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Just wanted to add something important that might affect your sister - if she's working at all while on SSDI (even part-time under the SGA limits), she should be aware that the earnings test for retirement benefits works differently than SSDI work rules. Once she converts to retirement benefits at her FRA (67 for someone born in 1960), there's no limit on how much she can earn from work. But if she decides to take early retirement before her FRA, different earnings limits would apply. Since she's only turning 65 this year and her FRA is 67, she'll continue on SSDI for two more years with the same work restrictions until the automatic conversion happens.
That's a really good point about the earnings rules! I'm new to understanding all this but that seems like an important distinction. So if someone on SSDI is doing any work under the substantial gainful activity limits, they'd actually have MORE freedom to work once they convert to retirement benefits at their FRA? That could be a silver lining for people who want to continue working part-time in their later years. Thanks for explaining that - I never would have thought about the difference between SSDI work rules and retirement benefit work rules!
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm actually in a similar situation with my mom who's been on SSDI for 6 years and is turning 64 next month. Reading through all these responses, I'm realizing I need to figure out her exact FRA since it sounds like the conversion won't happen at 65 like I assumed. One question I haven't seen addressed - does SSA send any kind of annual statement or summary to SSDI recipients like they do for people who haven't filed for benefits yet? My mom used to get those statements in the mail before she went on disability, but I don't think she's gotten one since. Would be helpful to have that information to plan ahead for the conversion.
Great question about the annual statements! SSDI recipients should still be able to access their Social Security Statement through their my Social Security account online at ssa.gov. The paper statements might have stopped automatically, but you can view and print them online anytime. The statement will show her work history, estimated benefits, and most importantly for your situation - her exact Full Retirement Age. If your mom doesn't have a my Social Security account set up yet, it's really worth creating one. She can also request a paper statement by calling SSA if she prefers that, though as others mentioned, getting through by phone can be challenging. The online account also lets you check benefit payment history and any updates from SSA, which could be helpful for tracking the transition when her time comes.
I'm in a similar situation - turned 62 last month and dealing with reduced hours at work due to company cutbacks. One thing that helped me was creating a spreadsheet comparing different scenarios. For your situation with the knees and physical demands, have you looked into whether you might qualify for disability benefits? Sometimes that can be a bridge until you reach FRA, and disability converts to regular retirement at your full retirement age without the early retirement reduction. Also, regarding the golf course work idea - that sounds perfect for staying under the earnings limit while keeping active. Golf courses often need seasonal help and understand retirees' schedules. Quick tip: You can create a my.ssa.gov account to see your exact benefit estimates at different claiming ages. Much more accurate than the general calculators, and it's free directly from SSA. The asset protection piece is complex, but one simple step is making sure both you and your wife understand what assets are exempt in your state. Primary residence often has some protection, and retirement accounts have different rules than regular savings.
Great point about checking disability benefits first! I hadn't really considered that as an option, but with my knee issues and the physical demands of warehouse work, it might be worth exploring. Do you know if applying for disability affects your ability to claim regular retirement benefits later if the disability claim gets denied? The my.ssa.gov account tip is really helpful too - I'll set that up this week to get the exact numbers for my situation. And you're right about the golf course work being ideal for staying under that earnings limit. I've actually been thinking about that local municipal course - they're always looking for help during busy season and it would be way easier on my joints than standing on concrete all day. Thanks for the practical advice!
As someone who went through this decision recently, I'd suggest getting your exact benefit calculations from my.ssa.gov before deciding. The difference between $1,850 at 62 vs $2,650 at 67 is significant over time, especially with your wife's reduced SS due to WEP. Since your wife has the teacher's pension providing some stability, you might consider a hybrid approach: file for benefits at 62 but continue working part-time at that golf course you mentioned. The earnings limit for 2025 is around $23,880, so you could supplement your reduced SS benefit while keeping busy and easing the physical strain on your knees. For asset protection, definitely consult an elder law attorney sooner rather than later. With $285k home equity and $430k in retirement accounts, you have assets worth protecting. The 5-year lookback clock starts ticking from when you set up certain trusts, not when you need care. One thing to consider: if you're the higher earner, your claiming decision affects your wife's potential survivor benefits. Since she's dealing with WEP reducing her own SS, your survivor benefit could be crucial for her financial security later. The golf course job sounds perfect - outdoor work, less physical stress, and likely seasonal which gives you flexibility. Much better than those warehouse concrete floors!
This is really helpful analysis, thank you! I like the hybrid approach idea - taking benefits at 62 but supplementing with part-time work. The golf course job would definitely be easier on my body than warehouse work, and staying under that $23,880 limit seems very doable with seasonal/part-time hours. You make a good point about the survivor benefits for my wife. With her SS being hit by WEP, she's only looking at maybe $400-500/month from Social Security when she retires. If something happens to me, that survivor benefit based on my earnings record could make a huge difference for her financial security. I'm definitely going to set up that my.ssa.gov account this week to get the exact numbers, and start looking into elder law attorneys in our area. Better to get that 5-year clock started sooner rather than later. The $3,500 cost someone mentioned earlier seems reasonable considering what we could potentially protect. Thanks for laying out the decision factors so clearly - it's helping me think through this more systematically instead of just focusing on whether to take benefits early or not.
As someone who just went through this process myself (applied in November for February start), I can completely relate to that anxiety! The waiting is the worst part. I had the exact same two-bar situation for what felt like forever, and then suddenly around mid-January the third bar filled and I got my award letter within a week. Your timeline is actually really good - applying in December for April gives SSA plenty of time. I've learned that retirement applications are much more straightforward than other types of claims since they mainly just need to verify your work history and age, both of which are already in their system. One tip that helped my peace of mind: set up Informed Delivery with USPS if you haven't already. That way you'll know immediately when your award letter is coming in the mail. The letter will have your exact benefit amount and payment schedule, which really helps with the budget planning you mentioned. Try not to check your account more than once a week - I was obsessively checking daily and it just made the anxiety worse! You're going to be fine.
Thank you so much for this! Your timeline gives me a lot of hope - November to February is very similar to my December to April timeline. I really appreciate the tip about Informed Delivery too, I just signed up for it after reading your comment. You're absolutely right about checking too frequently making the anxiety worse - I think I've been checking daily and it's definitely not helping my stress levels. I'll try to limit myself to once a week like you suggest. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who just went through the exact same process!
I'm going through the exact same thing right now! Applied in early December for April benefits and I've been at two progress bars for weeks. Reading everyone's experiences here is so reassuring - it sounds like this is completely normal timing. What really helped me was when someone mentioned that SSA processes about 6 million retirement applications per year, so they have this process down to a science. The fact that we haven't been contacted for additional documents is actually a really good sign that our applications are straightforward. I've also been reminding myself that they have every incentive to process these on time since delayed payments create more work for them with backpay calculations and customer service calls. Hang in there - sounds like we're both going to be fine!
my aunt got widows benefits even tho she worked and had her own ss. they told her something about FRA and delayed retirement credits? i dont really understand it but maybe theres exceptions?
Your aunt's situation might have been different in a few ways: 1. Her husband may have delayed claiming past his Full Retirement Age (FRA), earning Delayed Retirement Credits that increased his benefit amount above what she was receiving. 2. It's also possible their benefit amounts weren't identical - even a small difference would mean the surviving spouse gets the higher amount. 3. There are special rules if she was claiming spousal benefits rather than her own worker benefit. Without knowing the specific details, it's hard to say exactly why her case was different, but these are the most likely explanations.
Just to add some clarity from someone who recently went through this process with my parents - the timing of when you contact Social Security after a death is important. You need to report the death promptly to avoid overpayments that would need to be returned later. Also, if you're currently receiving spousal benefits instead of your own worker benefits (which can happen if your spouse's benefit was higher), the calculation changes. The surviving spouse would then compare their own worker benefit to 100% of the deceased spouse's benefit and take whichever is higher. In your case with identical amounts, you'd definitely want to verify both of you are receiving your own worker benefits rather than spousal benefits, as this could affect the survivor calculation.
That's really helpful information about timing and reporting the death promptly - I hadn't considered that aspect. Your point about spousal vs worker benefits is interesting too. How can we tell if we're receiving our own worker benefits versus spousal benefits? Is this something that would be clearly indicated on our Social Security statements, or would we need to contact SSA directly to confirm? I want to make sure we understand exactly what type of benefits we're each receiving so we can plan accurately.
Carmen Vega
As a newcomer to this community, I'm amazed at how thorough and helpful everyone has been in explaining Carmen's situation! I'm currently 55 with a spouse who's 8 years older, so while not exactly the same gap, I'm definitely taking notes on all this advice. The thing that really stands out to me is how @Liam Fitzgerald broke down those exact reduction percentages - that makes the financial impact so much clearer than just hearing "you'll get less if you file early." I had no clue about deemed filing either, which seems like a critical piece that could really trip people up if they don't understand it. @GalacticGuru, thanks for sharing that Claimyr tip - I've been putting off calling SSA for months because of the horror stories about wait times. Carmen, it sounds like you've got some great guidance here, and I hope you'll update us on what you decide to do! This thread is going in my bookmarks for future reference.
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Paolo Conti
•Welcome to the community, Carmen! I'm also new here and finding this thread incredibly valuable. It's reassuring to see so many knowledgeable people willing to share their experiences and expertise. The 8-year age gap you mentioned puts you in a similar boat - definitely smart to start learning about this now while you have time to plan. I was also blown away by @Liam Fitzgerald's detailed breakdown of the reduction percentages. Having those specific numbers makes it so much easier to understand the real financial impact of filing early versus waiting. The deemed filing rule was completely news to me too - it seems like one of those critical details that could really catch someone off guard if they don't know about it ahead of time. Thanks for emphasizing how helpful this discussion has been - I'm bookmarking it as well for future reference!
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Aisha Patel
As someone new to this community and Social Security benefits in general, I want to echo what others have said about how incredibly helpful and informative this discussion has been! I'm currently 52 with a spouse who's 7 years older, so Carmen's situation really resonates with me. What I'm finding most valuable is how @Liam Fitzgerald has provided such clear, official guidance with those specific reduction percentages - it makes the decision much more concrete when you can see exactly what filing at each age would mean financially. The deemed filing rule was completely unknown to me before reading this thread, and it seems like such a crucial detail that could really impact someone's strategy if they don't understand it. I'm also grateful to @GalacticGuru for sharing that Claimyr service tip - I've been dreading the thought of trying to get through to SSA by phone, so having an alternative that actually works sounds amazing. Carmen, I hope you'll keep us posted on what you ultimately decide! This whole conversation is going straight into my Social Security planning folder for future reference.
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