After reviewing your complete situation: 1. For the earnings test, you're on the right track using the monthly test in your first year 2. Your strategy of taking reduced widow benefits now and switching to your own at 70 is actually optimal given the benefit amounts you've shared 3. For those vacation payouts, request Form SSA-131 (Employer Report of Special Wage Payments) from your employer to document that those payments were for work performed before your benefits began Keep all documentation showing your retirement date and submit the SSA-131 as soon as possible to avoid any incorrect application of the earnings test.

This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation (planning to file for widow benefits at 62 next year) and had no idea about the monthly earnings test for the first year. A few quick tips from my own research and experience with my late husband's benefits: - When you call SSA, ask to speak with a "claims specialist" rather than just any representative. They tend to be more knowledgeable about complex situations like widow benefits with earnings. - Document EVERYTHING in writing. I keep a log of every SSA interaction with date, time, rep name/ID, and what was discussed. - The Form SSA-131 mentioned by Luca is crucial! My sister had a similar vacation payout issue and that form resolved it completely. @Sean - your benefit strategy sounds smart given those amounts. Just make sure you understand that once you switch to your own benefit at 70, you can't go back to the widow benefit even if yours ends up being lower than expected. Good luck navigating this maze! The SSA system is confusing but this community really helps clarify things.

I'm so sorry for your loss, Zoe. What you're going through is incredibly difficult, and it's completely understandable to feel overwhelmed by these decisions while grieving. I want to add one more practical tip that helped me when I was in a similar situation: consider scheduling your SSA call for a time when you feel most emotionally steady (for me, that was mid-morning), and have a glass of water nearby. The call might take a while, and grief can be physically exhausting. Also, don't hesitate to tell the SSA representative at the start of the call that you recently lost your spouse and may need them to speak slowly or repeat information. Most are very understanding and will take extra care to make sure you understand everything correctly. You've got a solid plan, and this community has given you excellent guidance. You're going to get through this. ❤️

I'm so sorry for your loss, Zoe. Reading your post brought back memories of my own experience navigating this exact situation two years ago. The combination of grief and complex Social Security decisions is overwhelming, but you're asking all the right questions. I want to emphasize something that others have touched on but bears repeating: when you call SSA, be very specific that you want to file for "survivor benefits only" and that you are intentionally delaying your own retirement benefits until age 70. Some representatives may not immediately understand this strategy and might suggest you file for your own benefits if they appear higher on paper right now - but they won't account for the delayed retirement credits you'll earn by waiting until 70. One thing that really helped me was writing down my key points on a notecard before the call: my husband's death date, that I wanted survivor benefits only, and that I planned to switch to my own benefits at 70. When grief brain kicked in during the call, I could just read from my notes. Also, don't feel bad about taking your time during the call or asking them to repeat things. You're dealing with a lot right now, and getting this right is important for your financial future. Take care of yourself. ❤️

As someone new to this community, I'm shocked to read about all these experiences with SSA not implementing the GPO reform properly! I'm a retired state employee myself and had no idea about these recent changes - this thread has been incredibly informative. It's outrageous that federal employees at SSA aren't being trained on their own agency's new rules. The fact that multiple people here have had to make several visits just to get an application accepted is unacceptable. Thank you to everyone sharing specific strategies like asking for Technical Experts and requesting protective filing dates - this practical advice is invaluable for those of us navigating this bureaucratic maze. I'm curious - has anyone tried escalating beyond the local office level? Like contacting SSA's regional offices directly or filing complaints with their Office of Inspector General about the inconsistent implementation? It seems like this is a systemic training issue that needs to be addressed from the top down.

As someone who just joined this community after experiencing my own GPO nightmare, I can't thank everyone enough for sharing these detailed strategies! I'm a retired teacher from Texas and went through the exact same runaround at my local SSA office three weeks ago. What really helped me was printing out the actual text of the Social Security Fairness Act (Public Law 118-29) and highlighting the specific sections about GPO reform. I also found SSA's own Program Operations Manual System (POMS) updates online that reference the changes - having their own internal guidance seemed to carry more weight with the representatives. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice here: if you're getting nowhere with the field office, try calling SSA's national customer service line at 1-800-772-1213 and specifically ask to speak with someone about "GPO reform implementation under Public Law 118-29." I found the phone representatives were sometimes more knowledgeable than local office staff, and they can also help you locate which nearby offices might have better-trained Technical Experts. Stay persistent everyone - we've earned these benefits and shouldn't have to fight this hard for what's rightfully ours under the new law!

Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! To summarize what I've learned: only my work income counts toward the earnings limit (about $22,300 for 2025), NOT my Social Security benefits. And they use the gross amount before deductions. I really appreciate all the clarification - this makes my retirement planning much easier. I'll be sure to report my expected earnings accurately when I apply next year to avoid any surprises.

Just wanted to add one more helpful tip for anyone in a similar situation - keep detailed records of your monthly earnings throughout the year! I learned this the hard way when SSA asked me to verify my income. Having pay stubs organized by month made the process much smoother. Also, if you have any months where you earn significantly more or less (like seasonal work or bonuses), it's worth calling SSA to update your earnings estimate. They're much more understanding if you're proactive about reporting changes rather than them finding out later during their annual review.

I'm so sorry for your family's loss. This is such a difficult time and it's kind of you to help navigate these complicated issues. Based on what others have shared here, it sounds like the most important thing is to report his death to SSA immediately - don't wait even a few days. The payment tomorrow should be legitimate since it's for September when he was alive the whole month, but definitely don't touch that money until you confirm with SSA. One thing I'd add is to keep detailed records of every conversation with SSA - date, time, who you spoke with, and what was discussed. Government agencies can be disorganized and having your own paper trail can save a lot of headaches later. Also consider having a close family member or friend help with some of these calls since dealing with bureaucracy while grieving is overwhelming. Take care of yourselves during this process.

I'm so sorry for your loss. This is incredibly overwhelming to deal with during such a difficult time. From what I understand about SSA procedures, you'll want to report his death within 24-48 hours if possible. The funeral home should handle this automatically, but definitely follow up to confirm they did. The payment hitting tomorrow should be legitimate since SSA pays in arrears - that October 1st payment is actually for September when he was alive the entire month. However, I'd recommend not touching his portion until you get confirmation from SSA that it won't be reclaimed. For your mother-in-law's survivor benefits, she'll likely be eligible for 100% of his $2,750 benefit (instead of her current $1,200) if she's at full retirement age. This is a significant increase that will help her financially. The key is applying for survivor benefits as soon as possible after reporting his death, since there can be limits on retroactive payments. Make sure to gather the documents others mentioned: death certificate, marriage certificate, both SSN cards, and banking info. And definitely keep detailed notes of every interaction with SSA - dates, times, names, reference numbers. The process can be frustrating but the outcome will provide her with much-needed financial stability.