Confused about survivor benefits - should I get higher amount based on husband's age at death (69) vs. his FRA?
I'm completely confused about my survivor benefits calculation after losing my husband last year. He passed away at 69 and never collected Social Security. When I visited the SSA office this week, two different representatives told me I would receive $2,975 per month if I wait until my FRA (which is 66 and 10 months). But that doesn't make sense to me! Shouldn't I get the higher amount based on what my husband would have received at 69 when he died (with delayed retirement credits)? His benefit would have been significantly higher than at his FRA (66). My own benefit is much lower, so I definitely want to maximize the survivor benefit. Does anyone know if what the SSA reps told me is correct or if they're making a mistake? I don't want to leave money on the table for the rest of my life!
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NightOwl42
You're absolutely correct to question this. As a survivor, you're entitled to the HIGHER of: 1) What your husband was receiving when he died (or would have received if he hadn't claimed yet), or 2) 82.5% of your husband's PIA if you claim at age 60. Since your husband delayed claiming until 69, his benefit would have included delayed retirement credits (DRCs) - approximately 8% per year beyond his FRA. Those representatives were likely giving you the amount based on your husband's PIA at his FRA, not including his DRCs up to age 69. I'd definitely go back and specifically ask about the delayed retirement credits he earned between 66-69. Those credits should be included in your survivor benefit calculation.
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Dylan Hughes
•Thank you so much for confirming my suspicions! I KNEW something wasn't right. I'll definitely go back and specifically ask about the delayed retirement credits. I just want to be prepared - do you know approximately how much higher the benefit should be with those delayed credits included? I'm trying to figure out if I'm missing out on hundreds of dollars every month.
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Sofia Rodriguez
the same thing happened to me!! the first SSA person i talked to gave me a lower amount and didnt include my husbands delayed credits. it was only when i went back the third time and got someone who really knew the survivor rules that i got the right amount. bring your husbands death certificate and his social security statement if you have it.
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Dylan Hughes
•Thanks for sharing your experience. It's both comforting and frustrating to know I'm not the only one! I'll definitely bring his death certificate again and I think I have his last SS statement somewhere. Did you have to specifically mention "delayed retirement credits" to get them to calculate it correctly?
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Dmitry Ivanov
This is really important!!! My mom had almost the exact same situation and the SS office made a HUGE mistake that cost her almost $400 a month until she got it fixed! The delayed retirement credits your husband earned from 66 to 69 absolutely should be factored into your survivor benefits. Don't let them tell you otherwise!
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Ava Thompson
•This happens way too often! The DRCs your husband earned between 66-69 should increase your survivor benefit by approximately 24-32% above his FRA amount (depending on his exact birth year). So if they're quoting $2,975 at FRA without DRCs, your correct amount could be closer to $3,700-$3,900. That's a significant difference! Make sure you specifically ask about Form SSA-1724 (Benefit Recalculation) and request that they show you the calculation including DRCs. If you continue having trouble, you might need to request a formal reconsideration.
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Miguel Herrera
I went through this last yr... u need to talk to a Technical Expert at SSA not just regular rep. Ask specifically for one when u call or visit office. They know the complicated stuff like DRCs for survivors. good luck!!
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Zainab Ali
You're running into a common confusion point with survivor benefits. Here's what's happening: You absolutely should receive the higher amount including your husband's delayed retirement credits from age 66 to 69. That's approximately 24-32% more than his FRA amount (depending on his birth year). However, there are two important factors to consider: 1. If you claim survivor benefits before your own FRA (66+10mo), you'll face a reduction based on your age. 2. If you're receiving your own benefits already, the survivor benefit will be reduced by that amount. Based on what you've described, it sounds like the SSA representatives are either not accounting for your husband's delayed retirement credits or they're applying some reduction incorrectly. I would recommend asking to speak with a Technical Expert who specializes in survivor benefits. Be very specific about your husband's age at death (69) and that he had earned delayed retirement credits by waiting past his FRA.
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Dylan Hughes
•Thank you for the detailed explanation! I'm not claiming early (planning to wait until my FRA) and I haven't started my own benefits yet, so neither of those reductions should apply. I'll definitely ask for a Technical Expert next time. This is so frustrating - I feel like I have to become an expert myself just to get what I'm entitled to.
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Connor Murphy
I actually had this exact issue when my husband passed. The regular SSA representatives kept giving me the wrong information about my survivor benefits. I tried calling for weeks and either couldn't get through or got different answers every time. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an SSA agent in just 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU When I finally got through, I specifically asked for a Technical Expert who could handle survivor benefits with delayed retirement credits. That made all the difference - they recalculated my benefit correctly and I ended up getting about $650 more per month than what I was initially told! Plus they gave me back pay for the months they had been underpaying me.
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Dylan Hughes
•Thank you for the suggestion! I've been going in person because the phone waits are terrible, but maybe I'll try this service. $650 more per month is a HUGE difference - that's exactly what I'm worried about missing out on. I'm glad you were able to get it fixed AND get backpay!
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Dmitry Ivanov
Just wanted to add that my neighbor had EXACT same problem!!! The SSA people kept telling her the wrong amount until she brought in PROOF that her husband died after FRA and hadn't claimed SS yet. then they finally fixed it. So frustrating!!!!
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Zainab Ali
One more important point I want to clarify: The survivor benefit is based on what your husband would have received at the time of his death, including any delayed retirement credits. Since he passed at 69 (3 years after his FRA), his benefit would include approximately 24% in delayed retirement credits (8% per year for 3 years). To calculate: If the SSA is telling you the amount at his FRA would be $2,975, then with delayed retirement credits, your survivor benefit should be approximately $3,689 (2,975 × 1.24). The difference is over $700 per month - or more than $8,400 per year - for the rest of your life. This is absolutely worth pursuing. When you go back, ask specifically for a Technical Expert and use these precise terms: "I need a calculation of my survivor benefit that includes my deceased husband's delayed retirement credits from age 66 to 69."
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Dylan Hughes
•Thank you for doing that calculation! That's exactly what I needed to know. $700+ per month difference is life-changing for me. I'm definitely going back with this specific wording. I'll update once I get it resolved.
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Ava Thompson
Based on everyone's advice, here's what I recommend you do: 1. Make an appointment with your local SSA office (don't just walk in) 2. Ask specifically for a Technical Expert who specializes in survivor benefits 3. Bring your husband's death certificate, his Social Security statement if you have it, and your marriage certificate 4. Use this specific language: "I need a recalculation of my survivor benefits that includes the delayed retirement credits my husband earned between his FRA at 66 and his death at 69" 5. Request a written explanation of the calculation they provide If you continue to face resistance, you have the right to file for a reconsideration or even appeal the decision. But hopefully, speaking with the right specialist will resolve this without further steps.
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Dylan Hughes
•Thank you for these clear steps! I'll follow them exactly. I've already called and made an appointment for next Tuesday. I'm bringing all the documents you mentioned plus I found my husband's last Social Security statement from right before he passed, which shows the increased amount with his delayed credits. Fingers crossed this gets resolved!
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