sofia Morales

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Thank you. Sorry for your loss as well. It's frustrating how complicated they make all this, especially when you're dealing with grief on top of it all.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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Yes, your strategy makes perfect sense and is actually optimal in your situation. Since you're past 60, you could technically claim reduced survivor benefits now, but waiting until your FRA at 67 means no earnings test applies, so you can continue working with no reduction. Regarding the teacher's pension: if it's from employment where Social Security taxes WERE NOT paid (common for some state/local government positions), then the Government Pension Offset (GPO) could reduce your survivor benefits by 2/3 of your pension amount. If Social Security taxes WERE paid on the employment that earned the pension, then GPO doesn't apply. At 70, definitely switch to your own retirement benefit if it's higher. Survivor benefits don't grow after your FRA, but your own benefit increases 8% per year from FRA to 70.

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Sofia Morales

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Thank you so much for the detailed explanation! My wife's teaching position did NOT pay into Social Security (it was a state system), so I guess the GPO will apply. So if I understand correctly, they'll reduce my survivor benefit by about $367 (2/3 of $550)? That's still worth claiming at FRA while I continue working, then switching at 70.

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Ava Garcia

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I don't think that's right about the GPO!!! The GPO only applies if YOU receive a pension from non-covered work. If your WIFE had the pension from non-covered work, then her benefit would have been reduced by WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision), but YOUR survivor benefit isn't affected by GPO unless YOU have a non-covered pension. The rules are super confusing but this is one thing I'm pretty sure about because I went through this exact situation with my father-in-law!!!

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Dmitry Ivanov

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You're partially right, but it's more complex. GPO can indeed affect survivor benefits when the survivor receives a pension based on work not covered by Social Security. However, in this case, the pension is his deceased wife's pension that he's receiving as a survivor benefit from her employer, not his own pension. So the question becomes whether this particular type of survivor pension triggers GPO. This is exactly why getting an official determination from SSA is so important in these cases.

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Miguel Silva

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Your strategy is excellent. I'd like to clarify a few points: 1. You can absolutely claim survivor benefits at your FRA (67) with no earnings test while continuing to work. 2. About the pension: If the $550 is being paid to you as a survivor pension from your wife's employment where she didn't pay Social Security taxes, this is generally NOT subject to GPO for your Social Security survivor benefits. GPO typically applies when YOU earned a pension from non-covered work. 3. At 70, you should definitely switch to your own retirement benefit if it's higher. Remember that survivor benefits don't increase after your FRA, but your own retirement benefit grows 8% annually until 70. 4. One thing to verify: Make sure you're eligible for survivor benefits based on your wife's Social Security record (she needs to have earned enough credits, generally 40). I recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA to get an official calculation of both benefit amounts.

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Sofia Morales

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Thank you for this clear explanation! My wife worked enough to qualify for Social Security on her own (about 25 years) before switching to the teaching job where she didn't pay into SS for the last 8 years. I'll definitely make an appointment to get exact numbers - that's really helpful advice.

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Zainab Ismail

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I went through something similar when my husband died. Try calling SSA at 7:30am exactly when they open - thats the only time I could get through without being on hold for 2+ hours and then getting disconnected!!! So frustrating. Also be prepared they will ask for death certificate and marriage certificate when you apply just FYI

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Sofia Morales

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Thank you for the tip! I've tried calling a few times but always end up frustrated. I'll try right when they open.

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Connor O'Neill

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The most important thing is to actually RUN THE NUMBERS. My husband passed in 2016 and I thought for sure his benefit would be higher than mine. Turns out I was wrong! I earned more over my lifetime than I realized. Don't make assumptions - get the exact calculation from SSA for both your own benefit at 70 AND what the survivor benefit would be. Also consider that taking survivor benefits from 67-70 while working will mean you owe taxes on 85% of those benefits if your income is high enough. Just something else to consider in your planning.

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Sofia Morales

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That's a great point about running the actual numbers. I hadn't thought about the tax implications either. I'll definitely look into that aspect as well.

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StarSailor

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i forgot to say make sure u keep ALL paperwork they send u. my sister threw away what looked like junk mail but was actually important SS stuff & it was a huge mess to fix

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Sofia Morales

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Good advice! I'll be extra careful with any mail from SSA.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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One final consideration: Double-check when your FRA actually is for survivor benefits. For retirement benefits, FRA for someone born in 1962 is 67. But for survivor benefits, the FRA can be different - it could be 66 and 10 months. This small difference matters for planning purposes if you want to completely avoid the earnings test.

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Sofia Morales

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I had no idea the FRAs could be different for different benefits! That's exactly the kind of detail I would have missed. Thank you for pointing this out - I'll definitely verify this.

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