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When can I claim maximum survivor benefits if my husband died at 70? FRA confusion

I lost my husband about 3 months ago - he was 70 and already collecting his retirement benefits. I'm currently 63 and receiving my own SS retirement (I took it early at 62). I want to maximize my survivor benefits by waiting until I can get the full amount, but I'm confused about exactly when that would be. My full retirement age (FRA) is 67 years and 2 months according to SSA, but someone at my grief support group mentioned I could get 100% of survivor benefits at 66 years and 8 months instead? Is this correct or am I misunderstanding something? I can't afford to leave money on the table, but waiting those extra 6 months is significant for my budget planning. Has anyone dealt with this specific survivor benefit timing issue?

Keisha Williams

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I'm very sorry for your loss. To answer your question directly: survivor benefits have a different full retirement age rule than regular retirement benefits. You're right to be confused as this trips up many people! For survivor benefits only, you can receive the FULL amount (100% of what your husband was receiving) at your FRA for survivor benefits, which is indeed a few months earlier than your regular FRA. So if your regular FRA is 67 years and 2 months, your survivor FRA is likely around 66 years and 8 months, just as you heard. This is one of those quirks in the Social Security system that isn't well publicized. I'd recommend calling SSA directly to confirm the exact date for your specific situation, as they can look at your record and tell you precisely.

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Yara Nassar

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Thank you so much for confirming! I've been stressing about this for weeks. Do you happen to know WHY they have different FRAs for different benefits? It seems needlessly complicated.

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Paolo Ricci

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OK i went thru this exact thing last year when my wife died. IT IS SO CONFUSING!!!! The FRA for survivors is dfferent than regular retirement FRA and nobody bothers to TELL you that!!! I spent 3 months thinking one thing only to find out totaly different rules apply. The best thing is call SSA directly and MAKE THEM tell you the exact date you can file for 100% survivor benefits, get the persons name to, because sometimes they give wrong info!!

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Keisha Williams

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You're absolutely right about getting the SSA rep's name and employee ID. Always good to document who you spoke with in case there are discrepancies later.

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Amina Toure

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So sorry about your husband. When my mom was in your situation, she just went to the local office and they helped her figure it all out. Much easier than trying to understand all these complicated rules on your own.

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Yara Nassar

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Thanks for your condolences. I tried going to my local office last week but the wait was over 3 hours and I had to leave for a doctor's appointment. Trying to figure this out before I go back.

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The confusion is understandable, but I can confirm the information you received is correct. For survivor benefits, the FRA schedule is different than for retirement benefits. Here's the specific breakdown: If you were born in 1956-1957 (which seems likely given your FRA of 67y2m), your survivor benefit FRA would be 66y8m. Full retirement age for survivors follows this schedule: - Born 1939 or earlier: 65 - 1940: 65 and 2 months - 1941: 65 and 4 months - 1942: 65 and 6 months - 1943: 65 and 8 months - 1944: 65 and 10 months - 1945-1956: 66 - 1957: 66 and 2 months - 1958: 66 and 4 months - 1959: 66 and 6 months - 1960: 66 and 8 months - 1961: 66 and 10 months - 1962 or later: 67 So yes, you can claim the full survivor benefit 6 months earlier than your regular FRA.

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Yara Nassar

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Thank you so much for this detailed breakdown! I've been searching everywhere for this specific information. This helps tremendously with my planning.

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CosmicCommander

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For what it's worth, I went through this last year after losing my husband. I spent WEEKS trying to get through to Social Security on the phone - constant busy signals or being disconnected after waiting for hours. I finally tried Claimyr (claimyr.com) after someone in another widow group recommended it. They got me connected to an actual SSA agent in about 20 minutes who confirmed my exact date for full survivor benefits. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU if you're interested. It really helped me get a definitive answer without the endless phone frustration.

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Paolo Ricci

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Is this legit??? The SSA phone system is TERRIBLE so anything that helps would be worth it. I'll check out that video.

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Natasha Volkova

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just wanted to say ur smart to even know about waiting. my sister took her survivors right away at 60 and now regrets it cuz she gets way less than if she had waited. dont know about the exact age tho sorry

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Yara Nassar

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That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid! I know taking it early means a permanent reduction, but waiting until exactly the right month is what I'm trying to figure out.

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Javier Torres

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The whole system is DESIGNED to be confusing so people mess up and get less money!!!! This is why the government websites never explain things clearly. Different FRAs for different benefits is just one more way they try to shortchange seniors. I waited until EXACTLY the right month for my survivors after my husband died and it made a $400/month difference compared to what they initially told me I would get. Don't trust anything they say without double-checking!

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Amina Toure

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That seems a bit extreme. I think it's just complicated because the laws were changed multiple times over decades. But I agree you need to double-check everything!

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Keisha Williams

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One important thing to consider in your situation: Since you're already receiving your own retirement benefits, when you apply for survivor benefits, you'll receive the higher of the two amounts, not both combined. So if your husband's benefit (which would become your survivor benefit at full survivor FRA) is significantly higher than your current reduced retirement benefit, the switch will be worthwhile. This is why timing is so important in your case.

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Yara Nassar

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Yes, I understand that part. My husband's benefit was about $3,250/month while mine is only about $1,450 since I took it early. So waiting until I can get 100% of his is definitely worth it for me financially. Just trying to pinpoint exactly when that would be!

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Paolo Ricci

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Has anyone noticed how they changed the survivor rules lately?? My friend who just applied got different info than I did 2 years ago. The whole system changes constantly!

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There haven't been any legislative changes to survivor benefit rules recently. What your friend might be experiencing is different advice based on their specific situation or perhaps misinformation from an SSA representative. This happens more often than it should, unfortunately.

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Natasha Volkova

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good luck with everything... losing a spouse is so hard... the benefits stuff is just extra stress nobody needs

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Yara Nassar

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Thank you. You're right - dealing with all this paperwork and calculations while grieving is overwhelming.

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